The Deegan Bike Claim Story - Part 1, 2, and 3 | UPDATE: Brennan's Sponsor Responds | Schofield, Cotter, Burkeen, Deegan, Luce, and Walker

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Brennan totally lied and said was just him and Tim Cotter and Brian Deegan in room and never mention Mike from the ama was I’m That...
Brennan totally lied and said was just him and Tim Cotter and Brian Deegan in room and never mention Mike from the ama was I’m That room in all his interviews and that was Mike that let Brian Deegan in
USA wrote:
What about Brian Deegan lying about not knowing there was a claim rule even though he has threatened to claim bikes in the past? Does that...
What about Brian Deegan lying about not knowing there was a claim rule even though he has threatened to claim bikes in the past? Does that mean Deegan is potentially lying about everything and you should focus on that?
DonM wrote:
When did he do that and who said that? Because none of the four in the room have said that he said that…
7:35 in Tyler Livesay's interview, Brennan says "he [Deegan] said he didn't know it was a rule"

https://youtu.be/8ZkJU8-IxMY

David Pingree confirmed that Deegan has threatened to claim bikes in the past, with about 10 minutes left in this video

https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChQ1SUrr7JL/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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8/16/2022 11:19am
I can’t get past the meeting in whatever room happened with however many people were there for however many minutes. By all accounts it happened. By...
I can’t get past the meeting in whatever room happened with however many people were there for however many minutes. By all accounts it happened. By all accounts it was adults asking a minor questions that didn’t need to be asked. Just the fact that this happened was the beginning of the pressure campaign. And it was inappropriate.
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able to talk to Tim Cotter, Mike from AMA and Brian Deegan for 2-5mins about said bike he wants to claim?
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DC, a true steward of the sport. A virtual walking encyclopedia of knowledge and information, then 2022 happened. With exception of the excellent racing on the track, the last year or three have been rough on DC. At least he takes great sign pics.

None of this shit show happens if they just gave up the bike.

Does Yamaha save face? There was a time in Japanese tradition when, if an individual or group's conduct or behavior was an embarrassment to the company, they backed away and would cut ties with everyone involved to save face. I wonder if that will happen here or if it's even enough to be a concern to a company as big as Yamaha?

Elsewhere someone called Matthes a sellout. C’mon, of course he is. To be successful we all are to some extent, as long as he stays away from politics I will continue to listen & laugh at his (& Swaps & Pings) free content and contribute to the PulpMX privateer challenge.

JT is solid, well-spoken, and smart. He stayed neutral, on point, had a well-articulated opinion plus, he’s the best pit reporter we’ve had. Just close the interviews, please.

ML deserves a trophy. The owners of Vital scored when Michael decided to ditch the riches and dazzling highlife of being a team owner and return to media.

Should Haiden pull an RV and ditch his dad? Brian, IMO, is becoming a distraction.

A few of the guys interviewed need to go the way of Steve Whitlock and Keith McCarty.

I’ve spent waaaaaaay too much time on this. It affects me zero and only reinforces my personal opinion of most of everyone involved.

And ML, if we can’t get an automatic ban on someone who gets an excessive amount of downvotes in a 24-hour period can we get an ignore button? Asking for a friend.

