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I have been popping in and out of this forum since I was about 12 years old and now I am getting close to graduating college and starting my life in the real world. My question is, what can I do to land a job in the motocross space?

I currently have five semesters left at the University of Utah and I am studying business, specifically Finance and Operations/Supply Chain Management. Does anyone have recommendations on what to study or where to find an applicable internship?

This is a shot in the dark, but I do not even know where to start. This sport is my passion and I would be happy being able to have a career in this rad industry.
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RMT
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5 semesters left is almost graduating? Lol.
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RMT wrote:
5 semesters left is almost graduating? Lol.
Well in the grand scheme of things I only have two real opportunities to do a full blown internship and I would rather start looking for opportunities now.

I guess I graduate in while, my apologies.
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RMT wrote:
5 semesters left is almost graduating? Lol.
Yes, to anyone who plans worth a shit it is.
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10/29/2021 7:29pm
If this stuff is your passion, don't turn it into a job. Sometimes working in an industry you call a passion, can be a quick way to ruin the fun of it. This sport is full of people who want crap for free because they feel like they DeSeRvE it..

If I were to take that gamble, first company in the industry id try to work for is WPS..
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Don’t work in the motocross industry if you want to make money. Most people I know “in the industry” don’t make good money at all. If you have a finance background, stay on that path and go all in. Start a Roth IRA and invest as much as you can every year. Don’t work in the moto industry unless you want to be an agent or a factory mechanic
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10/29/2021 7:38pm
Dutch348 wrote:
Don’t work in the motocross industry if you want to make money. Most people I know “in the industry” don’t make good money at all. If...
Don’t work in the motocross industry if you want to make money. Most people I know “in the industry” don’t make good money at all. If you have a finance background, stay on that path and go all in. Start a Roth IRA and invest as much as you can every year. Don’t work in the moto industry unless you want to be an agent or a factory mechanic
I was with ya til ya said mechanic.
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RMT wrote:
5 semesters left is almost graduating? Lol.
bama205 wrote:
Yes, to anyone who plans worth a shit it is.
He’s asking about the Moto industry, to make it there, planners need not apply.
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5 semesters and already planning, congrats bud. I have one left and have no idea what I wanna do. I definitely don’t want to work in the industry. Maybe for a company that’s involved like Monster but not a core moto company. It’s a tiny little industry and every person I know who worked/works in it quit riding because they were so burnt out. Good luck
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Try to work some internships related to your major that might fit into the industry. Whether or not you land a job in industry, it will be a great experience to further your career. For example, if you get a job in a machine shop or similar manufacturing, it will help you understand some of the supply chain you're eventually going to manage. And it's a pretty standard manufacturing process for our industry.
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10/29/2021 8:48pm
Supply Chain Management? Woohoo

Go give seminars to the political geniuses in DC!
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Work in a shop and get to know the reps. That’s the mostly likely way to work your way into a rep position or another foothold in the industry. But, I have to warn you that it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. I was in similar shoes about 10 years ago when I was about to graduate college. I was “fortunate” enough to land a rep position with a major snowboard company (arguably the largest). I worked in a shop from when I was 15 and made some good relationships. At the time, it was a dream come true. My friends were diving into finance/accounting positions or continuing onto grad school. Meanwhile, I was about to get paid to snowboard my brains out (or so I thought). I soon learned that I would be on the road a bunch, making a whopping $500 a week without benefits, and visiting just about every resort in the mid Atlantic region with very few opportunities to actually ride a snowboard. I think senior reps at the time were making about $60k a year - not a whole lot to aspire to. If you have student loans, a serious girlfriend/future wife, or the desire to make decent money, it’s not sustainable. I did it for about a year or so, and I distinctly remember the following winter that I didn’t ride a snowboard once. The job really spoiled the passion for me. Maybe the moto industry is different… but probably not.

All that said, I have no regrets. I think that if I passed on the opportunity, I’d always day dream that “damn, it’d be so cool to work in the industry” when now I know that it’s still just a job, and it really wasn’t so great.

Maybe you need to get it out of your system, too, and right after college is certainly the best time. Just know what you’re in for and enjoy the ride… best of luck wherever you end up OP.
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10/29/2021 9:21pm
Maybe RMATV, Motorsports or dealer may the shoe for you. Just try contacting your top preferences first. I’ve even seen industry business post opportunities here. Screw what those guys say, sounds like a great idea to get internship and experience. It’s not like you couldn’t get into something later when you need a real job. Good luck to you!
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10/30/2021 5:30am
Another vote for go make your money somewhere else and keep this your hobby, from someone that’s done it. But hey do you man!
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10/30/2021 5:41am
RMT wrote:
5 semesters left is almost graduating? Lol.
917 wrote:
Well in the grand scheme of things I only have two real opportunities to do a full blown internship and I would rather start looking for...
Well in the grand scheme of things I only have two real opportunities to do a full blown internship and I would rather start looking for opportunities now.

