Prado/Prada

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JT$ on his review pod thinks it was a lost opportunity Prado did not ride press day practice at Lakewood and perhaps his focus on SX this year put him behind on his outdoor prep or focus.  

He's good but still has some more upside is possible.

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Prado is probably too risk averse to beat Jett or Lucas. Until/unless he gets over his issue riding in traffic he is going to be the most start dependent rider with elite speed in the field. 

It seems like a done deal that the ktm 450 team will be Tomac, Prado, and coenen next year. One of the non Austrian riders (Hunter?) said they would see Coenen here next year. 

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As a factory rider he should have. Watch the GP's you'll see first hand. 

I go to the GPs quite often so I do see first hand.. I don’t think he’s woeful at coming through the pack. There’s just a...

I go to the GPs quite often so I do see first hand.. I don’t think he’s woeful at coming through the pack. There’s just a lot of good riders..

FGR01 wrote:

There is no “pack” in the GP’s.  MX2 gates have about 15 total riders.  Sascha was probably shocked to see 40 riders on a gate.  

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Tumic wrote:

What’s up with JS calling him Prada all the time? 

I don't think he received a great education, he messes a lot of words and sayings up. Even so, he's light years better than RC. It's like he gets lazy at the end of words a lot. 

On the flip side, it sounds like people are starting to get francesco right, instead of francisco.

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aees wrote:
Where do you get that from? He was catching Deegs late in the moto before his bike blew up. You don't do that with poor stamina...

Where do you get that from? He was catching Deegs late in the moto before his bike blew up. You don't do that with poor stamina. Running 2.07 with 4 laps to go when his fastest was 2.05. 

It will be same as in SX. If a win or good starts put him in position to do good, he will go for it. Otherwise not risk much. 

He is 25 to 30 seconds back because he backs it down to make the fukk moto at a top 5 speed. He has a lot more speed you can see it on the first few laps then his body position changes and he backs it down. Watch him next week you can clearly see him do it. 

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As a factory rider he should have. Watch the GP's you'll see first hand. 

I go to the GPs quite often so I do see first hand.. I don’t think he’s woeful at coming through the pack. There’s just a...

I go to the GPs quite often so I do see first hand.. I don’t think he’s woeful at coming through the pack. There’s just a lot of good riders..

FGR01 wrote:

There is no “pack” in the GP’s.  MX2 gates have about 15 total riders.  Sascha was probably shocked to see 40 riders on a gate.  

AMA Nationals have more lappers just making up the gates from 20th onwards.  GP's have fewer on the gate but the talent is deeper through the top ten.

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Zoom wrote:

Its the bike...

Yeah - last years bike. Prado lost a year while the Lawrence’s and Deegs took something good and made it better. I hope Sexton gets better after the Thunder Valley crash and has his best days ahead on whatever brand he’s on. I just can’t see Sexton staying or what team would take him. 

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crusty_xx wrote:
He's been underwhelming to say the least. And I don't mean 2025. I've been defending the guy the whole time but he's not exactly lighting the...

He's been underwhelming to say the least. And I don't mean 2025. I've been defending the guy the whole time but he's not exactly lighting the world on fire right now. Not sure what it is. He's better than that. Lucas coming over and smoking him straight up kind of proves that we're not seeing anywhere close to 2024 Prado. What Lucas showed yesterday is exactly what everyone expected from Prado. Not necessarily beat Jett because that's nearly impossible. But at least be close. And beat the rest. And definitely beat the rookie that's still figuring out the 450.

At this point I dont think he wins a moto this year. I would have said Southwick but if Lucas is there I'd bet on him.

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Underwhelming? I’d say Prado’s been just about anything, but that… We all know that he struggled on the Kawasaki in 2024/2025 having never being comfortable on...

Underwhelming? I’d say Prado’s been just about anything, but that… We all know that he struggled on the Kawasaki in 2024/2025 having never being comfortable on the bike. But, since switching back to KTM he’s managed to get four top 5’s in Supercross and already has one podium in Motocross this season. Additionally, his Starts have tremendously improved since being back on the Orange bike. To get these results, in what has essentially been his first full-year racing Supercross (Prado only raced four preview races in 2024 and missed 14 races in 2025 due to injury) is pretty damn impressive to me.

You may be onto something when you mention the starts. Looking back at the first three rounds of 2025, he was starting around 8th-12th. Looking at how he handles a start like that now is interesting when thinking about his results last year. 

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Tumic wrote:

What’s up with JS calling him Prada all the time? 

FroDiddy wrote:

He's actually saying Prado, he's just not enunciating his O.

It's like people who say "watta" instead of water.

No he's NOT...he legit CANNOT pronounce it correctly.  He does fine with Jorge...he just can't understand the difference between Prado and Prada...and it's f'n irritating.   

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Tumic wrote:

What’s up with JS calling him Prada all the time? 

FroDiddy wrote:

He's actually saying Prado, he's just not enunciating his O.

It's like people who say "watta" instead of water.

