Bike prices up “double digits” for tariff adjustments.

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Team403 wrote:
Here’s a novel Idea fellow Americans- BUY less shit!!  The best thing we can do for our society ( not biz ) is to stop buying...

Here’s a novel Idea fellow Americans- BUY less shit!!  The best thing we can do for our society ( not biz ) is to stop buying needless shit. We all do it.  99% of people who use aftermarket parts don’t need them - they want them

Buying things you don’t need with money you don’t have to impress people you don’t know - US 100%

So stop buying things things I want?  Why get out of bed at all?

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4/5/2025 7:24am Edited Date/Time 4/5/2025 7:43am
kage173 wrote:
Apparently not all the economists considering every other country has tarriffs against American products.And don't tell me that the Euro VAT is not a tarriff. It...

Apparently not all the economists considering every other country has tarriffs against American products.

And don't tell me that the Euro VAT is not a tarriff. It has the exact same effect. I would know.

Sorry, VAT is definitely not a tariff, it's a sales tax applied indifferently of the goods origin, it's the same for domestic and foreign products. Sales tax gives no competitive advantage to domestic against foreign goods.

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Team403 wrote:
Here’s a novel Idea fellow Americans- BUY less shit!!  The best thing we can do for our society ( not biz ) is to stop buying...

Here’s a novel Idea fellow Americans- BUY less shit!!  The best thing we can do for our society ( not biz ) is to stop buying needless shit. We all do it.  99% of people who use aftermarket parts don’t need them - they want them

Buying things you don’t need with money you don’t have to impress people you don’t know - US 100%

Well said!👏

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Team403 wrote:
Here’s a novel Idea fellow Americans- BUY less shit!!  The best thing we can do for our society ( not biz ) is to stop buying...

Here’s a novel Idea fellow Americans- BUY less shit!!  The best thing we can do for our society ( not biz ) is to stop buying needless shit. We all do it.  99% of people who use aftermarket parts don’t need them - they want them

Buying things you don’t need with money you don’t have to impress people you don’t know - US 100%

Smells like "You'll own nothing and be happy" speak to me.

 

On that note:    How is this thread still in moto?          

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Team403 wrote:
Here’s a novel Idea fellow Americans- BUY less shit!!  The best thing we can do for our society ( not biz ) is to stop buying...

Here’s a novel Idea fellow Americans- BUY less shit!!  The best thing we can do for our society ( not biz ) is to stop buying needless shit. We all do it.  99% of people who use aftermarket parts don’t need them - they want them

Buying things you don’t need with money you don’t have to impress people you don’t know - US 100%

Magoofan wrote:

Smells like "You'll own nothing and be happy" speak to me.

 

On that note:    How is this thread still in moto?          

I own more shit than most - don’t really need any of it.  Boats/ bikes / campers etc.. I’m def a contributor to the problem 😎

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dcg141 wrote:

Bikes already in country will not be affected. 

ThreadKill wrote:

All part of KTMs plan to build ahead and get product into the US before the Tariffs went into effect.

Thats what I was just thinking. How wild would it be if KTM making so many bikes and having a years worth of inventory ended up saving the company now? If they were able to move them to the US before the tariffs went into effect. They would be able to possible weather the storm by having a year before an increase from tariffs would happen. It would be wild if KTM's blunder of over producing ends up saving them in the end. 

 

Some of what goes into the price of gas is what the next tanker will cost the station . So if all of a sudden the next tanker was going to cost double, Gas prices go up right away.  I would think that depending on the demand for bikes or other items, cost could go up instantly on everything.  On items that are not going to be new model year things. Like say if  You had some helmets that You were going to reorder the same models ,sizes ,etc. And those helmets were selling well, You might raise the price knowing that the replacement stock will cost more.  Prices could go up tomorrow on just about anything .  So it might be a good time to try and stock up on some of the stuff You know You'll need.

 

 I am not sure how exactly this would work. But if something was ordered months ago before the tariffs. And was already being transported at the time the tariffs were put in place, would the importer now get hit with a tariff that they did not expect to have to pay back when they placed the order?  Some of the tariffs are so high that it could put the total price of an imported item above what retail used to be. Or the example somebody posted about a car they bought that would now be costing them 20 or 30% more than what they expected to pay back when they ordered it.  With many of the rates , it was a surprise to many because of the way they figured out the rates. So much freight on ships that just went up from what companies expected to be paying when it was loaded .

 

  It would  have been helpful to have announced the rates a month before putting them in place. Might not have made the stock market drop like panties on prom night . Makes me think that its by design, manipulating the market  was an intended action. As it is I could see some products end up being priced out of being able to sell them. And companies stuck with a bunch of stuff that cost them a bunch more. If the average Tariff is 10% , can everybody expect at least a 10% reduction in federal income tax? Otherwise its just a giant increase of taxes .