I guess I graduate in while, my apologies.
Don’t listen to the haters. There are plenty of us here that have been financially successful in the moto industry and continue to race in the Vet classes. I earn a six figure income in the industry and love my job. I’ll be loading up my bike tonight to head out to race in the morning.
I guess the first question you need to ask yourself is what you want to do when you grow up, then start working toward that goal. I graduated with a MIS degree but quickly realized that wasn’t what I wanted to do. I’ve been in marketing and sales in the Powersports industry for 20 years now. No matter what you decide to do in your career, that degree that you’ll be holding soon will certainly help open doors for you, even in our industry.
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10/30/2021 5:56am
Call me old school, but pick up a phone and start calling places you think you would be interested in learning more about. Ask for the Director of HR if the company is big enough, otherwise get the owner on the phone. When you talk to people live, tell them what you are trying to accomplish, you would be surprised at how willing folks are to help out. Also, since you truly have some time, try and find a mentor. Reach high and see how far up a tree you can get with a bigger company, WPS, KTM, possibly the AMA, and work to get in-touch with someone that is willing to guide you. Lastly you are going to have to be bold and work for it. No one is going to see your genius and want to throw money at you. You will ned to be creative, persistent and find a path. Start with LinkedIn. Great place to search for job titles and those that fill them. DM me if you want to talk more.
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Don’t listen to the haters. There are plenty of us here that have been financially successful in the moto industry and continue to race in the...
Don’t listen to the haters. There are plenty of us here that have been financially successful in the moto industry and continue to race in the Vet classes. I earn a six figure income in the industry and love my job. I’ll be loading up my bike tonight to head out to race in the morning.
I guess the first question you need to ask yourself is what you want to do when you grow up, then start working toward that goal. I graduated with a MIS degree but quickly realized that wasn’t what I wanted to do. I’ve been in marketing and sales in the Powersports industry for 20 years now. No matter what you decide to do in your career, that degree that you’ll be holding soon will certainly help open doors for you, even in our industry.
I’m with this guy, go live your dreams. In reality, if you’re not doing what you love, every job sucks.

Do what you love, do it well, and money will follow.


Remember this, money doesn’t equate happiness.
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10/30/2021 6:17am
With the supply chain background you could work in purchasing for a distributor, manufacturer, or even a big online shop. The rep side for any of the good distributors or OEM's is a good gig too.

I don't know why everyone thinks you don't make any money in this industry. Sure if you stay at the floor sweeper level you'll always be broke, but have some drive and work your way up and there are a ton of people making great money and doing what they love.
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This request for advice comes up at least once a month- Lots of good advice out there to search on (I realize VitalMx search function is awful). Maybe Maverick could link up a few past posts..

Anyways, let me sum up 90% of the responses you will get on here from people living in regret- Working in the MX industry is awful, they don’t pay shit, you will work 24/7, it’ll ruin your love of MX..etc..etc..

Your better alternative is to work for a company that makes toilets or faucets…
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10/30/2021 6:54am
I do know people who have hit that “burnt out” point in the industry, but it doesn’t effect everyone. I’ve been in the motorcycle industry for almost 13 years, been with Racer Productions/MX Sports for over 11 years (7 of them full-time now) and still enjoy riding motorcycles as much as I did when I was a kid.

Part of my job is riding sweep at the GNCCs so I’m literally on a bike for around 10 hours per weekend, and this is after riding a utility quad around the whole week leading up to the event setting up the course. I also tool around the infield of Loretta’s or several Pro Motocross events on either a dual sport, pit bike or quad taking care of various things, and still enjoy actually riding for fun.

So, while it does suck the fun out for some people not every single person who goes to work in the motorcycle industry ends up hating it, not making money or not wanting to ride anymore. I’m not over here getting rich but I keep the bills paid, have some nice things to show for it, and can say I enjoy my job (even at Ironman last weekend when it poured down the rain!) There’s nothing I’d rather do, and even with working almost 30 events this year, I was still at home the weekends of Millville and Washougal watching those races on TV and wishing I was there.

There’s a few good pieces of advice here. The key is definitely making connections and putting not just your name, but your face out there. It really all depends on what direction you want to go in the industry. While it is a small industry there’s a lot of different areas whether it be working with an OEM, distributor, aftermarket company, retailer, media, promoter, or whatever, there’s actually a pretty vast array of directions to take. You’re in a good position that what you’re studying can apply to a lot of different things, so I guess you have to ask yourself which direction you’d want to go and just start trying to make connections there. Phone calls and emails are your friend!
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10/30/2021 6:59am
Having been in the motorcycle industry the better part of 40 years, I would get an application in with the KTM group. You have a big advantage with your degree. Don't overlook BMW. The industry is small there is more opportunities for advancement with a smaller company.
10/30/2021 6:59am
I realize that I’m dating myself a bit here, but I got my first job in the industry by answering an ad an OEM placed in the back of Cycle News, then crushing my interview. Good luck!
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10/30/2021 7:11am
Start selling hot tubs and then start a motocross team. You'll be rich!
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10/30/2021 7:31am
Is Ogio's HQ still there or is that long gone? That would be my first thought being in SLC, but I am not aware of any other major moto related companies. However, since there are plenty of snow sports and other related action sports companies in the area, you might think about interning with one of them. That experience will be highly relatable to moto and likely help you.