Kenv wrote:

No he's NOT...he legit CANNOT pronounce it correctly.  He does fine with Jorge...he just can't understand the difference between Prado and Prada...and it's f'n irritating.   

Heard James last week say, "Prada, I mean Prado". He is just being very lazy. Easier for him to say Prada I guess. Maybe Prado needs to text JS7 and ask if he could call him by his actual name. You think Weege would correct him.

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Pretty sure he said prada every time today.  My wife and I were cracking up.  

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Zoom wrote:

Its the bike...

KurtJ99 wrote:
Yeah - last years bike. Prado lost a year while the Lawrence’s and Deegs took something good and made it better. I hope Sexton gets better...

Yeah - last years bike. Prado lost a year while the Lawrence’s and Deegs took something good and made it better. I hope Sexton gets better after the Thunder Valley crash and has his best days ahead on whatever brand he’s on. I just can’t see Sexton staying or what team would take him. 

You bring up a good point. The amount of time spent in recovering from a setback is a big contributor the speed of his progression. Jett's history with setbacks brings some context to that. Since that year that Prado lost, Jett came from a serious injury and got back to winning form in a surprisingly quick time. 

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aees wrote:
Where do you get that from? He was catching Deegs late in the moto before his bike blew up. You don't do that with poor stamina...

Where do you get that from? He was catching Deegs late in the moto before his bike blew up. You don't do that with poor stamina. Running 2.07 with 4 laps to go when his fastest was 2.05. 

It will be same as in SX. If a win or good starts put him in position to do good, he will go for it. Otherwise not risk much. 

Mit12 wrote:
He is 25 to 30 seconds back because he backs it down to make the fukk moto at a top 5 speed. He has a lot...

He is 25 to 30 seconds back because he backs it down to make the fukk moto at a top 5 speed. He has a lot more speed you can see it on the first few laps then his body position changes and he backs it down. Watch him next week you can clearly see him do it. 

I learned years ago when wrenching USGP’s that is a pretty Common euro endurance style of putting in a couple laps at 85-95% full speed then a few laps backed down to 75-80 % where USA style has always been more like a 95-100% SX sprint race.

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crusty_xx wrote:
He's been underwhelming to say the least. And I don't mean 2025. I've been defending the guy the whole time but he's not exactly lighting the...

He's been underwhelming to say the least. And I don't mean 2025. I've been defending the guy the whole time but he's not exactly lighting the world on fire right now. Not sure what it is. He's better than that. Lucas coming over and smoking him straight up kind of proves that we're not seeing anywhere close to 2024 Prado. What Lucas showed yesterday is exactly what everyone expected from Prado. Not necessarily beat Jett because that's nearly impossible. But at least be close. And beat the rest. And definitely beat the rookie that's still figuring out the 450.

At this point I dont think he wins a moto this year. I would have said Southwick but if Lucas is there I'd bet on him.

SRF2DRT wrote:
Underwhelming? I’d say Prado’s been just about anything, but that… We all know that he struggled on the Kawasaki in 2024/2025 having never being comfortable on...

Underwhelming? I’d say Prado’s been just about anything, but that… We all know that he struggled on the Kawasaki in 2024/2025 having never being comfortable on the bike. But, since switching back to KTM he’s managed to get four top 5’s in Supercross and already has one podium in Motocross this season. Additionally, his Starts have tremendously improved since being back on the Orange bike. To get these results, in what has essentially been his first full-year racing Supercross (Prado only raced four preview races in 2024 and missed 14 races in 2025 due to injury) is pretty damn impressive to me.

You may be onto something when you mention the starts. Looking back at the first three rounds of 2025, he was starting around 8th-12th. Looking at...

You may be onto something when you mention the starts. Looking back at the first three rounds of 2025, he was starting around 8th-12th. Looking at how he handles a start like that now is interesting when thinking about his results last year. 

I don't really think that's accurate. Maybe you are looking at first lap, since AMA doesn't really track holeshots. Prado was consistently up front at the turn last year.

Hit me with your corrections. I am open to it.

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lumpy790 wrote:
I learned years ago when wrenching USGP’s that is a pretty Common euro endurance style of putting in a couple laps at 85-95% full speed then...

I learned years ago when wrenching USGP’s that is a pretty Common euro endurance style of putting in a couple laps at 85-95% full speed then a few laps backed down to 75-80 % where USA style has always been more like a 95-100% SX sprint race.

Not going backwards. 

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aees wrote:
Where do you get that from? He was catching Deegs late in the moto before his bike blew up. You don't do that with poor stamina...

Where do you get that from? He was catching Deegs late in the moto before his bike blew up. You don't do that with poor stamina. Running 2.07 with 4 laps to go when his fastest was 2.05. 

It will be same as in SX. If a win or good starts put him in position to do good, he will go for it. Otherwise not risk much. 

Mit12 wrote:
He is 25 to 30 seconds back because he backs it down to make the fukk moto at a top 5 speed. He has a lot...

