Ferrandis and the Star Yamaha.

Dirty Points 7/4/2021 5:17pm
7/4/2021 5:17pm Edited Date/Time 7/4/2021 5:25pm
CG118 wrote:
I had a ‘15 big pig. Loved that bike, but it was a big pig. Has the stocker really changed that much?
Dirty Points wrote:
There is basically nothing that is unchanged between the current gen and that model.
Zycki11 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/07/04/500606/s1200_56AD1E9C_E611_4BC7_AD61_5BFA0CE717EF.jpg[/img]

New engine, new frame, new bodywork, new brakes, new chassis geometry, new electronics, electric start, new clutch, new transmission, altered suspension, different wheels. That's just alltogether a completely different bike.
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Dirty Points wrote:
There is basically nothing that is unchanged between the current gen and that model.
Zycki11 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/07/04/500606/s1200_56AD1E9C_E611_4BC7_AD61_5BFA0CE717EF.jpg[/img]

Dirty Points wrote:
New engine, new frame, new bodywork, new brakes, new chassis geometry, new electronics, electric start, new clutch, new transmission, altered suspension, different wheels. That's just alltogether...
New engine, new frame, new bodywork, new brakes, new chassis geometry, new electronics, electric start, new clutch, new transmission, altered suspension, different wheels. That's just alltogether a completely different bike.
I think zycki missed the ‘un’ in unchanged
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Zycki11 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/07/04/500606/s1200_56AD1E9C_E611_4BC7_AD61_5BFA0CE717EF.jpg[/img]

Dirty Points wrote:
New engine, new frame, new bodywork, new brakes, new chassis geometry, new electronics, electric start, new clutch, new transmission, altered suspension, different wheels. That's just alltogether...
New engine, new frame, new bodywork, new brakes, new chassis geometry, new electronics, electric start, new clutch, new transmission, altered suspension, different wheels. That's just alltogether a completely different bike.
soggy wrote:
I think zycki missed the ‘un’ in unchanged
Lol I think you both missed the sarcasm.
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JOE_SPROCKETS#1 7/4/2021 7:23pm
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Dirty Points wrote:
There is basically nothing that is unchanged between the current gen and that model.
Zycki11 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/07/04/500606/s1200_56AD1E9C_E611_4BC7_AD61_5BFA0CE717EF.jpg[/img]

Dirty Points wrote:
New engine, new frame, new bodywork, new brakes, new chassis geometry, new electronics, electric start, new clutch, new transmission, altered suspension, different wheels. That's just alltogether...
New engine, new frame, new bodywork, new brakes, new chassis geometry, new electronics, electric start, new clutch, new transmission, altered suspension, different wheels. That's just alltogether a completely different bike.
Is the new set up pretty much the same as the 250f? If so why didn’t factory Yamaha just
Carbon copy the 450 like this years ago?
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Zycki11 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/07/04/500606/s1200_56AD1E9C_E611_4BC7_AD61_5BFA0CE717EF.jpg[/img]

Dirty Points wrote:
New engine, new frame, new bodywork, new brakes, new chassis geometry, new electronics, electric start, new clutch, new transmission, altered suspension, different wheels. That's just alltogether...
New engine, new frame, new bodywork, new brakes, new chassis geometry, new electronics, electric start, new clutch, new transmission, altered suspension, different wheels. That's just alltogether a completely different bike.
JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
Is the new set up pretty much the same as the 250f? If so why didn’t factory Yamaha just Carbon copy the 450 like this years...
Is the new set up pretty much the same as the 250f? If so why didn’t factory Yamaha just
Carbon copy the 450 like this years ago?
It’s already the same frame, it’s just getting the chassis to work with more weight and rotating mass of 450ccs
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Timo wrote:
Keefer thinks it's mostly suspension tuning and parts.
CG118 wrote:
I had a ‘15 big pig. Loved that bike, but it was a big pig. Has the stocker really changed that much?
Dirty Points wrote:
There is basically nothing that is unchanged between the current gen and that model.
Only the engine, frame, bodywork, throttle body, and suspension settings are different, so it's pretty close....
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CG118 7/4/2021 9:26pm
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CG118 wrote:
I had a ‘15 big pig. Loved that bike, but it was a big pig. Has the stocker really changed that much?
Dirty Points wrote:
There is basically nothing that is unchanged between the current gen and that model.
Timo wrote:
Only the engine, frame, bodywork, throttle body, and suspension settings are different, so it's pretty close....
Outstanding. So they made it remarkably lighter, thinner, and lower, while completely changing it’s personality.
DrinkMoreWater 7/5/2021 12:46am
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RC won on 3 colours
JS7 won on 3 colors

And so on, it's the rider however the yammy in SX does look like it doesn't like SX as much as the others but saying that they haven't really had the riders since JS7.

But in MX it's all pretty fair game.
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peltier626 wrote:
On another note it's a Frenchman and Austrian leading the American series with a Fast German lurking. C'mon Merican's, time to shift gears!
The Letters A and L are very important letters, just saying Smile
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SWOHIO GUY wrote:
Anyone else think Ferrandis looks like Furio from The Sopranos?
No, he looks like Honest Muz!



My fellow Australians ( well, the older ones or those younger ones that bought the 500th issue of ADB ) and those Dastardly, orrible Kiwis might have picked up on the resemblance.