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I think what people discount in these Tariff negotiations, which is what they are, is that the USA is a huge consumer market to the rest...

I think what people discount in these Tariff negotiations, which is what they are, is that the USA is a huge consumer market to the rest of the world. The current administration simply wants products made in this country treated fairly internationally. Other countries will do most anything to sell products here, many country's economies depend upon the USA's buying power. These counter tariffs are simply an attempt to open markets, negotiations have not worked, maybe this will. I find it interesting that not only our own citizens sense of entitlement, but other countries sense of entitlement towards our government. It is bad enough that we are the world's policeman, but to call on the USA to aid every catastrophe, and not allow our products to be sold in many other countries is salt in wounds.

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4/5/2025 10:11am
dcg141 wrote:

Bikes already in country will not be affected. 

ThreadKill wrote:

All part of KTMs plan to build ahead and get product into the US before the Tariffs went into effect.

Thats what I was just thinking. How wild would it be if KTM making so many bikes and having a years worth of inventory ended up...

Thats what I was just thinking. How wild would it be if KTM making so many bikes and having a years worth of inventory ended up saving the company now? If they were able to move them to the US before the tariffs went into effect. They would be able to possible weather the storm by having a year before an increase from tariffs would happen. It would be wild if KTM's blunder of over producing ends up saving them in the end. 

 

Some of what goes into the price of gas is what the next tanker will cost the station . So if all of a sudden the next tanker was going to cost double, Gas prices go up right away.  I would think that depending on the demand for bikes or other items, cost could go up instantly on everything.  On items that are not going to be new model year things. Like say if  You had some helmets that You were going to reorder the same models ,sizes ,etc. And those helmets were selling well, You might raise the price knowing that the replacement stock will cost more.  Prices could go up tomorrow on just about anything .  So it might be a good time to try and stock up on some of the stuff You know You'll need.

 

 I am not sure how exactly this would work. But if something was ordered months ago before the tariffs. And was already being transported at the time the tariffs were put in place, would the importer now get hit with a tariff that they did not expect to have to pay back when they placed the order?  Some of the tariffs are so high that it could put the total price of an imported item above what retail used to be. Or the example somebody posted about a car they bought that would now be costing them 20 or 30% more than what they expected to pay back when they ordered it.  With many of the rates , it was a surprise to many because of the way they figured out the rates. So much freight on ships that just went up from what companies expected to be paying when it was loaded .

 

  It would  have been helpful to have announced the rates a month before putting them in place. Might not have made the stock market drop like panties on prom night . Makes me think that its by design, manipulating the market  was an intended action. As it is I could see some products end up being priced out of being able to sell them. And companies stuck with a bunch of stuff that cost them a bunch more. If the average Tariff is 10% , can everybody expect at least a 10% reduction in federal income tax? Otherwise its just a giant increase of taxes .

KTM using Jett’s big brain math. 

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Mauka wrote:

I thought prices were all going down on day 1?

Herr Lich wrote:

I'm not sure Trump understands that tariffs are universally reviled by economists for a reason. They impoverish everyone. 

kage173 wrote:
Apparently not all the economists considering every other country has tarriffs against American products.And don't tell me that the Euro VAT is not a tarriff. It...

Apparently not all the economists considering every other country has tarriffs against American products.

And don't tell me that the Euro VAT is not a tarriff. It has the exact same effect. I would know.

Sorry, you just exposed you actually have no clue. 

VAT is far from the same since it apply to ALL sales, no matter imported goods or not. 

There are a few exceptions for heavy industry and energy, but it's the same in all countries one way or another. Certainly not a subject to 4-8 times higher import duty. 

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dcg141 wrote:

Bikes already in country will not be affected. 

ThreadKill wrote:

All part of KTMs plan to build ahead and get product into the US before the Tariffs went into effect.

Crazy enough that does seem to be working out in their favor. All of the 25's are in country with some 24's still left. Currently rebates on all of them.

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Team403 wrote:
Here’s a novel Idea fellow Americans- BUY less shit!!  The best thing we can do for our society ( not biz ) is to stop buying...

Here’s a novel Idea fellow Americans- BUY less shit!!  The best thing we can do for our society ( not biz ) is to stop buying needless shit. We all do it.  99% of people who use aftermarket parts don’t need them - they want them

Buying things you don’t need with money you don’t have to impress people you don’t know - US 100%

Magoofan wrote:

Smells like "You'll own nothing and be happy" speak to me.

 

On that note:    How is this thread still in moto?          

MAoGA and the Great Leap Backwards

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dcg141 wrote:

Bikes already in country will not be affected. 

DaveB771 wrote:

Not officially, by the tariffs but I'd bet on an additional markup.

I'm not marking up units until my price goes up and I already have most of my allocation in the building.

