So who is the AM that doesn’t buckle their own helmet?

1/21/2026 8:23am Edited Date/Time 1/21/2026 8:23am
MOTO13 wrote:
I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they...

I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they still live with ther friggin parents. And many of them are married. I don't get it...I really don't. 

That one is a lot more clear cut. Housing is expensive.

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MOTO13 wrote:
I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they...

I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they still live with ther friggin parents. And many of them are married. I don't get it...I really don't. 

That one is a lot more clear cut. Housing is expensive.

Housing has always been expensive. 30 years ago you dealt with that by sharing a shit hole with 3 or 4 of your buddies because independence and freedom were valued more than physical comfort. That's not what's valued anymore. 

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MOTO13 wrote:
I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they...

I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they still live with ther friggin parents. And many of them are married. I don't get it...I really don't. 

That one is a lot more clear cut. Housing is expensive.

Lol...ok. Everything is harder today than than it ever was. That's complete BS Then...rent, sacrifice...do whatever, but don't be a 30 yo living with mommy n daddy. I moved out making $5/hr. Made that my entire time in college. Guess what...I did ok. Didn't own shit, but paid my own way. Some kids these days are other worldly responsible and we see that in many. But, more and more, these people are getting fucking pathetic with their reasons for not being on their own. 

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1/21/2026 8:31am
MOTO13 wrote:
I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they...

I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they still live with ther friggin parents. And many of them are married. I don't get it...I really don't. 

That one is a lot more clear cut. Housing is expensive.

In certain areas yeah, it’s outrageously expensive, especially compared to what people are being paid. Some of the hardest working people I know either live with their parents still or live with a million roommates and work 2 to 3 jobs. It is harder than ever to live on your own with only 1 job. 

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Sorry for the rant. I sitting here reviewing freaking W2's because someone couldn't make it with the snow we had this morning. 

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1/21/2026 8:44am
Maybe said Spaniard has been told from his employer not to lift bike on stand due to prior shoulder injury. That actual act of lifting bike in...

Maybe said Spaniard has been told from his employer not to lift bike on stand due to prior shoulder injury. 

That actual act of lifting bike in that motion. 

Doesn’t that sound more realistic.  

If he can't lift the bike he sure as shit would never get the go ahead from a DR to be back riding the bike.

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1/21/2026 8:52am
MOTO13 wrote:
I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they...

I see this kind of stuff a lot lately (past 10 years). Thirty year olds sending in resumes, we interview them and we find out they still live with ther friggin parents. And many of them are married. I don't get it...I really don't. 

That one is a lot more clear cut. Housing is expensive.

truck wrote:
Housing has always been expensive. 30 years ago you dealt with that by sharing a shit hole with 3 or 4 of your buddies because independence...

Housing has always been expensive. 30 years ago you dealt with that by sharing a shit hole with 3 or 4 of your buddies because independence and freedom were valued more than physical comfort. That's not what's valued anymore. 

Now you would have to be with 9 or 10 of your buddies.

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It's pretty amazing to me how many riders know nothing about their bikes either. I've talked to many pros that couldn't tell you where the fork compression adjuster is. 

 

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Snapper wrote:

What were they waiting for exactly?

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For their mechanic to put his bike on the stand…  

I thought it was waiting 5 mins for his mechanic to get on the bike to ride into the stadium. I was really confused the thought...

I thought it was waiting 5 mins for his mechanic to get on the bike to ride into the stadium. I was really confused the thought of putting the bike on the stand never crossed my mind

You could be right and that would make more sense.The way I took the conversation was that he was wanting the mechanic to put the bike on the stand. 

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1/21/2026 9:35am
truck wrote:
https://www.amazon.com/Price-Privilege-Advantage-Generation-Disconnected/dp/006059585XHer more recent books are good as well. Parents, be warned, you're going to take some lumps if you read them. tl;dr version is character comes...

https://www.amazon.com/Price-Privilege-Advantage-Generation-Disconnected/dp/006059585X

Her more recent books are good as well. Parents, be warned, you're going to take some lumps if you read them. 

tl;dr version is character comes from hardship and if you remove all hardship your kid cannot develop character and as a result lacks the confidence to go out into the world. So well meaning parents have to be OK with their kids suffering to some degree, not getting first or being special at everything, etc, and modern well meaning parents suck at that. I think she uses the snow plow parenting analogy. Parents think they're helping by always clearing the path, but they're not. 

