Prado drama continuing?

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@ML512 does the release from Kawi include a release from his Monster contract, too, or are they still working that one? 

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Sounds like a stripper or two in my past. 😂 

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10/9/2025 6:01pm
beamer wrote:

I’m really hoping Tomac may go back to Kawi, he won’t like the orange bike at all. 

GPrider wrote:
so confused, how could he go back to Kawi? He just signed with KTM. Are you suggesting he does the same thing Prado did and walk...

so confused, how could he go back to Kawi? He just signed with KTM. Are you suggesting he does the same thing Prado did and walk out on his contract?

 

If Eli went to Kawi, that would leave an opening at KTM for Prado.

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beamer wrote:

I’m really hoping Tomac may go back to Kawi, he won’t like the orange bike at all. 

GPrider wrote:
so confused, how could he go back to Kawi? He just signed with KTM. Are you suggesting he does the same thing Prado did and walk...

so confused, how could he go back to Kawi? He just signed with KTM. Are you suggesting he does the same thing Prado did and walk out on his contract?

 

If Eli went to Kawi, that would leave an opening at KTM for Prado.

He's going back to Kawi, Kawi, Kawi
He's going back to Kawi... hmm, I don't think so.

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beamer wrote:

I’m really hoping Tomac may go back to Kawi, he won’t like the orange bike at all. 

GPrider wrote:
so confused, how could he go back to Kawi? He just signed with KTM. Are you suggesting he does the same thing Prado did and walk...

so confused, how could he go back to Kawi? He just signed with KTM. Are you suggesting he does the same thing Prado did and walk out on his contract?

 

If Eli went to Kawi, that would leave an opening at KTM for Prado.

Eli and Prado are already both riding a KTM next year. 

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10/9/2025 6:21pm
GPrider wrote:
so confused, how could he go back to Kawi? He just signed with KTM. Are you suggesting he does the same thing Prado did and walk...

so confused, how could he go back to Kawi? He just signed with KTM. Are you suggesting he does the same thing Prado did and walk out on his contract?

 

If Eli went to Kawi, that would leave an opening at KTM for Prado.

ab5772 wrote:
He's going back to Kawi, Kawi, KawiHe's going back to Kawi... hmm, I don't think so. 

He's going back to Kawi, Kawi, Kawi
He's going back to Kawi... hmm, I don't think so.

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I don't think he will either, that's why I said "If"!

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Anybody notice that Kawasaki’s PR statement didn’t include anything about being dissatisfied with Prado’s performance? In fact, it says absolutely nothing about the 2025 season, they...

Anybody notice that Kawasaki’s PR statement didn’t include anything about being dissatisfied with Prado’s performance? In fact, it says absolutely nothing about the 2025 season, they just say they “reached a settlement” and wished him the best.

It makes sense for both sides to take the high road (and it’s likely part of the settlement agreement), but that means we’ll never get the official story and will have to continue with speculation.

In most business settings, the terms of the deal and what really happened are not public. Say the least, wish each other well publicly and move on. We are fortunate enough to have insiders (including Prado himself) actually come forward on social media on their issues. 
Despite being a 2x world champ, I don’t think he will just snap back to winning form after a year of struggling and his competition advancing. Especially in the US, SX, and these weird problems Sexton and Vialle were having. 

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10/9/2025 6:47pm
KurtJ99 wrote:
In most business settings, the terms of the deal and what really happened are not public. Say the least, wish each other well publicly and move...

In most business settings, the terms of the deal and what really happened are not public. Say the least, wish each other well publicly and move on. We are fortunate enough to have insiders (including Prado himself) actually come forward on social media on their issues. 
Despite being a 2x world champ, I don’t think he will just snap back to winning form after a year of struggling and his competition advancing. Especially in the US, SX, and these weird problems Sexton and Vialle were having. 

Prado is a 4X world Champ

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10/9/2025 8:00pm Edited Date/Time 10/9/2025 8:06pm

Going back to Kawi would be like going back to your Ex...

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I banged my first wife plenty of times after we divorced... it was still fun!! 🤣

matze wrote:

Can confirm. Sex with the ex can be great

That would be confusing.

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Motofinne wrote:
And that same Tomac's dad said on record that they left Kawasaki because the Tomacs felt they had more in them and Kawasaki was too conservative...

And that same Tomac's dad said on record that they left Kawasaki because the Tomacs felt they had more in them and Kawasaki was too conservative and weren't able to deliver changes that they wanted. And he went on a won more.

So lets just stop pretending that 100% of the blamepie of this shitshow is on Prado. Or at least i hope Kawasaki realizes that, because Sexton wont be easy on them.

The key difference between Prado and Tomac is that Tomac gave it his best until the very end winning 2 of the last 3 races his...

The key difference between Prado and Tomac is that Tomac gave it his best until the very end winning 2 of the last 3 races his final year with the team. It took his dad doing a podcast with Matthes months later to find out that he wasn’t entirely happy with the bike, you never heard a peep from Eli himself. Prado blamed the team the entire time and basically quit on them mid season. There really is no comparison here in my opinion.