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I was in need of a good laugh today 😁. This thread 🧵 delivered 😀 

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Wait.. double digits? So $99, max? 

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Sure hope his plan works.

There is no plan. Or not one that will benefit us average folks. His plan is to benefit him and his other billionaire friends by crashing the economy so they can buy everything up on the cheap. 

 

It's really that simple, and a big fuck you to the rest of us. Sucks that those of us who didn't vote for this shit will have to suffer too.

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dcg141 wrote:

Bikes already in country will not be affected. 

ThreadKill wrote:

All part of KTMs plan to build ahead and get product into the US before the Tariffs went into effect.

Thats what I was just thinking. How wild would it be if KTM making so many bikes and having a years worth of inventory ended up...

Thats what I was just thinking. How wild would it be if KTM making so many bikes and having a years worth of inventory ended up saving the company now? If they were able to move them to the US before the tariffs went into effect. They would be able to possible weather the storm by having a year before an increase from tariffs would happen. It would be wild if KTM's blunder of over producing ends up saving them in the end. 

 

Some of what goes into the price of gas is what the next tanker will cost the station . So if all of a sudden the next tanker was going to cost double, Gas prices go up right away.  I would think that depending on the demand for bikes or other items, cost could go up instantly on everything.  On items that are not going to be new model year things. Like say if  You had some helmets that You were going to reorder the same models ,sizes ,etc. And those helmets were selling well, You might raise the price knowing that the replacement stock will cost more.  Prices could go up tomorrow on just about anything .  So it might be a good time to try and stock up on some of the stuff You know You'll need.

 

 I am not sure how exactly this would work. But if something was ordered months ago before the tariffs. And was already being transported at the time the tariffs were put in place, would the importer now get hit with a tariff that they did not expect to have to pay back when they placed the order?  Some of the tariffs are so high that it could put the total price of an imported item above what retail used to be. Or the example somebody posted about a car they bought that would now be costing them 20 or 30% more than what they expected to pay back when they ordered it.  With many of the rates , it was a surprise to many because of the way they figured out the rates. So much freight on ships that just went up from what companies expected to be paying when it was loaded .

 

  It would  have been helpful to have announced the rates a month before putting them in place. Might not have made the stock market drop like panties on prom night . Makes me think that its by design, manipulating the market  was an intended action. As it is I could see some products end up being priced out of being able to sell them. And companies stuck with a bunch of stuff that cost them a bunch more. If the average Tariff is 10% , can everybody expect at least a 10% reduction in federal income tax? Otherwise its just a giant increase of taxes .

That would be crazy good luck for ktm. Just rebadge the 25’s as 26’s put BNG and sell at full msrp. Since ktm has so much inventory in the us already they dont get hit with the tarriffs, but they could still jack up prices to match the rest of the brands but make it like 1000 less and come out wayyy ahead since all the extra markup would be profit. Itll be interesting to see. The only thing is I dont see a whole lot of bikes selling when the economy is in the toilet, so theyd probably still come out behind anyways.

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Spoonguy wrote:
I think what people discount in these Tariff negotiations, which is what they are, is that the USA is a huge consumer market to the rest...

I think what people discount in these Tariff negotiations, which is what they are, is that the USA is a huge consumer market to the rest of the world. The current administration simply wants products made in this country treated fairly internationally. Other countries will do most anything to sell products here, many country's economies depend upon the USA's buying power. These counter tariffs are simply an attempt to open markets, negotiations have not worked, maybe this will. I find it interesting that not only our own citizens sense of entitlement, but other countries sense of entitlement towards our government. It is bad enough that we are the world's policeman, but to call on the USA to aid every catastrophe, and not allow our products to be sold in many other countries is salt in wounds.

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Germany protected our borders with their billion dollar aircraft carriers? South Korea stationed 50,000 soldiers here? Refresh my memory.

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Spoonguy wrote:
I think what people discount in these Tariff negotiations, which is what they are, is that the USA is a huge consumer market to the rest...

I think what people discount in these Tariff negotiations, which is what they are, is that the USA is a huge consumer market to the rest of the world. The current administration simply wants products made in this country treated fairly internationally. Other countries will do most anything to sell products here, many country's economies depend upon the USA's buying power. These counter tariffs are simply an attempt to open markets, negotiations have not worked, maybe this will. I find it interesting that not only our own citizens sense of entitlement, but other countries sense of entitlement towards our government. It is bad enough that we are the world's policeman, but to call on the USA to aid every catastrophe, and not allow our products to be sold in many other countries is salt in wounds.

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OK, I bit. I looked up the "assistance" refered to in your post. All I can say is, Gee how did we make it without such valuable allies?

