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RC crashed his brains out in 99' , missed time, and came into 2000 fresh off a broken collar bone. RD broke his neck.
Sometimes things happen.
The man has the most gp wins in history, and in my opinion is still the fastest mx racer on the planet right now. went 1-1- at ironman on a bike different than what he was used to. Think anyone right now in the states would win lommel? 450 or 250 class? I don't.
Cmon RC and Dunge? Yes, sometimes things happen. But using RC and Dunge to make your point? They were nearly bulletproof. RC never missed an outdoor season. And Dungey missed just one I believe. Sometimes things happen. But when they happen over and over, it's called a pattern
I know he’s still building back from his injury and I really haven’t watched much GP this year, more so just highlights so I can’t exactly speak for this year, but I’ve can’t really remember JH maintaining a 5-10 second lead and bringing it home like that. I always think of him as riding hard from start to finish. But I’ve been wrong before and I’ll be wrong again.
I think you may have misread what I was saying. JH usually has quite a bit more speed than the guys he’s racing. I’m not saying be as fast as Jett. Hell, I’m not even a Jett fan and if you look through my post history you’ll see that. I’m saying he’s faster than his competition and I don’t believe JH has to ride at 100% to beat Prado, Seewer, Coldehoff or any others.
Lars was on a podcast talking about Jett during supercross and how he works to get to the front and maintain a small lead rather than try to win by a huge margin since winning by 5-10 seconds is no different than winning by 30 seconds. JH can do the exact same thing in my eyes.
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Except he is " That good". He can have days on an MX track , that out of 8 billion people on this planet....not one of them could beat him.
He hauls ass in on a bike , and when he goes down , he goes down hard. The dude puts everything into trying to win. If you or anyone tries to diminish that , than either you're clueless , or just plain stupid.
Please, if you have to squabble about who's faster, leave Jett out of it.
The fight if I recall, has always been between the USA and the Euros.
Its a stretch ill admit. but several of RC's greatest wrecks could have been serious injuries too, an element of luck was definitely at play.
Some guys I suppose are just more injury prone. I stand by what I said regarding his speed though.. I think him, and jago are the fastest guys in their respective classes.
Never once stated he was a bad rider. He can ride the wheels off a bike. Just personally for me he’s not a favorite. Also don’t like his attitude…. I know he’s a fan favorite just not mine.
Out is out and Prado is doing what needs to be done. Getting great starts as always, putting sprint laps in and making everyone push. Mistakes happen. It’s his to lose
Nobody gave you props for this fine cast, so I'll acknowledge its greatness.
Herlings on the other hand has hit a moment that I find interesting. He had lightning speed but in his later years has not found a way to stay off the ground and at some point his speed will take a hit.
Great dude who is brilliant in his own right and it just makes what Everts, Cairolli, RC, such a monumental achievement. To be able to stay injury free and rack up 9 and 10 titles is amazing
The point is 450 wins should have more weight to them.
I will compare 2 riders. There could be better examples but I'm going to use.
Jeremy Martin vs Ken roczen???
Who is a better mx racer??
J-mart has 2 titles and 20 overalls (all 250)
Kenny has 2 titles and 23 overalls. But 21 of those wins are 450.
(I didn't think about mxgp before typing this which will weight to Kenny. So let's just compare ama stats)
JMart was better on 250s in his prime.
Roczen was better on 450s in his prime.
This year Herlings has not tried to go balls out.
You really summed it up. I think it's really a genetic thing. Some guys just break when they crash. A crash that RC got back up after and kept going immediately would have resulted in an injury for JH
In the race that Herlings got hurt he was 16pts down on Prado, and Prado was 1-2 seconds behind him. 16pts is a lot when you consider that Prado has had the red plate pretty much all season and pretty much hole shots every race. Herlings last injury was during a photoshoot. I think you're right about young Herlings but a big issue with him is that he's made of glass. If he had this crash whike leading by 20 seconds I'd have to agree with you but this one doesn't fit that narrative IMO.
RC has admitted many times he moved up too early. SX in the premier class in only your 3rd year as a pro is a lot, especially for him pre-Aldon. He came into the 99MX season amazing as always though and stayed on the 125 there. Dungey had the one crash where he fractured his vertebrae and another in SX training. I think a collarbone there. That’s it. Has Herlings ever put 3 seasons consecutively together without missing time?
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I honestly can't remember Jeffrey crashing out of a lead before. I'm sure it's happened, but nothing stands out... And maybe he's done it and still gone onto win the race, but to say he gets injured because he 'races' too fast is just wrong
Man that sux.
That fucking sucks. Dude is so unlucky.
And you cant even spell his fucking name
I used to kinda roll my eyes a little when people would say he was unlucky but I don't know anymore.. The last few crashes have come from nowhere and he's copped full consequence from them..
I've joked in the past that maybe he angered the MX gods by staying in mx2 for so long to get his GP wins up.. (It is just a joke I don't mean it I don't wanna start that tired old argument again haha)
Would be great to see some respect for one of the most impressive riders of our era. Yeah, he's has some crazy misfortune, but, there's few riders out there that can inspire the fans to the level he can. Some say he's cocky, but hell, he's no damn robot, I love the fact he talks, at times, like one of us... it's great. Some of you guys might remember JS7 being a little cocky, but also the faces he made at the end of a post race interview, priceless. We need more of it!
Remember, a few years ago, Jeffrey was landed on, from high above. Brutal, but, even with a broken shoulder blade, WON the race. This weekend, seems to be reported a fractured vertebrata in his neck. He gained a championship point, over stopping to check his health. Respect. Anyone that says anything bad about this incredible athlete, is a fool.
Hats off to the great man, all the best for a fast and full recovery.
Racing is better when Herlings is in. Lets hope he comes back one more time.
Man what a bummer for Herlings, he can’t seem to catch a break. Seewer crashes harder than that seemingly every race and he’s always fine but for some reason whenever Jeffrey hits the ground he gets hurt. It sucks because I feel like he really never pushed all that hard this year and was mainly focused on staying healthy and being there in the end to win it.
Hoping for a speedy recovery for The Bullet
Can somebody translate what he said in his instagram story ? I believe about shiny weekend in germany
Anybody arguing Herlings doesn't ride over his head to "Dominate" and it causes crashes & injuries at many times in his career is either misinformed or paid to post. The "Bullet" nickname, and self-described "Fasted Man on the Planet" title has probably cost him a few titles.
All his crashes...No
All his injuries...No
A sizeable portion...Obviously Yes.
Some of You Americans are really ignorant, does it matter who is the healthiest or does it matter who has the best results. The man has the record most Grand Prix wins in history Has won 5 world titles has beaten all of the Americans starting from last position.. and still some talk shit now that’s funny
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