No ride for Ferrandis?

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10/24/2023 7:56pm

Id take a cranky, whining, bitchin and moaning podium rider over a 8th place 40 seconds off the pace nice guy any day.

#FactoryRideForFrenchie or I cancel my Peacock!

(Ok im just kidding but come on...)

 

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10/24/2023 7:59pm

DF to HEP Suzuki, heard this was signed.   Maybe my source was incorrect.

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Zoom wrote:

Factory Connection Kawasaki 450 along with another rider. 

brocster wrote:

Hope there is some meat on this bone. 

I would absolutely love if this rumor were true. 

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10/24/2023 8:09pm

He's not really a fan favorite after punting Christian Craig off the track and for social media post about Barcia when the video showed a totally different story. 

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10/24/2023 8:10pm Edited Date/Time 10/25/2023 8:41am
MXMattii wrote:
DV went prepping his kid for NCAA D3 basketball, while DF was hurt. To me it always looked like DV didn't stay in touch with his...

DV went prepping his kid for NCAA D3 basketball, while DF was hurt. To me it always looked like DV didn't stay in touch with his rider, (his boss in some way) to hear how his health and rehabilitation was going, if making schedules was already possible or not...

I know DV is very popular here but he threw Pourcel under the bus too, because MotoConcepts was DV his employer. But little later everyone including him accepted that the YZ450 was rubbish because James Stewart and others started saying the same. Also DV and Cristian Craig didn't last long.

But to be honest it baffles me that French and Euro-riders always get labeled as crybabies, especially the ones who win championships. Because your own riders such as Webb and also Sexton weren't they saying the same about their bikes? The double moral in that kind of stories is a little sickening. If Dylan clicks with his future bike, he can fight for podiums in Supercross and win the championship in Motocross. Dylan is bye the way already 7 years in the USA and only rode for one team and that is Star Yamaha, probably because he is a real pain in the ass to work with...

Let’s get some stuff straight because you’re losing yourself.

1. I’m my own boss. If a MX coach acts like the rider is the boss, the relationship will last but the results won’t come. In any sport, the athletes aren’t the coaches’ boss. It’s the other way around, buddy

2. Pourcel threw himself under the bus (or shot himself in the foot) and not only at MotoConcepts. With the talent we had in 2011, Chiz, THahn & Cie, the results & the bike weren’t as bad as everyone thinks. Chiz was riding well until he snapped a chain in Houston and Tommy, when he wanted to race without worrying about everything else, rode good too.

3. It didn’t last with Christian because I never got to do what I wanted to do. I was only the riding coach and had no pull on anything else. I walked away because I wasn’t able to be a factor. Could’ve stayed, be buddy/buddy with everyone and cash the paychecks but it’s not my style. 

4. Dylan is the only rider who followed my vison from A to Z. When we started working together I told him I’ll coach him for free for 3 months. If he followed the program to the T and if he thought it was working, after 3 months, we would sit down and work on a deal. My first deal with Dylan was $2500 a month and 5% of his Yamaha bonuses. He wanted to give me 10%, I told him half was enough. The last year was $5k a month + 5%. To put in perspective, some factory guys pay their coaches $200k+ a year plus bonuses.

5. As far as training my son during the summer when my rider is hurt, I think it’s ok when I know my rider is out for at least 8 weeks. 

6. We’re in America and we have to be politically correct when it comes to the people who are signing the checks. It’s ok to be demanding about the equipment behind closed doors but it never works publicly. Americans are better at it than French people. We have a different culture and are not educated to be corporate friendly. Webb was critical and he and KTM split halfway thru the MX season which you hardly don’t see in our sport. 

7. Dylan not finding a good ride in ‘24 is a cocktail of multiple things. First one is to have signed only one year at the end of 2022. He bet on himself to be able to find somewhere potentially better in 24 if he’d perform in 23 but obviously didn’t work. He only podiumed twice in 51 potential SX races. He didn’t race 51 SX due to injuries but to other teams it’s still 2 podiums in 3 seasons. Lastly, it’s budget and value. When you have 4 championships, 2 250SX, 1 250MX and 1 450MX, your value should be between a 450SX champion and a factory rider who never won a race. I wouldn’t race and risk my health for less than that especially when you have millions in the bank. We should respect that from a multi-time champion. Some past champions paid from their own pocket to race, like Reed for exemple, but we should respect champions who think it’s not worth signing a deal and racing for no money. Some do it, great. Some don’t, it should be fine too. Who are we to judge what they should do or earn?