As others have said, working in a shop is maybe the best way, unless you know someone. That's what I did and it opened up a lot of opportunities, particularly as a rep which is certainly better than working! But remember in the moto industry as in life, its about who you know not what you know and this goes 3x for motocross.

If I were in your shoes I would be learning how to code and preferably something blockchain related. That will allow you to ride way more than working in the motorcycle industry ever will and absolutely make more money. Remember that salaries are less in the sports world because everyone is doing it due to passion and they can get away with paying you less. Also remember that you will likely have to work at least some weekends if you end up in mx, which again will take away from your own riding time.

Anyway, don't stress too much about it, as others pointed out, you are way ahead of the game if you are already thinking about this stuff. You have a lifetime to work, but how long can you really aggressively ride a motocross bike? Use your youth to pursue your passions, not doing so is what most regret later in life.
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10/30/2021 8:42am
Keep it your passion not your vocation.

You will severely limit your professional opportunities and income potential if you focus on the MX industry, and I mean severely.

Get a ‘real gig’, make some $… expand your horizons. There is so much innovation happening in the world today, take advantage of this and find a wave to ride.

Maybe after a few years of real world experience you could start a side gig that is MX related - look at the world of fin tech and find a nitch. Stay in the sport this way,

Moto has been in my life for 50 years…high tech has been my career for ~40 years. Moto in no way could have given my the experiences and rewards that tech has.
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917 wrote:
I have been popping in and out of this forum since I was about 12 years old and now I am getting close to graduating college...
I have been popping in and out of this forum since I was about 12 years old and now I am getting close to graduating college and starting my life in the real world. My question is, what can I do to land a job in the motocross space?

I currently have five semesters left at the University of Utah and I am studying business, specifically Finance and Operations/Supply Chain Management. Does anyone have recommendations on what to study or where to find an applicable internship?

This is a shot in the dark, but I do not even know where to start. This sport is my passion and I would be happy being able to have a career in this rad industry.
I have been lucky to have some great guests on my podcast who share their stories of getting into the industry and, in some cases, even provide advice for getting started. You may enjoy them if you have aspirations for getting into the industry.

My show is called The Dirt Buzz, and you can find a complete list of episodes here:

https://dirtbuzz.buzzsprout.com/
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10/30/2021 1:10pm Edited Date/Time 10/30/2021 1:11pm
It can be a crapshoot, like any industry.

I started working at a dealer when I was young, dabbling at getting a degree that I never finished, (well, I got a 2 year).

The worst advice I ever followed was to leave the industry, if I was an enthusiast and wanted to remain so. I tried my hand at many different things that I just wasn't passionate about. I made good money in the food and beverage industry but was never really happy, and always stressed out.

Six years ago, at 50, I went back to dealership life. I make a third of what I did, but I don't deal with late nights, drunks, and hating going to work. Now, I'm surrounded by things and people that I enjoy.

Money isn't everything. Take that for what it's worth.

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10/30/2021 1:56pm
WPS - Western Powersports is based un Utah
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10/31/2021 3:00pm
i worked 25 years in the motorcycle industry , my advice is to stay far far away from it. Only very few make a great living in it, maybe 10% and Im talking about owners ( of large businesses) also.

Get a financial or a business degree , invest in real state and passive income as you much as you can so you dont have to work. The sooner you start the faster this will happen
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Let me chime in on this.

I’m 25 now, and just recently got out of the MX industry.
All I thought was that it would be my dream and I would never be unhappy and always be fulfilled.

I was very wrong. I wasn’t making enough money to support myself and my hobbies, nor did I have the time to.

On the weekends when there were big races and just small events in general that I wanted to go to, I had to work at them. Let me tell you, it absolutely sucks when you’re working and all you want to do I ride your dirtbike, but you can’t, and literally everyone around you is. Not for me.

I realized I would rather make more money, exceed farther in a career, and have more free time to actually ride my dirtbike in the first place.

To be honest, I’m glad I did it though, because if I hadn’t, I would’ve never realized what was on the other side. Now I know, and can be happy working my normal job and riding on the weekends. And can actually enjoy the sport.

Working in the industry will suck the passion for it right out of you. You get to a point where you’re just completely over it. I remember thinking “fuck this….I’ll go make more money and ride my dirtbike more. I’m over it.”

Anyways that’s my advice. I would see people on here saying the same thing all the time though and I always thought they were just negative people and stuff. Nope, they were right.

I wish you the best with what you choose though. If you REALLY want to do it though, make sure you do it right out of college or in the early part of your 20s, that way if you don’t like it, you can leave and still have PLENTY of time to succeed in something else. You’re young so don’t sweat it. Try things. Fail. Succeed. Build. Be happy. Ride your dirtbike. You only get one shot. Cool
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10/31/2021 10:22pm
I have been in this industry for 20 years, much of that time was spent working on race teams. Long hours, the money is not very good, and very little job security. This is also not a steady industry, people dont "need" motorcycles, so when ever the economy slows, the bike business goes flat.
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