Alex Martin on a KTM450

fatpurplepanda 11/12/2020 12:19pm
11/12/2020 12:19pm
Frank Tuesday wrote:
Can you honestly say that if you were a 450 team making hiring decisions, he would be your pick to take one of your two seats...
Can you honestly say that if you were a 450 team making hiring decisions, he would be your pick to take one of your two seats? Knowing that SX is what brings the sponsors who pay the bills, you'd hire a 31 year old who's never won an SX main in the 250 class.
yz133rider wrote:
I believe I’d give him a shot before a few others who have rides locked down. I’d give Alex Martin a shot over Bogle, Bagget, Bloss...
I believe I’d give him a shot before a few others who have rides locked down.

I’d give Alex Martin a shot over Bogle, Bagget, Bloss, Mcelrath, Savatgy, Enticknapp, Hill, Friese.

And yes I know some of those guys have some serious credentials, so feel free to take a couple off the list you vehemently disagree with, and there’s still a couple left surely who he’s on equal footing with for a shot. Especially considering the last time some of them have really shown flashes at all.
Bagget? Really? I'm a huge Martin fanboy (see where I'm from), but you're nuts. The others I can at least understand, but no way would I give Alex a ride over Bagget.
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yz133rider 11/12/2020 12:36pm
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fatpurplepanda wrote:
Bagget? Really? I'm a huge Martin fanboy (see where I'm from), but you're nuts. The others I can at least understand, but no way would I...
Bagget? Really? I'm a huge Martin fanboy (see where I'm from), but you're nuts. The others I can at least understand, but no way would I give Alex a ride over Bagget.
I just think you know what you’re gonna get with bagget and Martin might kill it on a 450. That’s why I’d give him a shot but I can completely see why you’d think I’m nuts to think that. Which is why I said I think there’s plenty of others on the list he’s at least equal with.
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jorgechavez 11/12/2020 12:37pm
11/12/2020 12:37pm
Personally I would take a guy like AMart who you know is going to show up in shape and always puts in 100% over guys like McElrath or Bogle who you can’t always guarantee they will be putting in 100%.
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Spat24 11/12/2020 12:40pm
11/12/2020 12:40pm
Some of you are missing the point. There is really only 5-7 guys that can win a race and maybe 3-4 in the championship chase. The satellite teams would be great for AMart and he would do well with one of them and give great exposure for the sponsors as AMart will get a 450 in the main (maybe from LCQ but thats more TV time). He is worth a ride.

if Bar X team is truly having some rides in the 250 class - Alex would be great for the team and the riders as a mentor.

And please take the age out of the equation - we just had a first time Champ that is over 30.
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Brent 11/12/2020 12:41pm
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Everyone said Jeremy Martin was too small and weak to ride a 450 and look how he did in Daytona.

I for one think Alex Martin is a stud and will kill it on the 450 when he gets there. The dude is extremely fit and motivated.
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fourfourone 11/12/2020 12:43pm
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What size shoes does A mart wear?
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hypermoto 11/12/2020 12:47pm
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Ray_MXS wrote:
How many do you have?
Frank Tuesday wrote:
No one is talking about me getting a 450 ride, so that's irrelevant.
Ray_MXS wrote:
So only people with more than 2 mx wins and 3 sx podiums can have a ride? Have fun with your series with 5-6 or so...
So only people with more than 2 mx wins and 3 sx podiums can have a ride?

Have fun with your series with 5-6 or so riders in it.
To be fair almost entire 450 field has those stats matched or beat.

AMart deserves a solid support 450 ride IMO. Or
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BobPA 11/12/2020 1:13pm
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Frank Tuesday wrote:
Seems like a nice guy, buy why would anyone give him a 450 ride? 13 years in and he has 2 MX overalls and 3 SX...
Seems like a nice guy, buy why would anyone give him a 450 ride? 13 years in and he has 2 MX overalls and 3 SX podiums to his name on the little bikes.
gt80rider wrote:
isn't he like 30?? him and his bro should have graduated to the big boy class years ago....
yz133rider wrote:
You go where the rides are...
Unless your name is Davalos...Because then you are considered a sandbagger by the Vital brain trust.
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gt80rider wrote:
isn't he like 30?? him and his bro should have graduated to the big boy class years ago....
yz133rider wrote:
You go where the rides are...
BobPA wrote:
Unless your name is Davalos...Because then you are considered a sandbagger by the Vital brain trust.
I got a call from Minnesota asking,"Who is this gt80rider A-Hole and does he know 'jack-shit' about how this all works?"