8. Lastly, I’m really proud of what Dylan have accomplished in the US and it was cool to be part of it. It’s extremely difficult to move halfway across the world and perform in the toughest championships on the planet. Yes, I believe it’s tougher to be American champion in 450 SX or MX than in the GPs when you’re an European. Americans or the foreigners who are winning in the US, are tough to beat. Just like it’s tough to be World Champion when you’re American. Ask RV… So, what Dylan accomplished is pretty amazing. 

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10/24/2023 8:10pm

Ferrandis started getting better and better this past season. He was making noticeable progress. Any team that takes him will have a healthy, fast top 5 contender. So… we’ll see

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dv12.com wrote:
Let’s get some stuff straight because you’re losing yourself. 1. I’m my own boss. If a MX coach acts like the rider is the boss, the...

Let’s get some stuff straight because you’re losing yourself.

1. I’m my own boss. If a MX coach acts like the rider is the boss, the relationship will last but the results won’t come. In any sport, the athletes aren’t the coaches’ boss. It’s the other way around, buddy

2. Pourcel threw himself under the bus (or shot himself in the foot) and not only at MotoConcepts. With the talent we had in 2011, Chiz, THahn & Cie, the results & the bike weren’t as bad as everyone thinks. Chiz was riding well until he snapped a chain in Houston and Tommy, when he wanted to race without worrying about everything else, rode good too.

3. It didn’t last with Christian because I never got to do what I wanted to do. I was only the riding coach and had no pull on anything else. I walked away because I wasn’t able to be a factor. Could’ve stayed, be buddy/buddy with everyone and cash the paychecks but it’s not my style. 

4. Dylan is the only rider who followed my vison from A to Z. When we started working together I told him I’ll coach him for free for 3 months. If he followed the program to the T and if he thought it was working, after 3 months, we would sit down and work on a deal. My first deal with Dylan was $2500 a month and 5% of his Yamaha bonuses. He wanted to give me 10%, I told him half was enough. The last year was $5k a month + 5%. To put in perspective, some factory guys pay their coaches $200k+ a year plus bonuses.

5. As far as training my son during the summer when my rider is hurt, I think it’s ok when I know my rider is out for at least 8 weeks. 

6. We’re in America and we have to be politically correct when it comes to the people who are signing the checks. It’s ok to be demanding about the equipment behind closed doors but it never works publicly. Americans are better at it than French people. We have a different culture and are not educated to be corporate friendly. Webb was critical and he and KTM split halfway thru the MX season which you hardly don’t see in our sport. 

7. Dylan not finding a good ride in ‘24 is a cocktail of multiple things. First one is to have signed only one year at the end of 2022. He bet on himself to be able to find somewhere potentially better in 24 if he’d perform in 23 but obviously didn’t work. He only podiumed twice in 51 potential SX races. He didn’t race 51 SX due to injuries but to other teams it’s still 2 podiums in 3 seasons. Lastly, it’s budget and value. When you have 4 championships, 2 250SX, 1 250MX and 1 450MX, your value should be between a 450SX champion and a factory rider who never won a race. I wouldn’t race and risk my health for less than that especially when you have millions in the bank. We should respect that from a multi-time champion. Some past champions paid from their own pocket to race, like Reed for exemple, but we should respect champions who think it’s not worth signing a deal and racing for no money. Some do it, great. Some don’t, it should be fine too. Who are we to judge what they should do or earn?

8. Lastly, I’m really proud of what Dylan have accomplished in the US and it was cool to be part of it. It’s extremely difficult to move halfway across the world and perform in the toughest championships on the planet. Yes, I believe it’s tougher to be American champion in 450 SX or MX than in the GPs when you’re an European. Americans or the foreigners who are winning in the US, are tough to beat. Just like it’s tough to be World Champion when you’re American. Ask RV… So, what Dylan accomplished is pretty amazing. 

Ce qui s'appelle remettre l'église au milieu du village! 

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dv12.com wrote:
Let’s get some stuff straight because you’re losing yourself. 1. I’m my own boss. If a MX coach acts like the rider is the boss, the...

Let’s get some stuff straight because you’re losing yourself.

1. I’m my own boss. If a MX coach acts like the rider is the boss, the relationship will last but the results won’t come. In any sport, the athletes aren’t the coaches’ boss. It’s the other way around, buddy

2. Pourcel threw himself under the bus (or shot himself in the foot) and not only at MotoConcepts. With the talent we had in 2011, Chiz, THahn & Cie, the results & the bike weren’t as bad as everyone thinks. Chiz was riding well until he snapped a chain in Houston and Tommy, when he wanted to race without worrying about everything else, rode good too.

