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GrapeApe 9/13/2019 1:58pm
9/13/2019 1:58pm
hamncheeze wrote:
2 threads, 1 whiny rider, 0 winners who listened to podcast or commented on Vital.
slumpstone wrote:
You sure talk a lot of shit. Go back and look at all your comments on everything you replied too. Get a life loser.
This in incredibly ironic. Have you checked your post history? Your only purpose here is to talk shit on riders, teams, etc. No wonder where Joey gets it from.
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Trevor91 9/13/2019 2:03pm
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Excaliburbmx wrote:
Tomac was coming fast. No way Joey was going to hold him off. He wilted and pulled over because he knew Tomac was flying.
must not have listened to the podcast then lol. Joey said he was slowing down to the point where it wasn't super obvious and planned to let eli by outside the stadium. he's not as down as some of u think he is...
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Ray_MXS 9/13/2019 2:04pm
9/13/2019 2:04pm Edited Date/Time 9/13/2019 2:07pm
What I don't understand is that he seems oblivious to the consequences of all this.

Let's say Joey doesn't get a ride for next year and has to privateer/couch.
Eli or Adam gets hurt and Kawi needs a fill-in. Does he think they'll call him after this?
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280driver 9/13/2019 2:23pm
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Excaliburbmx wrote:
Tomac was coming fast. No way Joey was going to hold him off. He wilted and pulled over because he knew Tomac was flying.
Trevor91 wrote:
must not have listened to the podcast then lol. Joey said he was slowing down to the point where it wasn't super obvious and planned to...
must not have listened to the podcast then lol. Joey said he was slowing down to the point where it wasn't super obvious and planned to let eli by outside the stadium. he's not as down as some of u think he is...
That’s assuming you believe him. Again, we are only hearing Joeys side of this story. ET is not likely to jump into this stuff so I️ doubt we’ll ever hear his side. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.
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sumdood 9/13/2019 2:47pm
9/13/2019 2:47pm
Langhammx wrote:
Lesson learned ! I’m pretty sure that if you were in his shoes, you’d be feeling the same way. He may not make everyone happy with...
Lesson learned !

I’m pretty sure that if you were in his shoes, you’d be feeling the same way. He may not make everyone happy with how he comes off in the interview, but Joey has good reason to feel the way he does about it, IMO.
Tomac could have parked Joey on his way to the front, which is the argument, I get it... but he could've gone down in the process as well.
A simple thanks or a nice dinner after the race would’ve been a nice thing to do. Not even acknowledging the move by Joey was pretty class-less, in my opinion !!
I don't know either one of them but obviously Eli is a super competitive guy, maybe he'd have rather have gotten second in a real battle instead of having JS pull over and make sure he got the win (that Eli thought he was going to get anyway ? ) I could see him being pissed because he was convinced he was going to catch him anyway, and when JS bagged it and slowed down it made it an "illegitimate win ?" Maybe Eli didn't want any help ? I don't know but it would explain why Eli wasn't all gushy saying thank you, thank you so much for handing me the win, .........the win that I would have got anyway....
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bvm111 9/13/2019 2:52pm
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walent215 wrote:
Tomac was gonna pass him anyway.
Thank you captain obvious but that’s not the point now is it?
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lawson34 9/13/2019 2:56pm
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Langhammx wrote:
Lesson learned ! I’m pretty sure that if you were in his shoes, you’d be feeling the same way. He may not make everyone happy with...
Lesson learned !

I’m pretty sure that if you were in his shoes, you’d be feeling the same way. He may not make everyone happy with how he comes off in the interview, but Joey has good reason to feel the way he does about it, IMO.
Tomac could have parked Joey on his way to the front, which is the argument, I get it... but he could've gone down in the process as well.
A simple thanks or a nice dinner after the race would’ve been a nice thing to do. Not even acknowledging the move by Joey was pretty class-less, in my opinion !!
sumdood wrote:
I don't know either one of them but obviously Eli is a super competitive guy, maybe he'd have rather have gotten second in a real battle...
I don't know either one of them but obviously Eli is a super competitive guy, maybe he'd have rather have gotten second in a real battle instead of having JS pull over and make sure he got the win (that Eli thought he was going to get anyway ? ) I could see him being pissed because he was convinced he was going to catch him anyway, and when JS bagged it and slowed down it made it an "illegitimate win ?" Maybe Eli didn't want any help ? I don't know but it would explain why Eli wasn't all gushy saying thank you, thank you so much for handing me the win, .........the win that I would have got anyway....
Exactly... I would've thanked him for fueling anti Tomac people and tarnishing a huge accomplishment, I'm sure it embarrased the shit out of him too..
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Langhammx 9/13/2019 3:18pm
9/13/2019 3:18pm
Langhammx wrote:
Lesson learned ! I’m pretty sure that if you were in his shoes, you’d be feeling the same way. He may not make everyone happy with...
Lesson learned !

