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With them checking frames in tech now, and how much praise the Larry bros were giving the '25, can't help but wonder if Honda has been skirting the rules a bit? Either way I'm sure the head engineer over there, Dazzy, will have it all straightened out soon.
I'm still getting one in the spring though.
Why did they change ECUs?
Yes … Jett passed Tomac and put him in last at least for a little bit.
More Bycol Dazza. Maybe a new hoe while your down at Bunnings. While your there show the boys the new barrows!
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Nothing is stopping Honda from running the 2024 frame.
No kidding, their start maps we’re head and shoulders above everyone else, mind blowing to think “yeah this is working great, let’s throw that out”
It's a great bike obviously, but do they sell a lot of them? Nobody on here wants one.
also true.
but teams are reluctant to do that because it makes the new gen look worse from a purely marketing perspective. racing is a very expensive ad campaign after all. Whether the brands would suffer from going back to a works rule is debatable (I say no). I'm sure they will improve the bike throughout the year. Its over reaction sunday i guess.
I find it absolutely insane that the dryft scooter thing is $3,500!!!
And to get a Suzuki to run like a Yam or KYM takes boomer level money. Would start hearing from the poors all about it.
Honda made a better stock bike for their customers. Would you prefer they only make bikes for Jett?
Seems like there are a number of people on here who own and are happy with them. .... and it's still WAY more bike than the vast majority of people here can utilize to it's full potential.
Plus, I wonder how many people don't buy them because of the "negative" vibe put out by so many here. Kinda like when mom sent you to school in Sears Toughskins instead of Wranglers... Both good products....but "stigma" and all.
Yeah, I wore Toughskins! 🤣
I'd buy a Zook if I were in that market. Not to mention...IMNSHO....the Suzuki is the best looking bike out there. Yellow FTW.
In the perfect Gypsy Tales tone….
“Dude, that’s….like…so…(rips a long hit)…harsh, bro. You…like…(rips another hit)…TOTALLY harshed my mellow, bro!”
I get the feeling its more suspension related. I remember them switching back to and old spec showa setup early last year that they had to lobby for. could see them not having that option this year
Jo looked good but it didn’t look like he was able to charge. The heat race where he had to push it didn’t look great.
There's more visual (and functional) difference between the custom gussets teams already run on frames, than between those two model years.
That's weird, irrelevant shit for Vitards, not the general purchasing public.
You know, here I was, relaxing while having some dinner and reading all the IQ-draining posts on Vital, just winding down... and then someone had to go and mention Toughskins jeans... and trigger instant PTSD. 😲
Going to school with rich kids when the craze was Levi's with the cuff rolled at the bottom and having to wear Toughskins was akin to having NERD tatooed on your forehead. Stigma is putting it mildly. 😢
Thanks sooooo much for the memories! 😆
Honda has done this in the past! The 1997 CR 250. Jeremy quit instead of riding that pos.
I'm shocked because I thought Jett and Hunter had given input on the new bike.
Pit Row
The bike looked great in Q2 where a couple slip ups is all that prevented Jett going P1 and the only rider into the 1:02's all day. Hunter went 7th I believe?
Hunter came to life with aggression and speed defending Tomac in the heat. Bike looked fine there.
Obviously the track changes during the evening, but its hard to believe HRC missed the set up by that much in the main. Jett's main snowballed, but was very weird to see him just riding around for the majority of it unless something bent up or he banged himself up. Hunter was just an also ran. Weird.
See what SD brings.
Another situation where you need to believe your eyes, not what is on the board. Jett went by Tomac as Eli was picking up his bike. Tomac was in last place at that moment.
It was even worse if you had to sport some Trax sneakers from Kmart with your toughskins.
Tomac, Sexton and Web say he isn't winning the Championship
Who said they are checking frames in tech now?
You sound like you lived in the closet of my youth... and it's creeping me out! 😄
Can't a guy have some secrets? 🙃
Jett had a bad race. A very bad race. The sky is falling. Would anyone be surprised to see him yard everyone next round?
AMA doesn’t check worth a damn there a joke of technical inspections
Six Honda 450's entered and 11th place was the best they could do.
Next weekend we will probably see six 450 Hondas in the top ten.
This is why I love this place.... the vault of memories that get crow bared open from time to time.
Anyone in for Le Tigre shirts instead of Izod? 😂
82 - they handled vile too.

The 480 was awesome.
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