Well that track was a real piece of s***..

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Edited Date/Time 5/2/2022 2:43pm
Surprised there's nothing here. I don't usually complain about these imperfections, but that track was a real piece of shit, then the 450 timing and scoring wasn't working so we couldn't see how the gaps were shaping up, then no Mookie interview with a career best. Boooooooo!
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byke
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5/1/2022 8:26am
Today I learned that there's no difference to some riders between the local playride spot by the dump a national prep'ed Unadilla.
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5/1/2022 8:27am
Malcolm was interviewed.
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300exc
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5/1/2022 8:33am
Literally nothing could be done Friday in 50+ mph gust.
The track was littered with blocks and no one was allowed on the stadium floor.
Saturday practice started at 7am.
They did the best they could.
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dkurtd
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5/1/2022 8:48am
I like different tracks, even if that means a track has to be hardpacked. The track crew was limited on what they could get accomplished with the weather conditions. Last time I checked all the racers raced the same track and conditions.

Then again, I grew up in the 70's in the midwest where we always had wind and no water (IE. hardpack).
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gt80rider
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5/1/2022 8:49am
It was definitely a change of pace, which is awesome... those weird/hard rounds are the ones you remember the longest.... they've had a few awesome tracks this year... i kinda liked seeing them race some dust bowl AX .....
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Mit12
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5/1/2022 9:01am
The 450 race coverage was horrible, the race commentary was horrible. We got to watch Tomac play it safe for 20 minutes plus 1. They need to stop trying to create drama and show the races. Tomac was 9 places in the good for the championship. Get rid of Carmichael and hire Emig. Carmichael may be better on a bike than Emig was but he is no match in the booth.
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lisenbyjacob
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5/1/2022 9:23am
I don't think that was a career best for Mook. He's had at least one 2nd this year hasn't he?

I'm here to say I'm not complaining about the track, but thankful there were no big crashes for anyone!
5/1/2022 9:25am
It takes all kinds of tracks to show who truly is the best rider in all conditions. I will agree though, it didn't look like a fun track to ride. Reminds me of many local tracks I rode growing up Laughing
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mx510
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5/1/2022 9:38am
Everything about that track was garbage.
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FIREfish148
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5/1/2022 9:41am
Looked like a fun track for a two stroke.
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lumpy790
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5/1/2022 10:04am Edited Date/Time 5/1/2022 10:07am
They dont truck the same dirt to every round so traction is always different from one round to another….. OK except Anaheim Woohoo

Not sure what kind of dirt they have in the Denver area but in 1st timed practice it was greasy like over watered clay then night show was hard packed and blue groove ready.

Every rider has to race on and adapt to the current conditions. Does suck for timed practice though
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Zycki11
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5/1/2022 10:43am Edited Date/Time 5/1/2022 11:04am
I don’t mind the hard packed surface I think it is a necessity. But the layout was the joke
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5/1/2022 10:43am
Football has astroturf vs natural grass. Road racing has fresh asphalt vs old blacktop. We have hardpack vs loam. This sport is no different than the others in that the surface conditions are a variable that will test each rider differently. I like to see the pros adapt and overcome these challenges at each new venue. Its what makes them the best in the world.
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5/1/2022 11:04am
Theres too many dads who dont ride making comments. Ive talked to these moto dads and all they want is ruts so their kid can learn to ride ruts. And these fools dont ever ride themselves, or never raced themselves. They rode the desert on an 03 CR250 and think their kids badass cuz he got 13th at a mammoth qualifier. Hardpack is mx. It cant all be two feet deep ruts all the time
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5/1/2022 11:38am
Nice to see Tomac pull the #1........but man, those main events were about as boring as I have ever seen. 250 main wasn't bad until Craig went down.

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Hi Side
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5/1/2022 1:17pm
I agree the track wasn't necessarily primo but I enjoyed the racing. I just love dirt bikes, I'd watch it if they raced in the parking lot.
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5/1/2022 3:14pm
The track was the same for everyone. Best rider on Saturday won. It would be boring to have races with St Louis dirt every Saturday. Track wasn’t in the best of conditions, yes. It looked like my French SX track in the 90s. But, the races were good. Pro riders making millions were challenged, made mistakes, some adjusted better than others. I’m 100% fine with that. Plus, it was an amazing day in Denver yesterday.
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5/1/2022 3:19pm
dv12.com wrote:
The track was the same for everyone. Best rider on Saturday won. It would be boring to have races with St Louis dirt every Saturday. Track...
The track was the same for everyone. Best rider on Saturday won. It would be boring to have races with St Louis dirt every Saturday. Track wasn’t in the best of conditions, yes. It looked like my French SX track in the 90s. But, the races were good. Pro riders making millions were challenged, made mistakes, some adjusted better than others. I’m 100% fine with that. Plus, it was an amazing day in Denver yesterday.
This guy knows.