I was on my way to Glen Helen for what turned out to be a REALLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD test day...and those of us at the track checking settings and changing parts had a good laugh about it.

So, it's like this;

IF you get a Good Paying OFFER to ride 250s...
AND IF you get NO COMPETITIVE PAYING OFFER to ride 450s...
Well, like in the movie "Speed"...
WHAT DO YOU DO?!?!

I'm jus' askin'...
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yz133rider wrote:
You go where the rides are...
BobPA wrote:
Unless your name is Davalos...Because then you are considered a sandbagger by the Vital brain trust.
TeamGreen wrote:
I got a call from Minnesota asking,"Who is this gt80rider A-Hole and does he know 'jack-shit' about how this all works?" I was on my way...
I got a call from Minnesota asking,"Who is this gt80rider A-Hole and does he know 'jack-shit' about how this all works?"

I was on my way to Glen Helen for what turned out to be a REALLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD test day...and those of us at the track checking settings and changing parts had a good laugh about it.

So, it's like this;

IF you get a Good Paying OFFER to ride 250s...
AND IF you get NO COMPETITIVE PAYING OFFER to ride 450s...
Well, like in the movie "Speed"...
WHAT DO YOU DO?!?!

I'm jus' askin'...
Well my babeys need diapers and last I checked racers don't get EBT cards so.....ya id take the cash 🤣
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secretwrench 11/12/2020 9:05pm
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berm surfer wrote:
[b][I]déjà vu![/b][/i] I'd love to see Amart back at Rock River Yamaha if JGR shut downs. He would be on a capable bike with something to...
déjà vu!
I'd love to see Amart back at Rock River Yamaha if JGR shut downs. He would be on a capable bike with something to prove.

Pretty sure you will get your wish. Smile
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Redrcr34 11/12/2020 10:42pm
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I always looked forward to Amart’s vlogs and hope he gets a ride for 21.
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Motofinne 11/12/2020 11:23pm
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I really hope he steps up to a 450 rider asap. I understand why he has been so long in the 250 class, especially when he was getting paid relatively well in the 250 class but now there are hardly any good rides left for him. Time to step up! I think he could do very well outdoors on a 450 considering his work ethic.
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Frank Tuesday 11/13/2020 8:34am
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yz133rider wrote:
You go where the rides are...
BobPA wrote:
Unless your name is Davalos...Because then you are considered a sandbagger by the Vital brain trust.
TeamGreen wrote:
I got a call from Minnesota asking,"Who is this gt80rider A-Hole and does he know 'jack-shit' about how this all works?" I was on my way...
I got a call from Minnesota asking,"Who is this gt80rider A-Hole and does he know 'jack-shit' about how this all works?"

I was on my way to Glen Helen for what turned out to be a REALLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD test day...and those of us at the track checking settings and changing parts had a good laugh about it.

So, it's like this;

IF you get a Good Paying OFFER to ride 250s...
AND IF you get NO COMPETITIVE PAYING OFFER to ride 450s...
Well, like in the movie "Speed"...
WHAT DO YOU DO?!?!

I'm jus' askin'...
Some people want to be the best, some are happy to collect a paycheck for doing what they love. Nothing wrong with either. But lets not pretend that people in latter category are the former.
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fatpurplepanda wrote:
Bagget? Really? I'm a huge Martin fanboy (see where I'm from), but you're nuts. The others I can at least understand, but no way would I...
Bagget? Really? I'm a huge Martin fanboy (see where I'm from), but you're nuts. The others I can at least understand, but no way would I give Alex a ride over Bagget.
Depends on the money difference between Baggett and Martin. Seems like the butler bros team has anknserious money into Baggett and they've have gotten wins as a result. Another team like MCR or HEP probably doesn't have that kind of money. I might take A Matt over Bloss or Friese or some of the guys on HEP for similar money.
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fatpurplepanda wrote:
Bagget? Really? I'm a huge Martin fanboy (see where I'm from), but you're nuts. The others I can at least understand, but no way would I...
Bagget? Really? I'm a huge Martin fanboy (see where I'm from), but you're nuts. The others I can at least understand, but no way would I give Alex a ride over Bagget.
who are you anyway your opinion is nothing lol........
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fatpurplepanda wrote:
Bagget? Really? I'm a huge Martin fanboy (see where I'm from), but you're nuts. The others I can at least understand, but no way would I...
Bagget? Really? I'm a huge Martin fanboy (see where I'm from), but you're nuts. The others I can at least understand, but no way would I give Alex a ride over Bagget.
nickj308 wrote:
who are you anyway your opinion is nothing lol........
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Mx4life320 11/13/2020 9:14am
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yz133rider wrote:
You go where the rides are...
Frank Tuesday wrote:
Yes, and there's a reason that he's 31 and still on the little bikes. He's never shown that he was worthy of a factory 450 ride...
Yes, and there's a reason that he's 31 and still on the little bikes. He's never shown that he was worthy of a factory 450 ride. Is he one of the 50 best SX/MX riders in the US, yes. Unfortunately for him, there aren't 50 seats in the 450 class. He's very good, but he's no Davalos, much less Tomac.
yz133rider wrote:
Dunno, some ride the 450s better and what we see of his fitness and experience would lead me to believe he’d do quite well on a...
Dunno, some ride the 450s better and what we see of his fitness and experience would lead me to believe he’d do quite well on a 450. The 250s are so dependent on engine development. And he was the only Suzuki 250 rider in us or Europe so that’s quite a disadvantage and he was still doing damn good.