This book was written before social media exploded and that's only made the issues worse. 

There's also phenomenon where generations over correct for the mistakes of their parents generation. Lot of kids coming of age in the past 20 years were raised by parents who themselves were raised by hard ass silent generation and baby boomers. These parents over corrected and came up with gentle parenting and similar nonsense, and here we are. 

 

Thanks for the share Truck  I will check it out. As a parent to two young boys this has been a big topic in my house. Overcompensation is definitely something I’ve been keeping an eye on and it eats a guy up doing something different than the way I was raised. 

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1/21/2026 9:37am
Trickamoto wrote:

soft...

My dad is a pretty gnarly dude. Iron worker, no bullshit kind of guy. He would tell me the same thing before every moto. Telling your child you love them and to have fun is not soft. 

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1/21/2026 9:49am

"Child" labor laws are too restrictive now. I put child in quotes because really, is a 16 year old who wants to work a child?

When I was a teenager in the 80's many of my classmates worked either at a fast food place or grocery store after school. Here in Washington when my step son turned 16 in 2010 he applied for many jobs but because of labor laws he wasn't able to work past a certain time at night, or he wasn't allowed to run the cardboard compactor at the grocery store.  Things my generation was able to do. So these business end up hiring adults. 

He did have buddies that got jobs....but it was at their parents owned business 

 

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1/21/2026 9:52am
Maybe said Spaniard has been told from his employer not to lift bike on stand due to prior shoulder injury. That actual act of lifting bike in...

Maybe said Spaniard has been told from his employer not to lift bike on stand due to prior shoulder injury. 

That actual act of lifting bike in that motion. 

Doesn’t that sound more realistic.  

If that were truly the case...

 

Get the rider a dang triangle stand.

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1/21/2026 9:56am
Maybe said Spaniard has been told from his employer not to lift bike on stand due to prior shoulder injury. That actual act of lifting bike in...

Maybe said Spaniard has been told from his employer not to lift bike on stand due to prior shoulder injury. 

That actual act of lifting bike in that motion. 

Doesn’t that sound more realistic.  

mxbrian15 wrote:

If that were truly the case...

 

Get the rider a dang triangle stand.

I'd much rather stand that guy's bike upright than try to figure out how he wants his shock preload set.

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1/21/2026 10:06am
MOTO13 wrote:

Sorry for the rant. I sitting here reviewing freaking W2's because someone couldn't make it with the snow we had this morning. 

If your employee can't handle a little Midwest snow they might not be lazy, they might just be from the south.

Multi-generational households will be more and more common with the current and projected price of houses and loan rates. If a 30 year old today didn't buy a house when they were 25 they are pretty screwed now. In some Asian countries it's common that young adults will live with their parents until they get married and can afford a place of their own on 2 incomes, but then often parents will move in with those same offspring after retirement. 

If some of these states are successful pushing no property tax for retirees you'll see a lot more adults living in a house in their parent's name forever. Lots of second order affects.

Seems to me since there's been so much information available on the internet and YouTube it's gone out of fashion to deliberately teach things in real life. "Just watch a YouTube video" is the answer to a lot of questions but you can miss a lot of detail and nuance without 1 on 1 instruction. I don't think kids learn as much as adults do by getting passive instruction on the internet because they have an even limited understanding of what they don't know and what is actually important.

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MOTO13 wrote:

Sorry for the rant. I sitting here reviewing freaking W2's because someone couldn't make it with the snow we had this morning. 

early wrote:
If your employee can't handle a little Midwest snow they might not be lazy, they might just be from the south.Multi-generational households will be more and...

If your employee can't handle a little Midwest snow they might not be lazy, they might just be from the south.