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All I now is that TRUMP and Musk, they both have IQs north of 600. Probably  the smartest humans to ever live. They play 47 dimension chess. They seem stupid to some people, but that's because stupid people can't understand. They're like God. We can't understand Gods ways, same with the new messiah twins. I'm just blessed that God brought them into my life. Remember that the USA is Gods chosen country, we are the shining city on the hill for all the rest of the world to see. 

1 Million AMENS!

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The worst part about tariffs is the fact manufacturers will probably keep prices inflated even when the tariffs are no longer in effect 

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All I now is that TRUMP and Musk, they both have IQs north of 600. Probably  the smartest humans to ever live. They play 47 dimension...

All I now is that TRUMP and Musk, they both have IQs north of 600. Probably  the smartest humans to ever live. They play 47 dimension chess. They seem stupid to some people, but that's because stupid people can't understand. They're like God. We can't understand Gods ways, same with the new messiah twins. I'm just blessed that God brought them into my life. Remember that the USA is Gods chosen country, we are the shining city on the hill for all the rest of the world to see. 

1 Million AMENS!

💯 thank you 

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tyler113 wrote:
There is no plan. Or not one that will benefit us average folks. His plan is to benefit him and his other billionaire friends by crashing...

There is no plan. Or not one that will benefit us average folks. His plan is to benefit him and his other billionaire friends by crashing the economy so they can buy everything up on the cheap. 

 

It's really that simple, and a big fuck you to the rest of us. Sucks that those of us who didn't vote for this shit will have to suffer too.

If they can buy “everything” on the cheap, doesn’t that suggest prices will come back up? Billionaires don’t buy low and sell low.

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BREAKING: Canada, Israel, India, the EU, Japan, Vietnam, and Cambodia all pledge to DROP tariffs against the United States if President Trump agrees to do the same. What’s that? 👂 Tariffs don’t work??

This was posted by a friend of mine, so not 100%.

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BREAKING: Canada, Israel, India, the EU, Japan, Vietnam, and Cambodia all pledge to DROP tariffs against the United States if President Trump agrees to do the...

BREAKING: Canada, Israel, India, the EU, Japan, Vietnam, and Cambodia all pledge to DROP tariffs against the United States if President Trump agrees to do the same. What’s that? 👂 Tariffs don’t work??

This was posted by a friend of mine, so not 100%.

Drop a source on that, because I HIGHLY doubt that's true. 

 

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BREAKING: Canada, Israel, India, the EU, Japan, Vietnam, and Cambodia all pledge to DROP tariffs against the United States if President Trump agrees to do the...

BREAKING: Canada, Israel, India, the EU, Japan, Vietnam, and Cambodia all pledge to DROP tariffs against the United States if President Trump agrees to do the same. What’s that? 👂 Tariffs don’t work??

This was posted by a friend of mine, so not 100%.

tyler113 wrote:

Drop a source on that, because I HIGHLY doubt that's true. 

 

Did you not read my post saying it was posted by a friend and not 100%?

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The worst part about tariffs is the fact manufacturers will probably keep prices inflated even when the tariffs are no longer in effect 

That part. Once prices go up, theyre up. If the tarriffs come off people will be used to paying the extra and theyll just keep the prices the same. The extra profits will be used for stock buybacks to pump up the share price.

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mtbkris2 wrote:

The worst part about tariffs is the fact manufacturers will probably keep prices inflated even when the tariffs are no longer in effect 

Pop Shmoke wrote:
That part. Once prices go up, theyre up. If the tarriffs come off people will be used to paying the extra and theyll just keep the...

That part. Once prices go up, theyre up. If the tarriffs come off people will be used to paying the extra and theyll just keep the prices the same. The extra profits will be used for stock buybacks to pump up the share price.

During the last term, when Tariffs were put on some of the items I have access to sell, the distributor added a line to the invoices that showed that tariff amount. And said that if and when the tariff goes away, that charge will too. I do not remember the exact products that it was on, we don't sell much of them if any at all. It was a bearing brand if I remember right, and only a limited range of their products that happened to not really be stuff we deal with. So after that email I did not really think about it. I hope that is how they do it again.

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mx317 wrote:
BREAKING: Canada, Israel, India, the EU, Japan, Vietnam, and Cambodia all pledge to DROP tariffs against the United States if President Trump agrees to do the...

BREAKING: Canada, Israel, India, the EU, Japan, Vietnam, and Cambodia all pledge to DROP tariffs against the United States if President Trump agrees to do the same. What’s that? 👂 Tariffs don’t work??

This was posted by a friend of mine, so not 100%.

tyler113 wrote:

Drop a source on that, because I HIGHLY doubt that's true. 

 

I mean, despite 317 being super gullible, it may be kinda true, because most of those countries have near zero Tariffs against the U.S. already, and those that do (Vietnam, Cambodia) purchase nearly no U.S. goods (although both are heavily invested in U.S. services, which are not Tariffed).

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