Again, nothing against Alex, hes a bad dude! But looking at his results the past 10 years, his average finish is 11, all in the 250 class. ANd if you look in the last 4 years his average is 7.5. Good but again only in the 250 class. I hope he gets a ride somewhere, but he is not really factory material.

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davis224 11/13/2020 9:30am
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I'd love to see what he can do on a 450 outside if he can't secure a decent paying team ride. Possible injury fill in ride as well when training starts ramping up?
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Adam43 11/13/2020 9:41am
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A-Mart is a totally unknown quantity on a 450, but I think it would go a lot better than most think.

How can he not be on PC though? If Mitch was willing to move heaven and earth to get Jeremy, why not try Alex, who is 90% there, and better on occasion?
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Adam43 wrote:
A-Mart is a totally unknown quantity on a 450, but I think it would go a lot better than most think. How can he not be...
A-Mart is a totally unknown quantity on a 450, but I think it would go a lot better than most think.

How can he not be on PC though? If Mitch was willing to move heaven and earth to get Jeremy, why not try Alex, who is 90% there, and better on occasion?
Because, most likely, budgets are already set and contracts already signed.
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berm surfer wrote:
[b][I]déjà vu![/b][/i] I'd love to see Amart back at Rock River Yamaha if JGR shut downs. He would be on a capable bike with something to...
déjà vu!
I'd love to see Amart back at Rock River Yamaha if JGR shut downs. He would be on a capable bike with something to prove.

Is that Hill on the #32?
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berm surfer wrote:
[b][I]déjà vu![/b][/i] I'd love to see Amart back at Rock River Yamaha if JGR shut downs. He would be on a capable bike with something to...
déjà vu!
I'd love to see Amart back at Rock River Yamaha if JGR shut downs. He would be on a capable bike with something to prove.

Conkey wrote:
Is that Hill on the #32?
Yeah. Back in 2015.
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berm surfer wrote:
[b][I]déjà vu![/b][/i] I'd love to see Amart back at Rock River Yamaha if JGR shut downs. He would be on a capable bike with something to...
déjà vu!
I'd love to see Amart back at Rock River Yamaha if JGR shut downs. He would be on a capable bike with something to prove.

Conkey wrote:
Is that Hill on the #32?
Yes sir!
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S.Loyer 11/13/2020 12:41pm
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Matthes said he is on Rock River #BluCru
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Motofinne 11/13/2020 12:45pm
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Rock River 250 or 450? Please be 450.
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berm surfer 11/13/2020 12:58pm
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I want him on a 250f..quoting from my post in another thread there's already 18 top 10 riders in the 450 class.

(Based on 2020 SX top 10's)
Tomac, AC, Roczen, Webb, Sexton, Barcia, Anderson, Osbourne, Mookie, Brayton, MM25, Baggett, Wilson, Tickle, Ferrandis, Plessinger, McElrath, Bloss
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Spat24 wrote:
Some of you are missing the point. There is really only 5-7 guys that can win a race and maybe 3-4 in the championship chase. The...
Some of you are missing the point. There is really only 5-7 guys that can win a race and maybe 3-4 in the championship chase. The satellite teams would be great for AMart and he would do well with one of them and give great exposure for the sponsors as AMart will get a 450 in the main (maybe from LCQ but thats more TV time). He is worth a ride.

if Bar X team is truly having some rides in the 250 class - Alex would be great for the team and the riders as a mentor.

And please take the age out of the equation - we just had a first time Champ that is over 30.
Yeah, besides, I'm 58, and haven't even gotten my pro card yet.
#justgettingstarted Smile

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