Enough, let me know how it ends.
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ga_pike wrote:
I do hope the interview with the dealer discusses the current state of their relationship. It appears, from my understanding, that Brennan has lost the support...
I do hope the interview with the dealer discusses the current state of their relationship. It appears, from my understanding, that Brennan has lost the support of said dealer and has cut ties with Moto X Compound. What else did he have to lose by keeping the claim and getting the bike? I don't think his other sponsors would have dropped him had he gone through with it.
Yet Brennan will not name him out of respect. What does that say?
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So we’ve at least spotted the lie, right? Chris (dealership owner) says he did not tell Brennan that he could lose Yamaha support at his dealership and Brennan says he did. Chris is the only one that hasn’t gone on record yet as far as I can tell even though he was ultimately the one that finally got Brennan to not go through with the claim. Still getting caught up on everything, there’s so much. Grinning
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I can’t get past the meeting in whatever room happened with however many people were there for however many minutes. By all accounts it happened. By...
I can’t get past the meeting in whatever room happened with however many people were there for however many minutes. By all accounts it happened. By all accounts it was adults asking a minor questions that didn’t need to be asked. Just the fact that this happened was the beginning of the pressure campaign. And it was inappropriate.
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able...
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able to talk to Tim Cotter, Mike from AMA and Brian Deegan for 2-5mins about said bike he wants to claim?
Bravado has nothing to do with anything. The kid was following the rules. The officials are there to try and do the right thing for the kids. Not protect special interests. I don’t understand your point of view.
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8/16/2022 11:22am Edited Date/Time 8/16/2022 12:26pm
jstein639 wrote:
One thing that came out from Walker that I thought was interesting: in his interview, he explicitly said that the Dealership was the one who told...
One thing that came out from Walker that I thought was interesting: in his interview, he explicitly said that the Dealership was the one who told Walker about Brennan's claim--not the other way around. So how did the dealership get that info? In my mind, the most likely people are Yamaha, Star, or Deegan, simply by process of elimination. Maybe the Dealer/Sponsor hears from others, but who would it be?
Yep probably one of the reasons the dealer ( Chris Darrach ) didn't want to reply to anyone asking them questions/looking for an interview.
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I can’t get past the meeting in whatever room happened with however many people were there for however many minutes. By all accounts it happened. By...
I can’t get past the meeting in whatever room happened with however many people were there for however many minutes. By all accounts it happened. By all accounts it was adults asking a minor questions that didn’t need to be asked. Just the fact that this happened was the beginning of the pressure campaign. And it was inappropriate.
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able...
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able to talk to Tim Cotter, Mike from AMA and Brian Deegan for 2-5mins about said bike he wants to claim?
What does "being man enough" have to do with it? He followed the rules and then was pressured on why he was following the rules.
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8/16/2022 11:28am
I can’t get past the meeting in whatever room happened with however many people were there for however many minutes. By all accounts it happened. By...
I can’t get past the meeting in whatever room happened with however many people were there for however many minutes. By all accounts it happened. By all accounts it was adults asking a minor questions that didn’t need to be asked. Just the fact that this happened was the beginning of the pressure campaign. And it was inappropriate.
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able...
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able to talk to Tim Cotter, Mike from AMA and Brian Deegan for 2-5mins about said bike he wants to claim?
USA wrote:
What does "being man enough" have to do with it? He followed the rules and then was pressured on why he was following the rules.
He keeps posting the same stupid shit over and over in all of these threads. Wasting your time trying to question his shit takes.
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8/16/2022 11:30am
The dealer was at Loretta’s I’m sure talk was going around the pits fast about the claim since it was the first time someone claimed a...
The dealer was at Loretta’s I’m sure talk was going around the pits fast about the claim since it was the first time someone claimed a bike at Loretta’s since 2005
280driver wrote:
No. Walker said the dealer called him while having dinner in town, not at the track. That means someone called or texted the dealer. Why would...
No. Walker said the dealer called him while having dinner in town, not at the track. That means someone called or texted the dealer. Why would someone do that I wonder. Hmmmm. I thought you listened to the interview?
ga_pike wrote:
I thought Matt stated the dealer called him while he (Matt) was headed to dinner in town, inferring the dealer was still on site at the...
I thought Matt stated the dealer called him while he (Matt) was headed to dinner in town, inferring the dealer was still on site at the track. Maybe I misunderstood.
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8/16/2022 11:30am
Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days ago everyone was saying that but now after interviews it looks like these parties played not as big a roll in this as Brennan and Derek Harris and Cooksey first put out
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USA wrote:
What about Brian Deegan lying about not knowing there was a claim rule even though he has threatened to claim bikes in the past? Does that...
What about Brian Deegan lying about not knowing there was a claim rule even though he has threatened to claim bikes in the past? Does that mean Deegan is potentially lying about everything and you should focus on that?
DonM wrote:
When did he do that and who said that? Because none of the four in the room have said that he said that…
USA wrote:
7:35 in Tyler Livesay's interview, Brennan says "he [Deegan] said he didn't know it was a rule" https://youtu.be/8ZkJU8-IxMY David Pingree confirmed that Deegan has threatened to...
7:35 in Tyler Livesay's interview, Brennan says "he [Deegan] said he didn't know it was a rule"

