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Still waiting for you to make an intelligent point.
Let's start with Corner Contact. Nobody is saying that contact shouldn't be allowed. We're saying that when you take yourself and the other guy out, you probably crossed the line and you're riding in a reckless and dangerous manner.
Based on your logic - I should be able to T-Bone a rider in a corner if he doesn't let off especially if he left the door open and can or cannot see/ hear me. I mean Chad Reed/ James Stewart T-bone. Both went down= not a good pass.
No need to respond. I think you've said enough.
T-bones are dirty. This was not a T-bone. The “T” in “T-bone” is a visual reference, meaning the front wheel of the bike on the inside is hitting the outside bike somewhere between its two wheels. If the inside rider’s front wheel gets to the intersection (where the two motorcycles meet) first, it’s a stuff/block pass. if the outside rider gets there first, it’s a T-bone.
This below is a T-bone. It’s dirty. The Ferrandis/Craig incident was not a T-bone. It was a stuff/block pass.
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Those who blame Craig's line choice... he took the outside line because he was far enough ahead that nothing short of a kamikaze move by Ferrandis would have resulted in a pass in that corner. Who expects to get taken out like that? I guess if you're in front of Barcia you might.
(EDIT: Sorry I did a long post)
Detrimental ? I really don't think so.
People who wants to play in a ballet will get shocked by everything and anyway would not touch a bike with a stick. The potential consumer and customer bases who can really afford to buy bikes and everything are into action sports, adrenaline (bmx, DH, climbing, snowboarding, etc). Most have both a sort of "bad ass" life style, a more agressive and/or fearless mentality (i.e. no fear), which is mixed at the same time with a very tidy/responsible behavior (see how people like to have nice bikes, very often tidy workshop/garage + are proud of their family/kids and have enough money to afford one of the most expensive sports). The mentality is quite different to most people, and rubbing in racing is quite accepted and considered as exciting at the pro level since forever.
The public in the stadium is not the real customer base either, there is a big difference between watching a show and really practicing a sport, but the public watching a show also likes action and drama, which is why most of the season highlights are: starts, crashes, passes, block passes, not a freight train at all. It is all good, it sells both bikes and tickets.
And the reason why MX bike sales are not like in the 80s are both:
- external/non controllable factors, such as a complete change of mentality (i.e. internet, smart phones, ecology), career evolution (future uncertainty, 50% of the global workers will be temp/contrators soon, erosion/less spending power for the middle class),
- as well internal/controllable factors, such as the 4 stroke maintenance cost, distance/time/cost of racing, big injuries (from a friend or ourselves, plus the crazy potential medical bills depending of the country), bike prices, and the decrease of the number of tracks in many developed countries (US/Belgium/and i think in the UK).
Let us be positive though, with all the emerging countries the global bike market has probably increased a lot since the 80's and i am sure the main manufacturers will also want to continue to test and showcase their technical advantage and reliability in the main series such as motoGP, dakar, ... and motocross !
A bit fhe same deal as Herlings/Cairoli in Materley Bassin when both lines met.
It is a common problem racing with guys that are quite as fast. There are not that many openings and something it can go really wrong...
My own opinion is that Ferrandis slightly misjudged the situation but I only saw it once.
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The move was a shit pass. Doesn’t mean it’s wrong or amoral. You act as if he kicked someone’s dog or slapped his 2 years old in the face.
It’s a tough sport and shit happens.
Go watch a dance recital or something. This is a tough persons sport.
Quit bitching with your dizzying intellect, dunce.
Hard racing has been going on for a long time with all of the greats!!
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Doesn't make it a smart move though, particularly in this case.
The attempted pass on Jet was the same too, pass wasn't there, went for it anyways and fuck the other guy. High-risk for both riders and generally rough riding is boomerang like.
He had plenty of time to check up. He chose not to.
It’s called “taking the line away” for a reason. If the guy on the outside pins it anyway, the contact is on him.
And taking the line away – should be just that. Not just causing contact in a 50/50.
Again, not against rough riding, but carelessness towards other competitors shouldn't be dismissed as fine just because 'this is sx you pussies'...
WTF?! Have any of you guys ever actually raced motocross?
Who the eff checks up when in the lead? Ferrandis showed up out of nowhere while Craig was in the lead and railing the turn, committed as most leaders do. Ferrandis then showed up out of nowhere and cleaned him out, roller derby style. It was uncalled for as it was early in the race and he was going to pass him in a turn or two anyway. Ray Charles could have seen that if he was there.
Prove me wrong...
DF is not the cleanest rider out there. He's put his foot on another rider, took Hill out, Craig's well, and he put his wheel in on Jett while Lawrence was going up the face of a jump. He apologized to Hill and Craig, which is the right thing to do, but in the case with Hill, he ran in on him so hard, he stuck his arm out to brace himself. He knew exactly what he was doing. How many times does a rider get off on the "it was an accident" excuse?
Unfortunately, there is no balance in the discussion. You either have the worthless trolls talking trash about his nationality, attacking him and his family, or people unjustly defending his actions as "rubbing is racing." I think Dylan is mostly to blame here.
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