You have misunderstood my point, i did not compare the situations and i agree they are not the same. Tomac didn't behave like a dick like Prado has.

 My point was that there is precedent of Kawasaki not being flexible/open enough. Just because they themselves think that they have worked hard and done everything doesn't mean that they could've done more. 

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10/9/2025 9:44pm

Where did $2m + for Prado's contract with Kawi come from? 

Seems excessive 

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10/9/2025 11:13pm

There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really an ailment when it comes to riding. Gets on the kawi and definitely  has struggles. Most definitely blames the bike and team for results and struggles associated. But. Had never been this way before.....proving innocence or guilt based on the situatio7n? I lean toward innocence based on track record. Could be wrong but man if there was ever an argument for you're only as good as your last race this is it. I worked with him but it was years ago when he was a kid. He was picky about the setup.  Good or bad he had clear idea of what he wanted. The team needs to facilitate that. Did they? Did they not? Whole truth probably won't come out. Truth is, you dont ever luck into multiple championships in any discipline and he has those. Not one, not two, not three, but 4. Guy can ride. As a former rider and a team mechanic it's not anyone's fault. Shit happens, didn't work out for anyone but to want to hang the guy seems incredibly excessive. 

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10/9/2025 11:26pm Edited Date/Time 10/9/2025 11:39pm

I think we havent seen the real Jorge.

Just imagine if he rode at his max and it results in a lot of crashes: -was that all he had!? -Then he sucks because the bike is of course perfect, its factory! 

Now, ”rolling around” showing just enough determination to grab some holeshots and holding on whiteknuckled for a couple laps, no one have yet seen his true capability in the nationals.

Now on a steel frame, will he win? No but the difference should be obvious to anyone.

Will Eli struggle on the KTM? Time will tell.

I hope (US) KTM solve whatever suspension issues there is, imagine Eli ”rolling around” to not kill himself…

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10/10/2025 12:05am
mx216 wrote:
There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really...

There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really an ailment when it comes to riding. Gets on the kawi and definitely  has struggles. Most definitely blames the bike and team for results and struggles associated. But. Had never been this way before.....proving innocence or guilt based on the situatio7n? I lean toward innocence based on track record. Could be wrong but man if there was ever an argument for you're only as good as your last race this is it. I worked with him but it was years ago when he was a kid. He was picky about the setup.  Good or bad he had clear idea of what he wanted. The team needs to facilitate that. Did they? Did they not? Whole truth probably won't come out. Truth is, you dont ever luck into multiple championships in any discipline and he has those. Not one, not two, not three, but 4. Guy can ride. As a former rider and a team mechanic it's not anyone's fault. Shit happens, didn't work out for anyone but to want to hang the guy seems incredibly excessive. 

Exactly. Whatever you think about him, he is betting on himself in this situation (walking away from a multi million contract) and you should have some respect for that. I've personally seen him ride since he was on 85s, dominating in his first year on the 125, making big steps on the 250 and becoming a multiple times World Champion. He had to fight for those titles. Especially the MXGP ones against Herlings and Gajser, two of the biggest names in our sport the past 10+ years. As a dirtbike fan I hope he turns things around. 

Personally I've never met him. Probably never will. I don't know how he treated his mechanics and other Kawasaki team members, but in Europe I don't know him as an arrogant person

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10/10/2025 12:36am

I think everyone has forgotten he does have the pace to run top 5. 

Absolute shambles but I wish his well wherever he ends up. 

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10/10/2025 6:25am

I loved Kawi's press release....a pic of Prada "walking away"......that was no accident. 

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10/10/2025 6:35am
mx216 wrote:
There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really...

There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really an ailment when it comes to riding. Gets on the kawi and definitely  has struggles. Most definitely blames the bike and team for results and struggles associated. But. Had never been this way before.....proving innocence or guilt based on the situatio7n? I lean toward innocence based on track record. Could be wrong but man if there was ever an argument for you're only as good as your last race this is it. I worked with him but it was years ago when he was a kid. He was picky about the setup.  Good or bad he had clear idea of what he wanted. The team needs to facilitate that. Did they? Did they not? Whole truth probably won't come out. Truth is, you dont ever luck into multiple championships in any discipline and he has those. Not one, not two, not three, but 4. Guy can ride. As a former rider and a team mechanic it's not anyone's fault. Shit happens, didn't work out for anyone but to want to hang the guy seems incredibly excessive. 

Absolutely, but publicly throwing his team and coworkers under the bus was shitty. He purposely tried not to qualify for a race and stated his bike/team was inferior/unsafe, not cool at all.

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10/10/2025 8:32am Edited Date/Time 10/10/2025 8:33am
Motofinne wrote:
You have misunderstood my point, i did not compare the situations and i agree they are not the same. Tomac didn't behave like a dick like...