3. It didn’t last with Christian because I never got to do what I wanted to do. I was only the riding coach and had no pull on anything else. I walked away because I wasn’t able to be a factor. Could’ve stayed, be buddy/buddy with everyone and cash the paychecks but it’s not my style. 

4. Dylan is the only rider who followed my vison from A to Z. When we started working together I told him I’ll coach him for free for 3 months. If he followed the program to the T and if he thought it was working, after 3 months, we would sit down and work on a deal. My first deal with Dylan was $2500 a month and 5% of his Yamaha bonuses. He wanted to give me 10%, I told him half was enough. The last year was $5k a month + 5%. To put in perspective, some factory guys pay their coaches $200k+ a year plus bonuses.

5. As far as training my son during the summer when my rider is hurt, I think it’s ok when I know my rider is out for at least 8 weeks. 

6. We’re in America and we have to be politically correct when it comes to the people who are signing the checks. It’s ok to be demanding about the equipment behind closed doors but it never works publicly. Americans are better at it than French people. We have a different culture and are not educated to be corporate friendly. Webb was critical and he and KTM split halfway thru the MX season which you hardly don’t see in our sport. 

7. Dylan not finding a good ride in ‘24 is a cocktail of multiple things. First one is to have signed only one year at the end of 2022. He bet on himself to be able to find somewhere potentially better in 24 if he’d perform in 23 but obviously didn’t work. He only podiumed twice in 51 potential SX races. He didn’t race 51 SX due to injuries but to other teams it’s still 2 podiums in 3 seasons. Lastly, it’s budget and value. When you have 4 championships, 2 250SX, 1 250MX and 1 450MX, your value should be between a 450SX champion and a factory rider who never won a race. I wouldn’t race and risk my health for less than that especially when you have millions in the bank. We should respect that from a multi-time champion. Some past champions paid from their own pocket to race, like Reed for exemple, but we should respect champions who think it’s not worth signing a deal and racing for no money. Some do it, great. Some don’t, it should be fine too. Who are we to judge what they should do or earn?

8. Lastly, I’m really proud of what Dylan have accomplished in the US and it was cool to be part of it. It’s extremely difficult to move halfway across the world and perform in the toughest championships on the planet. Yes, I believe it’s tougher to be American champion in 450 SX or MX than in the GPs when you’re an European. Americans or the foreigners who are winning in the US, are tough to beat. Just like it’s tough to be World Champion when you’re American. Ask RV… So, what Dylan accomplished is pretty amazing. 

Great information, knowledge and opinions DV!!!

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10/25/2023 2:27am

So, rumors continue to bring 3 possibilities for DF next year : HEP Suzuki, Phoenix Honda and Factory Connection (Kawasaki or Honda).

Where is the truth ?

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10/25/2023 7:18am Edited Date/Time 10/25/2023 7:19am

Ha, I knew DV would chime in and clear things up. I love when he posts in here. Sounds like it remains a mystery why Dylan ghosted him when they worked so well together and won 3 titles. 

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10/25/2023 7:20am

I heard that Florida's own Kevin Sherman got the HEP ride.

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10/25/2023 7:30am

While I wonder if DF is a difficult rider, I don't think he is lazy or not putting the work in.  He seems highly motivated and gets back in shape after setbacks.  I wonder if it is just a cultural difference that makes it a harder fit.  It is not necessarily a right and wrong situation, if he was on a french team he might fit in fine and they would understand his point of view from there lens on the world.  But in the US it might not translate correctly.  But I do think Dylan is a hard worker and I like watching him, he is a bit of a scrapper and I like that.

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10/25/2023 7:46am
HonDawg17 wrote:
I'm seriously surprised Kawi couldn't make a deal happen. I'd give half of AC's salary to DF to get what he's probably asking for. All teams...

I'm seriously surprised Kawi couldn't make a deal happen. I'd give half of AC's salary to DF to get what he's probably asking for. All teams are really missing an opportunity with DF right now. I don't get it. Hopefully the Factory Connection Honda deal is a real thing and comes together in time for the Paris SX.

mxb2 wrote:

Why adjust ac contract, he is already signed in.   Maybe dylan could lower his price tag and a incentive win ,results clause. 

Because AC hasn't been worth his salary since 2020... Brutal but true.

