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Figured there would be a thread on here by now. But should i was on the line for the 10am race sunday Tim came across with a monster executive apologizing to the riders and fans that monster is no longer sponsoring the series. I knew we were a small series in the scheme of things, but monster pulling out is a little surprising.
A lot of moto-involved companies are downsizing right now. With news like this the rumor might be true..Monster might actually be done with 450 Kawi and PC Teams.
Can only be the title sponsor of three teams for so long...
The energy drink phenomenon cannot last forever…I mean…. who the hell drinks this poison?
Seriously? It’s seems like literally everyone drinks this stuff….Including a few cans a week by me..Then some weekends I mix with Tito’s..
You all will each shitty food, Mountain Dew and other crap…but yeah monster is poison..save your blah blah. Moderation is the key..
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Popular with blue collar guys for sure. I haven't had one in my life. But if you go to a gas station early in the morning guys are buying 4-6 of them at once
They’re probably pulling out of GNCC because spectators can no longer ride pit bikes wherever and whenever they want…….!
lol I feel like most the people that don’t drink monster also don’t drink Mountain Dew or eat shitty food. Rarely, (can’t recall a time tbh) do I meet someone with a healthy active nutrition program that includes monster
First responders guzzle them.
You’ll definitely be seeing some cut backs by Monster in the moto world next year. Riders, teams & series’s alike.
A buddy of mine is losing his support, he’s been with them for a while and still brings them a lot of value. Weird times for sure.
Ever work 12Am to 8am shift, and have 2 kids playing after school sports and don’t like coffee? That’s who.
Moderate your projections.
You must be all natty, congrats my man. Working on it myself.
GNCC is a great series and with a good marketing team it will find a new sponsor. Maybe an unknown player such as GearX or due to the "small" budget that is needed a motorsport loving firm such as Camping World, Bass Pro Shop, ...
The Energy Drink market isn't "done", by the way there are now just more players beside the giants Monster and Red Bull you've a bunch of smaller ones from Rockstar Energy, Celcius, Black Rifle (coffee in a tin can?) to Alani Nu and Prime! And if the pie doesn't get any bigger at the moment but there are more guests who all want a share. Than sometimes action is needed and they decide to back off, exit their core sports and enter other sports of projects to get a bigger piece of the pie or enlarge the pie. Just look at Red Bull that is now in cycling a sport that they in the past would've laughed about because the demographic of people watching, wasn't their target audience. That shows that they are also trying to enlarge the pie.
Mtn Dew "Kickstart", if I was 7 years old I would say that is meant-to-be.
I wonder why there aren't more outdoor or camping sponsors in moto or off-road
Literally everyone? No. I don't, the 8 people I was hanging with for the last 2 days don't, none of my friends or family do. With the exception of my son, my circle of friends and near family is about 30 people. Literally and everyone are way overused.
Brings the question: Are Monster, Red Bull etc energy drink companies that heavily market, or are they marketing companies that sell an energy drink?
Isn't the only negative just so much sugar? I don't think other stuff is bad. A bunch of caffeine too. IMO anything with high-fructose corn syrup is way worse.
Saw a rider in WSX sponsored by Arbys. BBQ, fitness centers, energy companies maybe Apple or Microsoft?
Just throwing out some ideas.
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They have a bunch of chemicals and the fake sweeteners are supposed to be pretty bad for you. Fake coloring additives are also horrible for you
"Literally and everyone are way overused."
Agreed... and by literally everyone.
Back to the Future: might be an opportunity for Coors and Camel to market their wares as "nutritional supplements" to do an end run on the advertising restriction regs.
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Nicotine is actually good for cognitive health, it's the smoking that's bad for you.
“Stubbing my toe on the coffee table is bad”
“IMO, cutting off your toe is way worse”
Ps. Nothing is “bad”. Actions do have consequences though.
Nicotine on the whole is terrible for you. Terrible for cardiovascular system.
Health issues aside, it's always been mind boggling to me that people pay $3-4 per can for these energy drinks. Couple hundred a month to stay caffeinated is insane.
Target audience right there.
I have heard Phil Nicholetti state multiple times that when he raced for JGR's MX team, JGR would offer their NASCAR sponsor partners free signage on the MX/SX team and most sponsors refused. Many, many people associate dirt bikes and riding with back flippers, heinous injuries, negative environmental impacts, and intrusive noise. There can be no denying that. As a sport we have had literally decades to address these issues and have done virtually nothing, even going backwards in some respects. How many moms want junior to ride after watching countless riders not finish a season racing or splattering themselves to bits in a "freestyle" competition, people bitch about noise - we buy and ride four strokes, heavier bikes, more aggressive tires, disc brakes, more HP/torque - add to trail impact. People have been bitching about off road motorcycling and their negative impact for decades and instead of addressing people's very real concerns, we label the concerned as assholes or unreasonable. Meanwhile, quads, UTVs, snowmobiles, and horse enthusiast unite and address concerns and have the trails/riding areas to show for it. Down vote all you want, the biggest enemy to our sport is us, our pro racing is hard to get sponsorship because of the image we all project.
It was hyperbole. How about this, A LOT of people drink them.
So you're saying that the 4 stroke UTVs & Quads don't have a negative impact. Do you realize how many drunk hill billies are out trail riding in 1000cc turbo machines destroying trails and land. They are 4 stroke motors, loud, disc brakes, 4 wheels vs 2, more HP/Torque. I just don't understand your statement implying dirtbikes do more harm then these dumb machines.
I would bet there is more death's on ATVs and UTVs per year.
So pro sponsorship is difficult to attain at the highest levels because of disc brakes and subsequent trail impact? Just trying to draw a direct line here. I would counter point that "outsiders" that are controlling budgets have looked at past engagement numbers and decided it wasn't a worthwhile spend. That's been an ongoing challenge that is being worked on daily from what I see. Decision makers want eyeballs, TAM, and growth metrics. I don't think many corporate marketing managers are factoring in trail impact to their SX/MX/SMX decisions.
Having said that, doing as much as possible to keep riding lands open benefits everyone. I think that's one of the coolest aspects of the Stark is that you could ride it in your backyard without anyone being the wiser.
I used to drink a can a day in the morning (I do not like coffee). I preferred sugar free Redbull, but would drink Rockstar because they were more convenient by the case where I would buy them. I did this for probably 5 years and I began to have prostate problems which at the time, we had no idea what was causing it. I know there is only a handful of guys here that have ever had prostatis or know what prostate pain feels like (and the bathroom frequency), but it radiates to other parts of your body like your back, your abdomen, nuts, all around, pain in places you didn't even know could hurt, it makes you wonder if you are dying from the inside out where you do not want to start the dying LOL. I spent way too much time and money with doctor visits and tests, taking awful antibiotics for months with no results. I finally started doing my own research and found that concentrated amounts of caffeine or alcohol can harm your prostate. I decided to cut out energy drinks and felt miraculously better within a few weeks, I was shocked and obviously pleased at the same time.
I know most people do not have problems with energy drinks, and I think there may be a certain amount of people that may be having problems and do not realize the source. I used to love the wake-up I would get from an energy drink, but I can say with 100% certainty, they are awful for you. I kind of see them like a cigarette - 100 years ago we had no idea what health issues they were going to cause, and fast forward to today, we have learned a lot and know the risks. There is a lot of shit in energy drinks, I think there will be a lot to learn.
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