You have misunderstood my point, i did not compare the situations and i agree they are not the same. Tomac didn't behave like a dick like Prado has.

 My point was that there is precedent of Kawasaki not being flexible/open enough. Just because they themselves think that they have worked hard and done everything doesn't mean that they could've done more. 

That’s fair. I just feel the large majority of the criticism for Prado comes from his attitude through this whole situation. It’s all comes across as very unprofessional. But yeah, maybe Kawasaki has to look in the mirror a bit themselves here.

10/10/2025 8:35am
mx216 wrote:
There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really...

There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really an ailment when it comes to riding. Gets on the kawi and definitely  has struggles. Most definitely blames the bike and team for results and struggles associated. But. Had never been this way before.....proving innocence or guilt based on the situatio7n? I lean toward innocence based on track record. Could be wrong but man if there was ever an argument for you're only as good as your last race this is it. I worked with him but it was years ago when he was a kid. He was picky about the setup.  Good or bad he had clear idea of what he wanted. The team needs to facilitate that. Did they? Did they not? Whole truth probably won't come out. Truth is, you dont ever luck into multiple championships in any discipline and he has those. Not one, not two, not three, but 4. Guy can ride. As a former rider and a team mechanic it's not anyone's fault. Shit happens, didn't work out for anyone but to want to hang the guy seems incredibly excessive. 

Spoonguy wrote:
Absolutely, but publicly throwing his team and coworkers under the bus was shitty. He purposely tried not to qualify for a race and stated his bike/team...

Absolutely, but publicly throwing his team and coworkers under the bus was shitty. He purposely tried not to qualify for a race and stated his bike/team was inferior/unsafe, not cool at all.

agreed. He can hate the bike and that's fair. But to roll around and deliberately try to not qualify is next level BS. Could Kawi have done things differently/better? Perhaps. Does it any way excuse Jorge's behavior? No way.

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You know,

Somewhere on here is a thread about "what bike have you rode once and hated so much you sold it?" Now imagine being required to ride that bike.

It was a tough scenario all around. Kawasaki doesn't exactly have the reputation for being accommodating to their riders. Prado may have felt absolutely trapped, without any hope of making things better for three years. Even so, he should have had a shit fit behind the scenes but been a consummate pro in public. 

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10/10/2025 9:09am
mx216 wrote:
There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really...

There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really an ailment when it comes to riding. Gets on the kawi and definitely  has struggles. Most definitely blames the bike and team for results and struggles associated. But. Had never been this way before.....proving innocence or guilt based on the situatio7n? I lean toward innocence based on track record. Could be wrong but man if there was ever an argument for you're only as good as your last race this is it. I worked with him but it was years ago when he was a kid. He was picky about the setup.  Good or bad he had clear idea of what he wanted. The team needs to facilitate that. Did they? Did they not? Whole truth probably won't come out. Truth is, you dont ever luck into multiple championships in any discipline and he has those. Not one, not two, not three, but 4. Guy can ride. As a former rider and a team mechanic it's not anyone's fault. Shit happens, didn't work out for anyone but to want to hang the guy seems incredibly excessive. 

You're looking at select facts. Other facts of interest:

He had shoulder problems in 2019, 2024, and now 2025.

He initially had high praise for the Kawasaki, and he made a point of directly comparing it to the GG which wasn't at all favorable to the Austrians.

His MO is getting the start and riding a wide bike. That exposes you to more risk, bad enough in MXGP but in SX it's much worse as it entails cross jumping.

When you combine these additional facts in, the narrative isn't so black and white. It isn't as obvious how well his MXGP skills cross over to SX, whether he has significant reoccurring health issues, or what level of gratitude he's shown past employers.

 

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Jason jokes he had “the fast one.” Well, there’s your problem right there! 🤣  

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10/10/2025 12:48pm
Falcon wrote:
You know,Somewhere on here is a thread about "what bike have you rode once and hated so much you sold it?" Now imagine being [i]required[/i] to...

You know,

Somewhere on here is a thread about "what bike have you rode once and hated so much you sold it?" Now imagine being required to ride that bike.

It was a tough scenario all around. Kawasaki doesn't exactly have the reputation for being accommodating to their riders. Prado may have felt absolutely trapped, without any hope of making things better for three years. Even so, he should have had a shit fit behind the scenes but been a consummate pro in public. 

At the end of the day though, Jorge chose to sign the contract after riding the bike...

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10/10/2025 1:04pm
jaun wrote:

Where did $2m + for Prado's contract with Kawi come from? 

Seems excessive 

From what I've gathered on this forum is that he signed a $3 mil 3 year contract (base ?), so I would assume he got $1mil a year. That seems valid to me for a 2x world champ on the big bikes (4x including MX2) considering Jett is supposedly making about $2mil a year on his new contract

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10/10/2025 1:49pm
davistld01 wrote:

Still in Fox gear?

usually using equipment from the old team, until signing the next contract... Craig did this these days, erasing helmet mounts

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