We just need to see a pair of wrap around sunnies on Dylan!
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TbonesPop wrote:
Gotta love how all the people who loved to talk shit about how light the KTMs were and how heavy the YZ's (and other Japanese bikes)...
Gotta love how all the people who loved to talk shit about how light the KTMs were and how heavy the YZ's (and other Japanese bikes) were are nowhere to be found today. Ironically, same goes for the top spots on the day. Top 6 all non-Austrian bikes. Kawi, Honda, and Yamaha all looking strong.

And for the record, this is nothing against KTMs, Husky's, or Gas Gas. All are really great bikes. Just calling out the blowhards that constantly yapped about the YZ450s needed to turn the engine around......just needed a team willing to do what needed to be done along with riders willing to do what it takes to win.
I get what you are saying but Ferrandis himself (along with AP) mentioned how dropping weight was one of the main goals Star had with the 450. So it's obviously still relative to talk about weight.
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Bearuno wrote:
No, he looks like Honest Muz! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/07/05/500632/s1200_vmx42_Honest_Muz.jpg[/img] My fellow Australians ( well, the older ones or those younger ones that bought the 500th issue of ADB...
No, he looks like Honest Muz!



My fellow Australians ( well, the older ones or those younger ones that bought the 500th issue of ADB ) and those Dastardly, orrible Kiwis might have picked up on the resemblance.

We just need to see a pair of wrap around sunnies on Dylan!
Ha forgot about Honest Muz
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skyrebel88 7/5/2021 12:30pm
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He definitely has that thing dialed. I saw some comment about KTM not being up front. Analyst commented how copper and marv aren't great in the woops on the KTM and I have read KTM isn't great in the woops compared to Jap bikes. I wonder if there is a slight comparison between indoor woops and out door bumps on the track why they aren't doing great.
Dirty Points 7/5/2021 12:49pm
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He definitely has that thing dialed. I saw some comment about KTM not being up front. Analyst commented how copper and marv aren't great in the...
He definitely has that thing dialed. I saw some comment about KTM not being up front. Analyst commented how copper and marv aren't great in the woops on the KTM and I have read KTM isn't great in the woops compared to Jap bikes. I wonder if there is a slight comparison between indoor woops and out door bumps on the track why they aren't doing great.
Cooper and Marv wouldn't be great in the whoops on any bike.
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TbonesPop wrote:
Gotta love how all the people who loved to talk shit about how light the KTMs were and how heavy the YZ's (and other Japanese bikes)...
Gotta love how all the people who loved to talk shit about how light the KTMs were and how heavy the YZ's (and other Japanese bikes) were are nowhere to be found today. Ironically, same goes for the top spots on the day. Top 6 all non-Austrian bikes. Kawi, Honda, and Yamaha all looking strong.

And for the record, this is nothing against KTMs, Husky's, or Gas Gas. All are really great bikes. Just calling out the blowhards that constantly yapped about the YZ450s needed to turn the engine around......just needed a team willing to do what needed to be done along with riders willing to do what it takes to win.
AH387 wrote:
I get what you are saying but Ferrandis himself (along with AP) mentioned how dropping weight was one of the main goals Star had with the...
I get what you are saying but Ferrandis himself (along with AP) mentioned how dropping weight was one of the main goals Star had with the 450. So it's obviously still relative to talk about weight.
Weight is a mental plus for the riders, you tell them the bike lost x amount of weight and they get excited.

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He had always been underrated, I think it’s because he is French and doesn’t give a fuck. I like him…
It took.him a few years to get comfy here but the last 3 have been good for him. Its his time to shine
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SWOHIO GUY wrote:
Anyone else think Ferrandis looks like Furio from The Sopranos?
Bearuno wrote:
No, he looks like Honest Muz! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/07/05/500632/s1200_vmx42_Honest_Muz.jpg[/img] My fellow Australians ( well, the older ones or those younger ones that bought the 500th issue of ADB...
No, he looks like Honest Muz!



My fellow Australians ( well, the older ones or those younger ones that bought the 500th issue of ADB ) and those Dastardly, orrible Kiwis might have picked up on the resemblance.

We just need to see a pair of wrap around sunnies on Dylan!
He actually reminds me of someone else...
Wink

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...whatever Dylan Ferrandis is paying David Vuillemin to train him, it should be more.

Brilliant ride, two more laps in the second moto and he would have passed Tomac for the lead - who was the last rider to do that?
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Up Wind 7/5/2021 4:44pm
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Brent wrote:
...whatever Dylan Ferrandis is paying David Vuillemin to train him, it should be more. Brilliant ride, two more laps in the second moto and he would...
...whatever Dylan Ferrandis is paying David Vuillemin to train him, it should be more.

Brilliant ride, two more laps in the second moto and he would have passed Tomac for the lead - who was the last rider to do that?
I thought Swanepool was his fitness trainer and DV was his coach/mentor?
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Brent wrote:
...whatever Dylan Ferrandis is paying David Vuillemin to train him, it should be more. Brilliant ride, two more laps in the second moto and he would...
...whatever Dylan Ferrandis is paying David Vuillemin to train him, it should be more.

Brilliant ride, two more laps in the second moto and he would have passed Tomac for the lead - who was the last rider to do that?
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I thought Swanepool was his fitness trainer and DV was his coach/mentor?
Yes, Gareth was his trainer, but once the deep state figured out he was Nelson Mandela, they sent him to Guantanamo.

DV is actually Donald Trump, they shaved off that stupid hair and painted him white, so now trump can look like some old Yamaha rider from years back and they are both working together where Ferendis will come back as vice president and the inauguration will happen at rhe last round when they hand out the championship title.
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