Multi-generational households will be more and more common with the current and projected price of houses and loan rates. If a 30 year old today didn't buy a house when they were 25 they are pretty screwed now. In some Asian countries it's common that young adults will live with their parents until they get married and can afford a place of their own on 2 incomes, but then often parents will move in with those same offspring after retirement. 

If some of these states are successful pushing no property tax for retirees you'll see a lot more adults living in a house in their parent's name forever. Lots of second order affects.

Seems to me since there's been so much information available on the internet and YouTube it's gone out of fashion to deliberately teach things in real life. "Just watch a YouTube video" is the answer to a lot of questions but you can miss a lot of detail and nuance without 1 on 1 instruction. I don't think kids learn as much as adults do by getting passive instruction on the internet because they have an even limited understanding of what they don't know and what is actually important.

And there are few things in life that I enjoy more than when one of my kids wants to help work on a vehicle or fix whatever it is I'm working on, teaching them how some tool works, watching them try to figure it out and get dirty.... and I only have girls. 

Just nuts to me that you'd be all in on your kid doing a sport like moto and that wouldn't include learning and doing every aspect of it with the bike too. Even if you can afford to pay someone else to do it I don't know how you don't see the value in having all the knowledge even if all you care about is winning races. 

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Thank god I’m a perfect parent raising my kid just right!

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1/21/2026 11:11am

I know a fast guy who - in high school - didn't know how to adjust or lube his chain. He was fine with putting gas in the tank, but I'm uncertain about whether he knew how to mix gas. Totally mechanically ignorant, but man he was fast. 

I'm with most of you guys; teach your children well. 

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This stuff isn’t surprising, there’s been a generation of kids now not taught how to take care of themselves and transition into adulthood. No driver’s license...

This stuff isn’t surprising, there’s been a generation of kids now not taught how to take care of themselves and transition into adulthood. No driver’s license at 16, no desire to move out and start a family. Mostly due to parents who are either lazy, or reluctant to teach them how to do it for some weird fear their kids might not be dependent on them. I know, I know, “get off my lawn!”

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It's also interesting that it's coinciding with professional athletes able to perform at the highest level later in life.   Almost like some sort of environmental factor...

It's also interesting that it's coinciding with professional athletes able to perform at the highest level later in life.
   Almost like some sort of environmental factor is making people slightly more retarded each generation.

Has anyone checked the water and food supply?

My mother and I both work with large numbers of students ranging from 2nd grade to college and I can tell you straight up - many middle schoolers struggle to read, many high schoolers struggle with fractions, and almost nobody has any logical skillset. It's beyond troublesome.

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1/21/2026 11:49am
Maybe said Spaniard has been told from his employer not to lift bike on stand due to prior shoulder injury. That actual act of lifting bike in...

Maybe said Spaniard has been told from his employer not to lift bike on stand due to prior shoulder injury. 

That actual act of lifting bike in that motion. 

Doesn’t that sound more realistic.  

mxbrian15 wrote:

If that were truly the case...

 

Get the rider a dang triangle stand.

That’s what I do most of the time unless I,,m changing sag.  I do 4-5 lap heaters then take a 10-20 min break. The triangle works Perfect.  The stand is usually used by some random chic in my pit. IMG 4285 1

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My daughter is 11 and every time we work on her bicycle or e-bike I hand her the tools and show her how to do it. She can already change a tube on her bike. It's fun and she loves learning that stuff. It's part of being a Dad to me.

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Trickamoto wrote:

soft...

My dad is a pretty gnarly dude. Iron worker, no bullshit kind of guy. He would tell me the same thing before every moto. Telling your...

My dad is a pretty gnarly dude. Iron worker, no bullshit kind of guy. He would tell me the same thing before every moto. Telling your child you love them and to have fun is not soft. 

my dad did the same. he was the best but he never put my bike on the stand or put my fucking gear on....

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lol soo many victims in this thread. Poor me. Myself and the circle I keep around me could have ruled the world in the past generations if it’s as easy as you guys say. I say bring back the draft. Life’s not that hard. Stop bitching. 