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10/25/2023 7:52am
HonDawg17 wrote:
I'm seriously surprised Kawi couldn't make a deal happen. I'd give half of AC's salary to DF to get what he's probably asking for. All teams...

I'm seriously surprised Kawi couldn't make a deal happen. I'd give half of AC's salary to DF to get what he's probably asking for. All teams are really missing an opportunity with DF right now. I don't get it. Hopefully the Factory Connection Honda deal is a real thing and comes together in time for the Paris SX.

mxb2 wrote:

Why adjust ac contract, he is already signed in.   Maybe dylan could lower his price tag and a incentive win ,results clause. 

HonDawg17 wrote:

Because AC hasn't been worth his salary since 2020... Brutal but true.

Ac is already locked in 

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10/25/2023 7:52am

I really hope he gets a ride for 2024, even if its just for outdoors....

Come '24MX I see 5 guys crowding the podium : JL1, ET3, CS4, KR94 and DF14 (no idea about HL96 yet). Could be one for the ages, or it could be JL1 undefeated part 2 (back to back).

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10/25/2023 7:55am
HonDawg17 wrote:

Because AC hasn't been worth his salary since 2020... Brutal but true.

Why would AC agree to this?

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10/25/2023 7:58am Edited Date/Time 10/25/2023 7:59am

DV's posts are absolute fucking gold.

No ass kissing but the level of understanding and knowledge is so deep but still to the point that it's always a great read.

Also agree with people that Dylan could still do some damage outdoors and who knows how he could progress with more hours in 450 SX.

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HonDawg17 wrote:

Because AC hasn't been worth his salary since 2020... Brutal but true.

soggy wrote:

Why would AC agree to this?

Exactly. Lol ., not.his fault.  

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Richy wrote:
DV's posts are absolute fucking gold. No ass kissing but the level of understanding and knowledge is so deep but still to the point that it's...

DV's posts are absolute fucking gold.

No ass kissing but the level of understanding and knowledge is so deep but still to the point that it's always a great read.

Also agree with people that Dylan could still do some damage outdoors and who knows how he could progress with more hours in 450 SX.

100% agree, it's the best when he comes in and offers his knowledge and insight. The guy has lived it and is still in the know. It sure beats reading pages of speculations, guessing and general misinformation. Thank you DV!

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10/25/2023 8:28am

Wonder if DV has any real insight as to whether Dylan indeed has a ride in the making...or if he is planning to blow it all off and call it a day.

Great commentary by DV though, as usual. 

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10/25/2023 8:45am Edited Date/Time 10/25/2023 10:45am
davistld01 wrote:
Wonder if DV has any real insight as to whether Dylan indeed has a ride in the making...or if he is planning to blow it all...

Wonder if DV has any real insight as to whether Dylan indeed has a ride in the making...or if he is planning to blow it all off and call it a day.

Great commentary by DV though, as usual. 

I truly have no idea or insight on what Dylan is going to do. I’m out of the loop. Like you guys, I’ll wait for the instagram post with the photo with his new team shirt in front of a white wall or the retirement announcement… 

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10/25/2023 8:55am
davistld01 wrote:
Wonder if DV has any real insight as to whether Dylan indeed has a ride in the making...or if he is planning to blow it all...

Wonder if DV has any real insight as to whether Dylan indeed has a ride in the making...or if he is planning to blow it all off and call it a day.

Great commentary by DV though, as usual. 

dv12.com wrote:
I truly have no idea or insight on what Dylan is going to do. I’m out of the loop. Like you guys, I’ll wait for the...

I truly have no idea or insight on what Dylan is going to do. I’m out of the loop. Like you guys, I’ll wait for the instagram post with the photo with his new team shirt in front of a white wall or the retirement announcement… 

How shocking would it be if he ended up on a yellow bike? 

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10/25/2023 8:57am
dv12.com wrote:
I truly have no idea or insight on what Dylan is going to do. I’m out of the loop. Like you guys, I’ll wait for the...

I truly have no idea or insight on what Dylan is going to do. I’m out of the loop. Like you guys, I’ll wait for the instagram post with the photo with his new team shirt in front of a white wall or the retirement announcement… 

Lets hope retirement finally wont happen...

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10/25/2023 9:06am Edited Date/Time 10/25/2023 9:10am
kxking wrote:
I really hope he gets a ride for 2024, even if its just for outdoors.... Come '24MX I see 5 guys crowding the podium : JL1...

