"Cooper Webb was told he could never ride a stock Yamaha" - Mike Sleeter

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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Anyone who buys anything sweeter says probably own 4 ocean front properties in Arizona
RonJon wrote:
Funny how all the experts on here know more than a dude that worked and developed bikes for one of the winningest 450 program in the...
Funny how all the experts on here know more than a dude that worked and developed bikes for one of the winningest 450 program in the last 10 years. Give me a break.
Just because he was a racer doesn't mean he isn't a blow hard on a podcast.
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TrumanBurbank wrote:
Never allowed to [i]ride[/i], or never allowed to [i]race[/i]? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/19/460284/s1200_896A44B0_5DF0_481C_85A8_C04177B6F23F.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/19/460283/s1200_F7B8852A_30C2_4F42_A556_AA34E1CCCA28.jpg[/img]
Never allowed to ride, or never allowed to race?



Bump.
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quadzrulebro 11/20/2020 7:04am
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quadzrulebro wrote:
Dungey won right out of the gate in KTM’s program under DeCoster, and that momentum has carried on. Refresh my memory, how has the 2016 AMA...
Dungey won right out of the gate in KTM’s program under DeCoster, and that momentum has carried on. Refresh my memory, how has the 2016 AMA National Champion’s career gone since jumping aboard “the most sought after ride out there”?
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Not totally fair, Ken was on another level when he crashed at A2. Would he of won the title that year? Impossible to say, but he...
Not totally fair, Ken was on another level when he crashed at A2. Would he of won the title that year? Impossible to say, but he looked amazing
That wasn’t a dig against Kenny. I just think that based on results over the past 15 years it is a stretch to say that an HRC ride is an advantage over any other factory ride here in the US with production rules in place.
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TrumanBurbank 11/20/2020 8:16am
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Kind of looks like you killed this urban legend.......
Haha no disrespect intended, just wanted to make sure all of the cards were on the table.

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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Anyone who buys anything sweeter says probably own 4 ocean front properties in Arizona
RonJon wrote:
Funny how all the experts on here know more than a dude that worked and developed bikes for one of the winningest 450 program in the...
Funny how all the experts on here know more than a dude that worked and developed bikes for one of the winningest 450 program in the last 10 years. Give me a break.
We are all subject matter experts in any given hot topic any given day 🤪
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TrumanBurbank wrote:
Never allowed to [i]ride[/i], or never allowed to [i]race[/i]? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/19/460284/s1200_896A44B0_5DF0_481C_85A8_C04177B6F23F.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/19/460283/s1200_F7B8852A_30C2_4F42_A556_AA34E1CCCA28.jpg[/img]
Never allowed to ride, or never allowed to race?



LungButter wrote:
Bump.
Until this day.
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TrumanBurbank wrote:
Never allowed to [i]ride[/i], or never allowed to [i]race[/i]? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/19/460284/s1200_896A44B0_5DF0_481C_85A8_C04177B6F23F.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/19/460283/s1200_F7B8852A_30C2_4F42_A556_AA34E1CCCA28.jpg[/img]
Never allowed to ride, or never allowed to race?



LungButter wrote:
Bump.
twotwosix wrote:
Until this day.
Actually Cooper rode the production bike and wanted to race it and Yamaha wouldn’t let him...
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FGR01 11/20/2020 9:37am
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Long story short - all the "works bikes are so awesome" nuthuggers that think the factories have some special magic are basically responsible for this situation.

Every time a Vital +50C member buys a set of cone valves or billet clamps, or puts a torque wrench on his skid plate, the bigwigs at Yamaha take another whiff of their own crap and deny a rider the opportunity to try the stock bike, because "Works" is always better.
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It is good to be King.
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FGR01 wrote:
Long story short - all the "works bikes are so awesome" nuthuggers that think the factories have some special magic are basically responsible for this situation...
Long story short - all the "works bikes are so awesome" nuthuggers that think the factories have some special magic are basically responsible for this situation.

Every time a Vital +50C member buys a set of cone valves or billet clamps, or puts a torque wrench on his skid plate, the bigwigs at Yamaha take another whiff of their own crap and deny a rider the opportunity to try the stock bike, because "Works" is always better.
You shut your mouth when you talk about my cone valves. Smile


On the issue of whether Factory Yamaha F'ed up their bikes in the past...I think we will see if there is evidence of that if Dylan, Aaron and Malcom excel on the YZ450 this year. Don't have to argue about it here.
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mx317 11/20/2020 10:25am
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I love my Yamaha YZ450F! I'm riding it the most stock of any bike I've had in years. The right springs, bit taller seat, my favorite ODI grips, a few clicks on the suspension and the TP-3 map and it's good to go.
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jorgechavez 11/20/2020 12:35pm
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TrumanBurbank wrote:
Never allowed to [i]ride[/i], or never allowed to [i]race[/i]? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/19/460284/s1200_896A44B0_5DF0_481C_85A8_C04177B6F23F.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/19/460283/s1200_F7B8852A_30C2_4F42_A556_AA34E1CCCA28.jpg[/img]
Never allowed to ride, or never allowed to race?