https://youtu.be/8ZkJU8-IxMY

David Pingree confirmed that Deegan has threatened to claim bikes in the past, with about 10 minutes left in this video

https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChQ1SUrr7JL/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
In interviews since he doesn’t mention that, Cotter, Deegan and Burkeen said Deegan was there for less than 5 mins and asked him two questions and left no mention of Deegan saying anything about not knowing anything about the claiming rule….when there are four people in a room and three of them have a version and one has somewhat of another I’m going trust that the three are closer to the truth than the one…Just so you know I believe the kid should have gotten the bike but the reason he doesn’t has nothing to do with the people in that room…
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Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days...
Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days ago everyone was saying that but now after interviews it looks like these parties played not as big a roll in this as Brennan and Derek Harris and Cooksey first put out
No, it doesn’t seem that way at all.
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DonM wrote:
In interviews since he doesn’t mention that, Cotter, Deegan and Burkeen said Deegan was there for less than 5 mins and asked him two questions and...
In interviews since he doesn’t mention that, Cotter, Deegan and Burkeen said Deegan was there for less than 5 mins and asked him two questions and left no mention of Deegan saying anything about not knowing anything about the claiming rule….when there are four people in a room and three of them have a version and one has somewhat of another I’m going trust that the three are closer to the truth than the one…Just so you know I believe the kid should have gotten the bike but the reason he doesn’t has nothing to do with the people in that room…
The kid should never have been in that room with those adults. Ever never. They absolutely did have “something” to do with it. The question is how much.
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Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days...
Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days ago everyone was saying that but now after interviews it looks like these parties played not as big a roll in this as Brennan and Derek Harris and Cooksey first put out
Exactly the opposite. They all took their time getting their stories in-line and decided to drop interviews literally during the same time frame. Not suspicious..... yeah fkn right!

Brennan posted his video right away. The kid got hosed by a bunch of old fucks and a creep in ray bans.


If you want to gargle old man balls, do it somewhere else.
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Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days...
Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days ago everyone was saying that but now after interviews it looks like these parties played not as big a roll in this as Brennan and Derek Harris and Cooksey first put out
Not everyone….but those that suggested that we all wait for the truth to come got attacked by the mob…
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8/16/2022 11:38am Edited Date/Time 8/16/2022 12:12pm
I can’t get past the meeting in whatever room happened with however many people were there for however many minutes. By all accounts it happened. By...
I can’t get past the meeting in whatever room happened with however many people were there for however many minutes. By all accounts it happened. By all accounts it was adults asking a minor questions that didn’t need to be asked. Just the fact that this happened was the beginning of the pressure campaign. And it was inappropriate.
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able...
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able to talk to Tim Cotter, Mike from AMA and Brian Deegan for 2-5mins about said bike he wants to claim?
USA wrote:
What does "being man enough" have to do with it? He followed the rules and then was pressured on why he was following the rules.
He stated in his interview with ML that he hasnt or isnt saying hes just a kid. That has all come from opinion on the matter. He was there and stood his ground, where does it say he didnt and went crying home?
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DonM wrote:
In interviews since he doesn’t mention that, Cotter, Deegan and Burkeen said Deegan was there for less than 5 mins and asked him two questions and...
In interviews since he doesn’t mention that, Cotter, Deegan and Burkeen said Deegan was there for less than 5 mins and asked him two questions and left no mention of Deegan saying anything about not knowing anything about the claiming rule….when there are four people in a room and three of them have a version and one has somewhat of another I’m going trust that the three are closer to the truth than the one…Just so you know I believe the kid should have gotten the bike but the reason he doesn’t has nothing to do with the people in that room…
The kid should never have been in that room with those adults. Ever never. They absolutely did have “something” to do with it. The question is...
The kid should never have been in that room with those adults. Ever never. They absolutely did have “something” to do with it. The question is how much.
The same room and the same people that the kid himself has said they did everything right and had no issues with? The question I have asked from the very beginning was… Where was his father and why wasn’t he there? Where is the father now and why has he not been in on any interview with his son as he is questioned by adults? If anything I would be sitting next to my son or on the phone at the same time while these interviews are taking place if just for support…
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8/16/2022 11:50am
JK BRO wrote:
Exactly the opposite. They all took their time getting their stories in-line and decided to drop interviews literally during the same time frame. Not suspicious..... yeah...
Exactly the opposite. They all took their time getting their stories in-line and decided to drop interviews literally during the same time frame. Not suspicious..... yeah fkn right!