I really hope he gets a ride for 2024, even if its just for outdoors....

Come '24MX I see 5 guys crowding the podium : JL1, ET3, CS4, KR94 and DF14 (no idea about HL96 yet). Could be one for the ages, or it could be JL1 undefeated part 2 (back to back).

Doubt Kenny rides Outdoors, except for 1-2 rounds again. The current schedule worked pretty well for him and I expect him to do the same next year. SX + maybe 1-2 rounds of Outdoors, SMX and whatever WSX decides to do. Tomac so far is Supercross only, hopefully he decides to go for Outdoors aswell though. 

But yeah, Ferrandis needs to be in there, for sure. 2021 Ferrandis is still one of the fastest guys we have seen in the last years, that guy is a threat.

 

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10/25/2023 9:37am
HonDawg17 wrote:

Because AC hasn't been worth his salary since 2020... Brutal but true.

soggy wrote:

Why would AC agree to this?

83ssqc

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It's difficult to choose a team, after having claimed the best bike in the AMA, I believe that no other bike will be up to it...

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dv12.com wrote:
Let’s get some stuff straight because you’re losing yourself. 1. I’m my own boss. If a MX coach acts like the rider is the boss, the...

Let’s get some stuff straight because you’re losing yourself.

1. I’m my own boss. If a MX coach acts like the rider is the boss, the relationship will last but the results won’t come. In any sport, the athletes aren’t the coaches’ boss. It’s the other way around, buddy

2. Pourcel threw himself under the bus (or shot himself in the foot) and not only at MotoConcepts. With the talent we had in 2011, Chiz, THahn & Cie, the results & the bike weren’t as bad as everyone thinks. Chiz was riding well until he snapped a chain in Houston and Tommy, when he wanted to race without worrying about everything else, rode good too.

3. It didn’t last with Christian because I never got to do what I wanted to do. I was only the riding coach and had no pull on anything else. I walked away because I wasn’t able to be a factor. Could’ve stayed, be buddy/buddy with everyone and cash the paychecks but it’s not my style. 

4. Dylan is the only rider who followed my vison from A to Z. When we started working together I told him I’ll coach him for free for 3 months. If he followed the program to the T and if he thought it was working, after 3 months, we would sit down and work on a deal. My first deal with Dylan was $2500 a month and 5% of his Yamaha bonuses. He wanted to give me 10%, I told him half was enough. The last year was $5k a month + 5%. To put in perspective, some factory guys pay their coaches $200k+ a year plus bonuses.

5. As far as training my son during the summer when my rider is hurt, I think it’s ok when I know my rider is out for at least 8 weeks. 

6. We’re in America and we have to be politically correct when it comes to the people who are signing the checks. It’s ok to be demanding about the equipment behind closed doors but it never works publicly. Americans are better at it than French people. We have a different culture and are not educated to be corporate friendly. Webb was critical and he and KTM split halfway thru the MX season which you hardly don’t see in our sport. 

7. Dylan not finding a good ride in ‘24 is a cocktail of multiple things. First one is to have signed only one year at the end of 2022. He bet on himself to be able to find somewhere potentially better in 24 if he’d perform in 23 but obviously didn’t work. He only podiumed twice in 51 potential SX races. He didn’t race 51 SX due to injuries but to other teams it’s still 2 podiums in 3 seasons. Lastly, it’s budget and value. When you have 4 championships, 2 250SX, 1 250MX and 1 450MX, your value should be between a 450SX champion and a factory rider who never won a race. I wouldn’t race and risk my health for less than that especially when you have millions in the bank. We should respect that from a multi-time champion. Some past champions paid from their own pocket to race, like Reed for exemple, but we should respect champions who think it’s not worth signing a deal and racing for no money. Some do it, great. Some don’t, it should be fine too. Who are we to judge what they should do or earn?

8. Lastly, I’m really proud of what Dylan have accomplished in the US and it was cool to be part of it. It’s extremely difficult to move halfway across the world and perform in the toughest championships on the planet. Yes, I believe it’s tougher to be American champion in 450 SX or MX than in the GPs when you’re an European. Americans or the foreigners who are winning in the US, are tough to beat. Just like it’s tough to be World Champion when you’re American. Ask RV… So, what Dylan accomplished is pretty amazing. 