Haha good thing we have Gypsy Tales to give us all the wrong info
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Side note: I've never paid attention to gypsy guy but what a tool he sounds like during Josh Hill interview. On the topic of Jlaw, he says Jlaw randomly wanted to fight him in a parking lot (when explaining it more, it sounds like he made that up to have something to say on the topic). Then, randomly brings up Pourcel having an issue with him because he banged a girl Pourcel was seeing. Wow, way to cool guy it, I'm sure Josh was super impressed.
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The title is clickbait to get more views, its worded like that so people talk about, share it, view it, the more views the more Jase makes, simple, all the videos are like that he uploads.
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quadzrulebro wrote:
Dungey won right out of the gate in KTM’s program under DeCoster, and that momentum has carried on. Refresh my memory, how has the 2016 AMA...
Dungey won right out of the gate in KTM’s program under DeCoster, and that momentum has carried on. Refresh my memory, how has the 2016 AMA National Champion’s career gone since jumping aboard “the most sought after ride out there”?
Yeah because it’s not like he was winning anything before that on the yellow piece of shit.....oh wait....
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Johnny Ringo 11/20/2020 3:00pm
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Should rename his pod to Gypsy Fails
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Looks like he just uploaded another Sleeter video with the title "A KTM 150 is faster than a Honda 250."

So, yeah, clickbait.
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TrumanBurbank 11/20/2020 7:27pm
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TrumanBurbank wrote:
Never allowed to [i]ride[/i], or never allowed to [i]race[/i]? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/19/460284/s1200_896A44B0_5DF0_481C_85A8_C04177B6F23F.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/19/460283/s1200_F7B8852A_30C2_4F42_A556_AA34E1CCCA28.jpg[/img]
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jorgechavez wrote:
Haha good thing we have Gypsy Tales to give us all the wrong info
Haha Gypsy catches heat on here sometimes, but I respect what he’s building for himself over there. I haven’t dove into much of his content personally, but things like his supercross companion show (in the same vein as Joe Rogan’s fight companion episodes) with Tyler Bereman, seemed pretty cool to me. Like myself, I know he’s just a fan of the sport.
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mjr119 11/20/2020 8:42pm
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I heard that when Chad Reed and Cooper Webb were teammates, that Chad was purposely giving Webb bad setting advice. When he was supposed to be helping develop the bike / mentor Webb.

This was when Webb was asking to race the stock bike.
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mattyhamz2 11/20/2020 9:33pm
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mjr119 wrote:
I heard that when Chad Reed and Cooper Webb were teammates, that Chad was purposely giving Webb bad setting advice. When he was supposed to be...
I heard that when Chad Reed and Cooper Webb were teammates, that Chad was purposely giving Webb bad setting advice. When he was supposed to be helping develop the bike / mentor Webb.

This was when Webb was asking to race the stock bike.
I heard the opposite. Chad was telling Coop what changes needed to be made to make the bike better(more towards stock) and Yamaha told Coop to basically ignore Chad when it came to bike setup.

I seriously doubt Chad would give Coop bad setup advice
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King_George_III 11/20/2020 11:03pm
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Gypsy tales? Does he live in a plastic wrapped caravan and steal everything that isn't nailed down?
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mx691 11/21/2020 4:46am
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Langstons 2007 (2008) bike was pretty stock (for a championship bike):

MXA Tests Langstons 2007 YZF450
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quadzrulebro wrote:
Dungey won right out of the gate in KTM’s program under DeCoster, and that momentum has carried on. Refresh my memory, how has the 2016 AMA...
Dungey won right out of the gate in KTM’s program under DeCoster, and that momentum has carried on. Refresh my memory, how has the 2016 AMA National Champion’s career gone since jumping aboard “the most sought after ride out there”?
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Not totally fair, Ken was on another level when he crashed at A2. Would he of won the title that year? Impossible to say, but he...
Not totally fair, Ken was on another level when he crashed at A2. Would he of won the title that year? Impossible to say, but he looked amazing
You're memory of a 3 race sample size is lacking. On another level when Dungey was on his rear fender the second race of the season and he ate shit race 3?
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mjr119 wrote:
I heard that when Chad Reed and Cooper Webb were teammates, that Chad was purposely giving Webb bad setting advice. When he was supposed to be...
I heard that when Chad Reed and Cooper Webb were teammates, that Chad was purposely giving Webb bad setting advice. When he was supposed to be helping develop the bike / mentor Webb.