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1/21/2026 2:30pm
Trickamoto wrote:

my dad did the same. he was the best but he never put my bike on the stand or put my fucking gear on....

Well yea no shit. That’s not what you were calling soft though big guy 

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1/21/2026 2:39pm Edited Date/Time 1/21/2026 2:39pm

That one is a lot more clear cut. Housing is expensive.

truck wrote:
Housing has always been expensive. 30 years ago you dealt with that by sharing a shit hole with 3 or 4 of your buddies because independence...

Housing has always been expensive. 30 years ago you dealt with that by sharing a shit hole with 3 or 4 of your buddies because independence and freedom were valued more than physical comfort. That's not what's valued anymore. 

Now you would have to be with 9 or 10 of your buddies.

I don't believe that, I know several kids just out of high school and they are all making 19+ per hour, they make plenty to live on their own they just waste it.

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MOTO13 wrote:
Lol...ok. Everything is harder today than than it ever was. That's complete BS Then...rent, sacrifice...do whatever, but don't be a 30 yo living with mommy n...

Lol...ok. Everything is harder today than than it ever was. That's complete BS Then...rent, sacrifice...do whatever, but don't be a 30 yo living with mommy n daddy. I moved out making $5/hr. Made that my entire time in college. Guess what...I did ok. Didn't own shit, but paid my own way. Some kids these days are other worldly responsible and we see that in many. But, more and more, these people are getting fucking pathetic with their reasons for not being on their own. 

Ok Boomer, back in “Your” day cost of living to income ratio was drastically different and you could actually do that.

Heck my grandma, was a hair stylist who bought rentals and retired off of them eventually. A lot harder, and sometimes not even possible these days.

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Getting deep into the non moto waters here. 

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Getting deep into the non moto waters here. 

Yeah, you can pretty much put a fork in it when the "boomer" label comes out. 😄

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MOTO13 wrote:
Lol...ok. Everything is harder today than than it ever was. That's complete BS Then...rent, sacrifice...do whatever, but don't be a 30 yo living with mommy n...

Lol...ok. Everything is harder today than than it ever was. That's complete BS Then...rent, sacrifice...do whatever, but don't be a 30 yo living with mommy n daddy. I moved out making $5/hr. Made that my entire time in college. Guess what...I did ok. Didn't own shit, but paid my own way. Some kids these days are other worldly responsible and we see that in many. But, more and more, these people are getting fucking pathetic with their reasons for not being on their own. 

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Ok Boomer, back in “Your” day cost of living to income ratio was drastically different and you could actually do that.Heck my grandma, was a hair...

Ok Boomer, back in “Your” day cost of living to income ratio was drastically different and you could actually do that.

Heck my grandma, was a hair stylist who bought rentals and retired off of them eventually. A lot harder, and sometimes not even possible these days.

Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have spent in the past, but they're getting far more in return.

The cost to live like your grandmother did back then is still incredibly cheap. Things haven't gotten more expensive as much as we've just been conditioned to think we need more things. This is why there's such a generational disconnect on this issue. Younger people cannot fathom the lives lived by those they call boomers and imagine them living the relatively comfortable life they live now at much more affordable prices when the reality is their life looked very different back then. Younger people could have that life easily right now if they wanted it. They don't. 

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Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have...

Common misconception here. The cost of living for the standard of living that is now considered normal is much more expensive than what people would have spent in the past, but they're getting far more in return.

The cost to live like your grandmother did back then is still incredibly cheap. Things haven't gotten more expensive as much as we've just been conditioned to think we need more things. This is why there's such a generational disconnect on this issue. Younger people cannot fathom the lives lived by those they call boomers and imagine them living the relatively comfortable life they live now at much more affordable prices when the reality is their life looked very different back then. Younger people could have that life easily right now if they wanted it. They don't. 

Just did some digging 


Average Income in 1990 was 50k, Average Home Proce was 68,000. 


Average Income in 2025 is 68k, Average Home price is 414k.

Yeah, things aren’t the same as they were back in the day.

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