I’m pretty sure that if you were in his shoes, you’d be feeling the same way. He may not make everyone happy with how he comes off in the interview, but Joey has good reason to feel the way he does about it, IMO.
Tomac could have parked Joey on his way to the front, which is the argument, I get it... but he could've gone down in the process as well.
A simple thanks or a nice dinner after the race would’ve been a nice thing to do. Not even acknowledging the move by Joey was pretty class-less, in my opinion !!
sumdood wrote:
I don't know either one of them but obviously Eli is a super competitive guy, maybe he'd have rather have gotten second in a real battle...
I don't know either one of them but obviously Eli is a super competitive guy, maybe he'd have rather have gotten second in a real battle instead of having JS pull over and make sure he got the win (that Eli thought he was going to get anyway ? ) I could see him being pissed because he was convinced he was going to catch him anyway, and when JS bagged it and slowed down it made it an "illegitimate win ?" Maybe Eli didn't want any help ? I don't know but it would explain why Eli wasn't all gushy saying thank you, thank you so much for handing me the win, .........the win that I would have got anyway....
I’ve known Joey since he was on 65’s. He’s a good kid, from a good family and definitely not a liar or story teller. I’m just happy he shaved that dumb beard off.... Laughing
Like I said already, I have little doubt that Eli could of and probably would’ve caught Joey to win the race. You have valid points, that have been brought up by others as well... I just get the feeling that Eli doesn’t care much for Joey and the way he went about handling it, kinda shows that, IMO.
Eli has always kinda kept to himself over the years, I watched him grow up at the amateur nationals and he didn’t hang around with the other kids much after the races were over, the family took the racing thing VERY serious and it seemed to work out for them.
Not that Joey and his family didn’t take it serious, because they definitely did !! They moved to Georgia to let him pursue his racing career when he was still on 80’s, including living at MTF.

Too many people passing judgement on him for actually speaking his mind, but I wouldn’t expect any less. Everyone entitled to their opinion...
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lawson34 9/13/2019 3:22pm
9/13/2019 3:22pm
He's a rider I pull for, never met him tho...He interacts with fans on social media that's cool most do not..
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motonation24 9/13/2019 3:50pm
9/13/2019 3:50pm
hvaughn88 wrote:
I have no idea how these insured payouts work for a race like that, but is it possible that if the insurance company learned that Eli...
I have no idea how these insured payouts work for a race like that, but is it possible that if the insurance company learned that Eli paid Savatgy for moving over that it could potentially void the payout? Just a theory, but who knows.
I agree that’s why a confidential settlement was needed and probably wait a significant amount of time
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slumpstone 9/13/2019 4:20pm
9/13/2019 4:20pm
GrapeApe wrote:
This in incredibly ironic. Have you checked your post history? Your only purpose here is to talk shit on riders, teams, etc. No wonder where Joey...
This in incredibly ironic. Have you checked your post history? Your only purpose here is to talk shit on riders, teams, etc. No wonder where Joey gets it from.
Yeah sure bud, whatever you say.
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GuyB 9/13/2019 4:32pm
9/13/2019 4:32pm
GrapeApe wrote:
This in incredibly ironic. Have you checked your post history? Your only purpose here is to talk shit on riders, teams, etc. No wonder where Joey...
This in incredibly ironic. Have you checked your post history? Your only purpose here is to talk shit on riders, teams, etc. No wonder where Joey gets it from.
Fail. Hey, send me an email when you're ready to be a little more civil.
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Frère Jacques 9/13/2019 5:18pm
9/13/2019 5:18pm
Hoks wrote:
Interesting pourcel would post this considering he never paid his mechanic any bonus money from his winnings.
If your bike blowing up cost you a million dollar bonus would you be in the giving mood?
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CPR 9/13/2019 5:21pm
9/13/2019 5:21pm
Did Osbourne pay Savatgy that other time he pulled over? Laughing
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Hoks 9/13/2019 5:32pm
9/13/2019 5:32pm
Hoks wrote:
Interesting pourcel would post this considering he never paid his mechanic any bonus money from his winnings.
Frère Jacques wrote:
If your bike blowing up cost you a million dollar bonus would you be in the giving mood?
Couple championships and a lot of races wins, and not a dime to his mechanic. A bike blowing up could happen anytime. It’s a shitty way to treat the guys in your corner.
Ghostrider145 9/13/2019 5:50pm
9/13/2019 5:50pm
When a person doesn’t say thank you I always wonder how they were raised. That’s just me though. Joey has to move on at this point. Live and learn...

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gt80rider 9/13/2019 6:01pm
9/13/2019 6:01pm
Popcorn mode engaged... Hehehe
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Excaliburbmx 9/13/2019 6:02pm
9/13/2019 6:02pm
Excaliburbmx wrote:
Tomac was coming fast. No way Joey was going to hold him off. He wilted and pulled over because he knew Tomac was flying.
Trevor91 wrote:
must not have listened to the podcast then lol. Joey said he was slowing down to the point where it wasn't super obvious and planned to...
must not have listened to the podcast then lol. Joey said he was slowing down to the point where it wasn't super obvious and planned to let eli by outside the stadium. he's not as down as some of u think he is...
I’m sure Tomac didn’t ask him or any other competitor to ever let him by. He has either flew through the pack to wins or sometimes settled.