This was when Webb was asking to race the stock bike.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I heard the opposite. Chad was telling Coop what changes needed to be made to make the bike better(more towards stock) and Yamaha told Coop to...
I heard the opposite. Chad was telling Coop what changes needed to be made to make the bike better(more towards stock) and Yamaha told Coop to basically ignore Chad when it came to bike setup.

I seriously doubt Chad would give Coop bad setup advice
Yep, Reed wanted to change the bike, but wasn’t allowed, and was telling Cooper want he thought was wrong with the bike, so ‘team management’ stopped Reed from talking to him.
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Chris99Flannery wrote:
Oh no not Gypsy Brooooo Tails again! Can not listen to that guy.
Why do riders even talk to this guy? I can’t stand his content. Every podcast he tries to act like the personality of the rider he’s interviewing and it’s cringy as hell.
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quadzrulebro wrote:
Dungey won right out of the gate in KTM’s program under DeCoster, and that momentum has carried on. Refresh my memory, how has the 2016 AMA...
Dungey won right out of the gate in KTM’s program under DeCoster, and that momentum has carried on. Refresh my memory, how has the 2016 AMA National Champion’s career gone since jumping aboard “the most sought after ride out there”?
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Not totally fair, Ken was on another level when he crashed at A2. Would he of won the title that year? Impossible to say, but he...
Not totally fair, Ken was on another level when he crashed at A2. Would he of won the title that year? Impossible to say, but he looked amazing
Chris_Buehler wrote:
You're memory of a 3 race sample size is lacking. On another level when Dungey was on his rear fender the second race of the season...
You're memory of a 3 race sample size is lacking. On another level when Dungey was on his rear fender the second race of the season and he ate shit race 3?
He won A1 by 20 seconds and beat the champ straight up in round 2. Like I mentioned, you can’t say he woulda won the title. But anyone denying that was the best Roczen had looked in Supercross is lying to themselves
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
He won A1 by 20 seconds and beat the champ straight up in round 2. Like I mentioned, you can’t say he woulda won the title...
He won A1 by 20 seconds and beat the champ straight up in round 2. Like I mentioned, you can’t say he woulda won the title. But anyone denying that was the best Roczen had looked in Supercross is lying to themselves
I'm not sure why this gets so much dislike, but he also dominated the 2 races he could finish at monster cup a few months before that. Had a similar crash to what happened at round 3.

Thats what people like, IMO, is guys going out there and sending it. Dungey rarely did that, and I dont have any memorable races that Dungey won. The only reason I remember the whole shifting with his hand thing is because people keep bringing it up on here. I've never heard my moto buddies mention a badass thing Dungey did.
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USA wrote:
I'm not sure why this gets so much dislike, but he also dominated the 2 races he could finish at monster cup a few months before...
I'm not sure why this gets so much dislike, but he also dominated the 2 races he could finish at monster cup a few months before that. Had a similar crash to what happened at round 3.

Thats what people like, IMO, is guys going out there and sending it. Dungey rarely did that, and I dont have any memorable races that Dungey won. The only reason I remember the whole shifting with his hand thing is because people keep bringing it up on here. I've never heard my moto buddies mention a badass thing Dungey did.
Right, sounds like you may have missed a decade.

Dungey Suthwick 2011 - His Suzuki is in the pits and won't start, he's at the gate and obviously the only rider without a bike. Gate drops and he still doesn't have a bike. About 3/4 of a lap in, his bike shows up...he passes his way up to 7th and still gets on the podium for a day

Dungey Southwick 2012 - has a tip over and gas spills out everywhere. Some healthy gas burn on the nuts going on. He has to pit to refuel in the middle of a Moto. Comes back in passes his way back up to 2nd place and takes the overall.

Dungey is a 4x outdoor and 5x sx champ. This is 100% because he's a badass.
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Not totally fair, Ken was on another level when he crashed at A2. Would he of won the title that year? Impossible to say, but he...
Not totally fair, Ken was on another level when he crashed at A2. Would he of won the title that year? Impossible to say, but he looked amazing
Chris_Buehler wrote:
You're memory of a 3 race sample size is lacking. On another level when Dungey was on his rear fender the second race of the season...
You're memory of a 3 race sample size is lacking. On another level when Dungey was on his rear fender the second race of the season and he ate shit race 3?
Johnny Ringo wrote:
He won A1 by 20 seconds and beat the champ straight up in round 2. Like I mentioned, you can’t say he woulda won the title...
He won A1 by 20 seconds and beat the champ straight up in round 2. Like I mentioned, you can’t say he woulda won the title. But anyone denying that was the best Roczen had looked in Supercross is lying to themselves
No doubt but another level?

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