5. Did you keep in touch with your rider while training your son?

PS: Don't think I've said much wrong 💋

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Okay…while we are stroking DV let me get mine in.  I have always been a fan and even though I sometimes(rarely) don’t agree with something posted he has always been someone I wanted to hear from.  I’m glad he posts here!   As for when he was a rider he was always very kind to me as a fan.  I was at many races with insider friends and, maybe because I previously lived for a while in France and speak french, he was more than cool to me.  He was an amazing rider and if you haven’t lived in a foreign country speaking a different language then you can’t know how hard that can be at times.  Especially in a spotlight like these riders live with.  Thanks DV

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HonDawg17 wrote:

Because AC hasn't been worth his salary since 2020... Brutal but true.

soggy wrote:

Why would AC agree to this?

GrapeApe wrote:

83ssqc

Well it did come from the same guy that called Stanton a C rider and that he could ride better....so there's that 😂

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dv12.com wrote:
Let’s get some stuff straight because you’re losing yourself. 1. I’m my own boss. If a MX coach acts like the rider is the boss, the...

Let’s get some stuff straight because you’re losing yourself.

1. I’m my own boss. If a MX coach acts like the rider is the boss, the relationship will last but the results won’t come. In any sport, the athletes aren’t the coaches’ boss. It’s the other way around, buddy

2. Pourcel threw himself under the bus (or shot himself in the foot) and not only at MotoConcepts. With the talent we had in 2011, Chiz, THahn & Cie, the results & the bike weren’t as bad as everyone thinks. Chiz was riding well until he snapped a chain in Houston and Tommy, when he wanted to race without worrying about everything else, rode good too.

3. It didn’t last with Christian because I never got to do what I wanted to do. I was only the riding coach and had no pull on anything else. I walked away because I wasn’t able to be a factor. Could’ve stayed, be buddy/buddy with everyone and cash the paychecks but it’s not my style. 

4. Dylan is the only rider who followed my vison from A to Z. When we started working together I told him I’ll coach him for free for 3 months. If he followed the program to the T and if he thought it was working, after 3 months, we would sit down and work on a deal. My first deal with Dylan was $2500 a month and 5% of his Yamaha bonuses. He wanted to give me 10%, I told him half was enough. The last year was $5k a month + 5%. To put in perspective, some factory guys pay their coaches $200k+ a year plus bonuses.

5. As far as training my son during the summer when my rider is hurt, I think it’s ok when I know my rider is out for at least 8 weeks. 

6. We’re in America and we have to be politically correct when it comes to the people who are signing the checks. It’s ok to be demanding about the equipment behind closed doors but it never works publicly. Americans are better at it than French people. We have a different culture and are not educated to be corporate friendly. Webb was critical and he and KTM split halfway thru the MX season which you hardly don’t see in our sport. 

7. Dylan not finding a good ride in ‘24 is a cocktail of multiple things. First one is to have signed only one year at the end of 2022. He bet on himself to be able to find somewhere potentially better in 24 if he’d perform in 23 but obviously didn’t work. He only podiumed twice in 51 potential SX races. He didn’t race 51 SX due to injuries but to other teams it’s still 2 podiums in 3 seasons. Lastly, it’s budget and value. When you have 4 championships, 2 250SX, 1 250MX and 1 450MX, your value should be between a 450SX champion and a factory rider who never won a race. I wouldn’t race and risk my health for less than that especially when you have millions in the bank. We should respect that from a multi-time champion. Some past champions paid from their own pocket to race, like Reed for exemple, but we should respect champions who think it’s not worth signing a deal and racing for no money. Some do it, great. Some don’t, it should be fine too. Who are we to judge what they should do or earn?

8. Lastly, I’m really proud of what Dylan have accomplished in the US and it was cool to be part of it. It’s extremely difficult to move halfway across the world and perform in the toughest championships on the planet. Yes, I believe it’s tougher to be American champion in 450 SX or MX than in the GPs when you’re an European. Americans or the foreigners who are winning in the US, are tough to beat. Just like it’s tough to be World Champion when you’re American. Ask RV… So, what Dylan accomplished is pretty amazing. 

MXMattii wrote:

5. Did you keep in touch with your rider while training your son?

PS: Don't think I've said much wrong 💋

Journalist: "Are you still working with DV?"

DF: "I don't know. I have no news from DV since my crash, he didn't call me."

Journalist: "And you didn't call him?"

DF: "No."

 

Journalist: "Are you still working with DF?"

DV: "I don't know."

Journalist: "You're not in touch?"

DV: "He's got my number, he can call me if he needs me."

 

Sometimes, old couples get a divorce. Maybe it's for the best.

 

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