Joey should worry about that title he left in Vegas more than his inability to race for the win and do himself justice.
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GforceCoatings 9/13/2019 6:12pm
9/13/2019 6:12pm
He is a top 10 SX and MX guy. No ride. What the fuck is wrong with our sport is the real question here. Not some joke 1 off shit race for monster energy
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bama205 9/13/2019 6:29pm
9/13/2019 6:29pm
brett12486 wrote:
Taken from pourcels post since the interview is transcribed. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/09/13/372861/s1200_743F18E0_D65B_4AE5_A767_1DFDAE2A9C21.jpg[/img]
Taken from pourcels post since the interview is transcribed.
is he drunk or just plain dumb?
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slipdog 9/13/2019 6:42pm
9/13/2019 6:42pm
Hopefully, Joey can just let his riding do the talking next year if the casino money ever materializes.
powertrip456 9/13/2019 6:55pm
9/13/2019 6:55pm
GforceCoatings wrote:
He is a top 10 SX and MX guy. No ride. What the fuck is wrong with our sport is the real question here. Not some...
He is a top 10 SX and MX guy. No ride. What the fuck is wrong with our sport is the real question here. Not some joke 1 off shit race for monster energy
I am completely behind this. It’s honestly embarrassing.
Harry Backmon 9/13/2019 7:11pm
9/13/2019 7:11pm
GrapeApe wrote:
This in incredibly ironic. Have you checked your post history? Your only purpose here is to talk shit on riders, teams, etc. No wonder where Joey...
This in incredibly ironic. Have you checked your post history? Your only purpose here is to talk shit on riders, teams, etc. No wonder where Joey gets it from.
GuyB wrote:
Fail. Hey, send me an email when you're ready to be a little more civil.
Seriously, Steve? You booted my gigantic purple friend? Over that? He didn't threaten him.
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Max D 9/13/2019 7:22pm
9/13/2019 7:22pm Edited Date/Time 9/13/2019 7:26pm
Ray_MXS wrote:
What I don't understand is that he seems oblivious to the consequences of all this. Let's say Joey doesn't get a ride for next year and...
What I don't understand is that he seems oblivious to the consequences of all this.

Let's say Joey doesn't get a ride for next year and has to privateer/couch.
Eli or Adam gets hurt and Kawi needs a fill-in. Does he think they'll call him after this?
Honestly, I’m guessing JS would say no anyhow. Classy move by a good dude. Good people have been getting the raw end of the stick since the beginning of time. Glad he learned his lesson though, when it comes to competing. Maybe Eli can learn a life lesson from all this. Side note: I am a huge fan of both riders
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GuyB 9/13/2019 7:24pm
9/13/2019 7:24pm
Harry Backmon wrote:
Seriously, Steve? You booted my gigantic purple friend? Over that? He didn't threaten him.
Yep.
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Spat24 9/13/2019 7:40pm
9/13/2019 7:40pm
People complain when riders give vanilla interviews but when one tells you what he is really thinking - you throw him under the bus. Good on Joey for being transparent. He has a chip on his shoulder now and will be cool to see him get more aggressive on the track - not taking others out, but fast hard riding!! I am hoping he gets that ride and shows what he can do.
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slipdog 9/13/2019 8:21pm
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Harry Backmon wrote:
Seriously, Steve? You booted my gigantic purple friend? Over that? He didn't threaten him.
GuyB wrote:
Yep.
Joey's dad?
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tingo 9/13/2019 8:47pm
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Excaliburbmx wrote:
Tomac was coming fast. No way Joey was going to hold him off. He wilted and pulled over because he knew Tomac was flying.
Trevor91 wrote:
must not have listened to the podcast then lol. Joey said he was slowing down to the point where it wasn't super obvious and planned to...
must not have listened to the podcast then lol. Joey said he was slowing down to the point where it wasn't super obvious and planned to let eli by outside the stadium. he's not as down as some of u think he is...
The lap times tell a different story.
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whateversclever69 9/13/2019 8:51pm
9/13/2019 8:51pm
Tomac is a spoiled brat. He’s acted like one several times. This forum loves him because he hunts in the off-season and builds fences and they relate to that, but he’s not a warm person. I’m in no way surprised that he didn’t thank savatgy.

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tcallahan707 9/13/2019 8:51pm
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GrapeApe wrote:
This in incredibly ironic. Have you checked your post history? Your only purpose here is to talk shit on riders, teams, etc. No wonder where Joey...
This in incredibly ironic. Have you checked your post history? Your only purpose here is to talk shit on riders, teams, etc. No wonder where Joey gets it from.
GuyB wrote:
Fail. Hey, send me an email when you're ready to be a little more civil.
Harry Backmon wrote:
Seriously, Steve? You booted my gigantic purple friend? Over that? He didn't threaten him.
Seems to be the new way around here.

I recommend Reddit (r/motocross) if your friend is looking for another place to talk moto.
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