He is 25 to 30 seconds back because he backs it down to make the fukk moto at a top 5 speed. He has a lot more speed you can see it on the first few laps then his body position changes and he backs it down. Watch him next week you can clearly see him do it. 

lumpy790 wrote:
I learned years ago when wrenching USGP’s that is a pretty Common euro endurance style of putting in a couple laps at 85-95% full speed then...

I learned years ago when wrenching USGP’s that is a pretty Common euro endurance style of putting in a couple laps at 85-95% full speed then a few laps backed down to 75-80 % where USA style has always been more like a 95-100% SX sprint race.

That was the case when they where doing 40+2. They all had that strategy to survive.

No one uses that anymore unless they have the luxury to build a gap early.

Watch Herlings and Coenen in sardena. I can promise you no other riders in AMA has raced as close to 100% all through the moto as they did for moto 2. Herlings was within a second of his best laptime on final laps, 1 sec behind Lucas crossing the line.

That's on the final laps, on a destroyed sand track, final moto where they have raced 5 classes in a day.

They where doing 1.47-48 in the begining, middle and end of the races.

Same in Italy this week, within 1sec beginning, middle and end of Herlings, Renexau and Coenen crossing the line within 4 sec or something.

It all depends on the competition. If someone has a gap big enough after 5-7 laps, of course they will adapt the pace to not waste more energy than needed or take bigger risks than needed. 

I don't see a difference in AMA or MXGP on this topic.

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Fraudo has some issues, clearly. 

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The Devil Wears Prada.

Prado Wears Fox.

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SRF2DRT wrote:
Underwhelming? I’d say Prado’s been just about anything, but that… We all know that he struggled on the Kawasaki in 2024/2025 having never being comfortable on...

Underwhelming? I’d say Prado’s been just about anything, but that… We all know that he struggled on the Kawasaki in 2024/2025 having never being comfortable on the bike. But, since switching back to KTM he’s managed to get four top 5’s in Supercross and already has one podium in Motocross this season. Additionally, his Starts have tremendously improved since being back on the Orange bike. To get these results, in what has essentially been his first full-year racing Supercross (Prado only raced four preview races in 2024 and missed 14 races in 2025 due to injury) is pretty damn impressive to me.

You may be onto something when you mention the starts. Looking back at the first three rounds of 2025, he was starting around 8th-12th. Looking at...

You may be onto something when you mention the starts. Looking back at the first three rounds of 2025, he was starting around 8th-12th. Looking at how he handles a start like that now is interesting when thinking about his results last year. 

I don't really think that's accurate. Maybe you are looking at first lap, since AMA doesn't really track holeshots. Prado was consistently up front at the...

I don't really think that's accurate. Maybe you are looking at first lap, since AMA doesn't really track holeshots. Prado was consistently up front at the turn last year.

Hit me with your corrections. I am open to it.

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You may be onto something when you mention the starts. Looking back at the first three rounds of 2025, he was starting around 8th-12th. Looking at...

You may be onto something when you mention the starts. Looking back at the first three rounds of 2025, he was starting around 8th-12th. Looking at how he handles a start like that now is interesting when thinking about his results last year. 

I don't really think that's accurate. Maybe you are looking at first lap, since AMA doesn't really track holeshots. Prado was consistently up front at the...

I don't really think that's accurate. Maybe you are looking at first lap, since AMA doesn't really track holeshots. Prado was consistently up front at the turn last year.

Hit me with your corrections. I am open to it.

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I don't really think that's accurate. Maybe you are looking at first lap, since AMA doesn't really track holeshots. Prado was consistently up front at the...

I don't really think that's accurate. Maybe you are looking at first lap, since AMA doesn't really track holeshots. Prado was consistently up front at the turn last year.

Hit me with your corrections. I am open to it.

Fox 2025 Both Motos

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Prado at highpoint post race - "I was catching Jett!" Seriously what a dumb cunt.....

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Once the air was let out of his title hopes, I think he is mentally over it for the season. Just learn the tracks and stay...

Once the air was let out of his title hopes, I think he is mentally over it for the season. Just learn the tracks and stay healthy I think is the mindset now. 

DonM wrote:

Learn the tracks? Didn’t he learn them last year?

Different view when you’re not holding a hand up blocking roost from zip code guys…

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FroDiddy wrote:

He's actually saying Prado, he's just not enunciating his O.

It's like people who say "watta" instead of water.

Kenv wrote:

No he's NOT...he legit CANNOT pronounce it correctly.  He does fine with Jorge...he just can't understand the difference between Prado and Prada...and it's f'n irritating.   

kpiper wrote:
Heard James last week say, "Prada, I mean Prado". He is just being very lazy. Easier for him to say Prada I guess. Maybe Prado needs...

Heard James last week say, "Prada, I mean Prado". He is just being very lazy. Easier for him to say Prada I guess. Maybe Prado needs to text JS7 and ask if he could call him by his actual name. You think Weege would correct him.

He’s never going to call Johnny O, Johnny Uh.

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