Brennan posted his video right away. The kid got hosed by a bunch of old fucks and a creep in ray bans.


If you want to gargle old man balls, do it somewhere else.
Just wondering who the creep in Ray Bans is... Deegan or Walker.
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8/16/2022 11:57am
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The same room and the same people that the kid himself has said they did everything right and had no issues with? The question I have...
The same room and the same people that the kid himself has said they did everything right and had no issues with? The question I have asked from the very beginning was… Where was his father and why wasn’t he there? Where is the father now and why has he not been in on any interview with his son as he is questioned by adults? If anything I would be sitting next to my son or on the phone at the same time while these interviews are taking place if just for support…
There was no reason for the minor to be in a room with anybody. You are conflating stories and not seeing the basic point. Being put in a room with anyone to ask any questions is in fact influencing the outcome. And it’s wrong. I would expect a hell of a lot more from officials at the largest Amateur Event there is.
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8/16/2022 12:07pm Edited Date/Time 8/16/2022 12:15pm
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able...
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able to talk to Tim Cotter, Mike from AMA and Brian Deegan for 2-5mins about said bike he wants to claim?
What does this have to do with anything? You are making it sound like he was running around Loretta’s with the cash like some high roller. All he did was walk up to the AMA trailer with the money needed to buy the bike. Doesn’t make him a man. Also doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be intimidated when confronted with a situation he wasn’t expecting to face.
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I haven't posted in a long time and no longer have that email address, so I rejoined today.

This story has to end with every adult involved losing their job and forced to stay away from minors.
They fvcked him by intimidation / coercion.
They know it. We know it.
Quid pro Quo is on video. Its dirty and shameful
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8/16/2022 12:13pm
Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days...
Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days ago everyone was saying that but now after interviews it looks like these parties played not as big a roll in this as Brennan and Derek Harris and Cooksey first put out
JK BRO wrote:
Exactly the opposite. They all took their time getting their stories in-line and decided to drop interviews literally during the same time frame. Not suspicious..... yeah...
Exactly the opposite. They all took their time getting their stories in-line and decided to drop interviews literally during the same time frame. Not suspicious..... yeah fkn right!

Brennan posted his video right away. The kid got hosed by a bunch of old fucks and a creep in ray bans.


If you want to gargle old man balls, do it somewhere else.
I’m allowed to be here and I’m allowed to have my own opinions and disagree with others I have been a member since 2007 I’m just stating my opinion how I see what went down and I shouldn’t be attacked for it or say I I’m not allowed to
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Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days...
Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days ago everyone was saying that but now after interviews it looks like these parties played not as big a roll in this as Brennan and Derek Harris and Cooksey first put out
JK BRO wrote:
Exactly the opposite. They all took their time getting their stories in-line and decided to drop interviews literally during the same time frame. Not suspicious..... yeah...
Exactly the opposite. They all took their time getting their stories in-line and decided to drop interviews literally during the same time frame. Not suspicious..... yeah fkn right!