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5/1/2022 3:30pm
dv12.com wrote:
The track was the same for everyone. Best rider on Saturday won. It would be boring to have races with St Louis dirt every Saturday. Track...
The track was the same for everyone. Best rider on Saturday won. It would be boring to have races with St Louis dirt every Saturday. Track wasn’t in the best of conditions, yes. It looked like my French SX track in the 90s. But, the races were good. Pro riders making millions were challenged, made mistakes, some adjusted better than others. I’m 100% fine with that. Plus, it was an amazing day in Denver yesterday.
100% agree with you DV.

I do have a question for you about these tracks we have now though.

After Atlanta Hunter said something about that big triple being something out of the ordinary from the spec type tracks they are used to. Keefer said something along the lines of not liking everything on these tracks being spec. While I understand the issue with that jump, in your Ex Pro Racer opinion, are these triples, whoops, other obstacles and tracks in general being within certain specs a bad thing?

I feel like these guys are so programmed to ride these tracks now with the same triple, finish line, rhythm jumps that when they are thrown something different they tend to really struggle and complain about it. There were some pretty wild tracks during your career in SX that you guys had to deal with and while I’m sure there was complaining, you guys handled it all pretty well. Are the racers today spoiled with SX specs?
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5/1/2022 3:45pm
mx510 wrote:
Everything about that track was garbage.
I am just glad you didn't have your vacation "ripped away " from you again. Laughing Laughing
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davis224
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5/1/2022 4:13pm
The design was pretty boring and lame, but I enjoyed watching them ride blue groove for once, struggling to find traction. Variety does a series good.
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5/1/2022 4:56pm
dv12.com wrote:
The track was the same for everyone. Best rider on Saturday won. It would be boring to have races with St Louis dirt every Saturday. Track...
The track was the same for everyone. Best rider on Saturday won. It would be boring to have races with St Louis dirt every Saturday. Track wasn’t in the best of conditions, yes. It looked like my French SX track in the 90s. But, the races were good. Pro riders making millions were challenged, made mistakes, some adjusted better than others. I’m 100% fine with that. Plus, it was an amazing day in Denver yesterday.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
100% agree with you DV. I do have a question for you about these tracks we have now though. After Atlanta Hunter said something about that...
100% agree with you DV.

I do have a question for you about these tracks we have now though.

After Atlanta Hunter said something about that big triple being something out of the ordinary from the spec type tracks they are used to. Keefer said something along the lines of not liking everything on these tracks being spec. While I understand the issue with that jump, in your Ex Pro Racer opinion, are these triples, whoops, other obstacles and tracks in general being within certain specs a bad thing?

I feel like these guys are so programmed to ride these tracks now with the same triple, finish line, rhythm jumps that when they are thrown something different they tend to really struggle and complain about it. There were some pretty wild tracks during your career in SX that you guys had to deal with and while I’m sure there was complaining, you guys handled it all pretty well. Are the racers today spoiled with SX specs?
this is something i've been ranting about for a LONG time. "Spec" = all that is wrong with sx. These guys can look at a rhythm lane and immediately know how to navigate it because they know what they can do, what gear to do it in, and how fast to be going.

All Feld would have to do is swap up the distances in jumps/landings and these guys would be left HAVING TO FIGURE OUT A TRACK like they have had to do since sx was invented. Every '90s vid of sx shows this to be true. Halfway through the main, RC busts out a quad or a rhythm nobody else was doing because it takes them a while to figure out what they can/can't do.

Taking lego style sx obstacles and just replicating them week over week is lame.

Downvote away.
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5/1/2022 11:36pm
lumpy790 wrote:
They dont truck the same dirt to every round so traction is always different from one round to another….. OK except Anaheim :woohoo: Not sure what...
They dont truck the same dirt to every round so traction is always different from one round to another….. OK except Anaheim Woohoo

Not sure what kind of dirt they have in the Denver area but in 1st timed practice it was greasy like over watered clay then night show was hard packed and blue groove ready.

Every rider has to race on and adapt to the current conditions. Does suck for timed practice though
Here's the thing, we all know the dirt was shit and the whole day was somewhat dusty. Not ideal for the spectators and the racing was fair play for all the riders. I'd expect that this dirt issue is noted and will be addressed for next year's Denver event.

One more round of SX and then its outdoors.

Ps. Pala gets hard as hell and dusty in places but lets not complain about that.
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5/2/2022 12:53am
Not going to lie, I liked it, different challenge for the riders. I’m not a fan of every track being the same ground conditions are specially when all the jumps are the same spec. Variety is the spice of life
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5/2/2022 5:09am
Reminded me of the Erie track about an hour north of the stadium.
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bh84
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5/2/2022 6:53am
I thought the hip jump into the sand was pretty sweet, and it pushed out the East Coast series championship another week.
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5/2/2022 6:58am
There's a reason supercross was held indoors. To control the track conditions so they stay consistent. Someone decided not go give a sh** the last 2 rounds. That was the worst maintenance I've ever seen on a track. The track was unfit to "race it". It gave off practice track at your buddy's house vibes. They couldn't have watered it for at least 3 seconds?
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TogaSet
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5/2/2022 7:03am
Track sucked. Personally I don’t get tired of great dirt for supercross. Leave the hard pack, dust, rain and mud for the outdoors.
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