Brennan posted his video right away. The kid got hosed by a bunch of old fucks and a creep in ray bans.


If you want to gargle old man balls, do it somewhere else.
I’m allowed to be here and I’m allowed to have my own opinions and disagree with others I have been a member since 2007 I’m just...
I’m allowed to be here and I’m allowed to have my own opinions and disagree with others I have been a member since 2007 I’m just stating my opinion how I see what went down and I shouldn’t be attacked for it or say I I’m not allowed to
You do realize that you come off as having an axe to grind against the kid. If you do, spill it. Otherwise you look like a tool consistently posting the same shit over and over again on multiple threads.
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Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days...
Everyone wanted the Deegans banned for a year Tim Cotter fired and Mx Sports dropped from promoter of am and pro racing just a few days ago everyone was saying that but now after interviews it looks like these parties played not as big a roll in this as Brennan and Derek Harris and Cooksey first put out
JK BRO wrote:
Exactly the opposite. They all took their time getting their stories in-line and decided to drop interviews literally during the same time frame. Not suspicious..... yeah...
Exactly the opposite. They all took their time getting their stories in-line and decided to drop interviews literally during the same time frame. Not suspicious..... yeah fkn right!

Brennan posted his video right away. The kid got hosed by a bunch of old fucks and a creep in ray bans.


If you want to gargle old man balls, do it somewhere else.
So in your mind this is one big conspiracy….and anybody that disagrees with you should leave….gotcha….but what if you’re wrong…
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8/16/2022 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 8/16/2022 5:20pm
Zoom In and look at pic you can see it’s his account and he did it [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/08/16/564242/s1200_4566240A_9DCC_435A_B439_210C045DD6CE.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/08/16/564241/s1200_C8C289F9_7562_4974_975A_5555EC535732.jpg[/img]
Zoom In and look at pic you can see it’s his account and he did it



Why would this make you not believe his story? He was heated after coming together with Deegan. Pretty sure Deegan had done some smack talking (without the curse words) about Ferry when he got his front chopped on the start of one of their last little bike races together. Ferry responded with a post on Instagram making fun of deegan. They’re kids.

Also, we don’t know the backstory. He coulda posted these in retaliation to a post Deegan did or Deegan’s buddies. Again, they’re kids. Looks like one is overlaid over another snap. Has nothing to do with the claim other than maybe the start of him wanting that bike.

I’m sure Brennan and the builders stories aren’t 100% exactly what happened. No story ever is when told a week later. Things get added in, things get left out. But I’m much more inclined to believe the other side of the line got their stories straight with each other to cover their asses seeing as how hard they worked together to stop the claim.
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Who cares about a claim....
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I can’t get past the meeting in whatever room happened with however many people were there for however many minutes. By all accounts it happened. By...
I can’t get past the meeting in whatever room happened with however many people were there for however many minutes. By all accounts it happened. By all accounts it was adults asking a minor questions that didn’t need to be asked. Just the fact that this happened was the beginning of the pressure campaign. And it was inappropriate.
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able...
The kid was man enough to walk around with 17,000 and go claim a bike without a parent but hes not man enough to be able to talk to Tim Cotter, Mike from AMA and Brian Deegan for 2-5mins about said bike he wants to claim?
You are focused on idiotic and irrelevant shit... Deflecting from the basic facts does not change those facts.
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8/16/2022 12:35pm Edited Date/Time 8/16/2022 12:44pm
C&C338 makes sore loser look good, really good. Did sore loser get banned? I thought SL was kinda adding another dimension to this multi dementional situation. He definitely wasn't just a fan, definitely more to that story. An ignore button to eliminate C&C338 types would be really cool
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idworx wrote:
Who cares about a claim....
A lot of important people in the industry apparently, hence them doing whatever they could to stop it from happening.
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