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Nuffsaid 5/30/2019 12:16pm
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kb228 wrote:
Come race SX and MX and see who is on top. GP guys are Outdoor specialists who has 1 guy who runs a little faster than...
Come race SX and MX and see who is on top. GP guys are Outdoor specialists who has 1 guy who runs a little faster than the US and GP field. Yet the majority of the GP field will get smoked in supercross.

Yea yea say SX doesnt matter but in reality its the biggest stage in the world and thats what the OEMs pay most for for results.

Compare both SX and MX or dont compare at all. The US riders are doing more than the GP guys which is gnarly in itself.

The fact that 1 country is so good they have to be compared to the combination of the rest of the world tells all. How many countries does it take to beat the USA?
Barrett57 wrote:
It takes 4 countries to beat the USA. France, NL, Great Britain and Australia.
Hard to count how many countries have beaten the USA in the last 7 years of the MXdN
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cbuehler767 5/30/2019 12:25pm
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Herlings goes 1-4 coming off his injury at the Dutch Masters today. Insanity. He's so effing talented.
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theToothPerry 5/30/2019 12:27pm
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kb228 wrote:
Come race SX and MX and see who is on top. GP guys are Outdoor specialists who has 1 guy who runs a little faster than...
Come race SX and MX and see who is on top. GP guys are Outdoor specialists who has 1 guy who runs a little faster than the US and GP field. Yet the majority of the GP field will get smoked in supercross.

Yea yea say SX doesnt matter but in reality its the biggest stage in the world and thats what the OEMs pay most for for results.

Compare both SX and MX or dont compare at all. The US riders are doing more than the GP guys which is gnarly in itself.

The fact that 1 country is so good they have to be compared to the combination of the rest of the world tells all. How many countries does it take to beat the USA?
theToothPerry wrote:
Roczen was a GP guy.....He came over and did well immediately. Same with Musquin, Pourcel, Ferrandis. I can go on.
seventeen wrote:
I bet my list of riders that did not do well is bigger than yours that did...dare to compare? And besides the overwhelming majority on that...
I bet my list of riders that did not do well is bigger than yours that did...dare to compare?

And besides the overwhelming majority on that list of "well do'ers" are French...and that is fine by me...
Okay, but we are talking about the top dogs coming over to the US...I can find mid pack riders also.
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theToothPerry wrote:
Roczen was a GP guy.....He came over and did well immediately. Same with Musquin, Pourcel, Ferrandis. I can go on.
I seriously doubt we will ever see JH in the US full time like those guys. Would be great if he did though. But why would he???

Clearly, KR94 wanted to be known as the best and that drove him to come to the USA. But things are a little different these days it seems. The GP's have more clout in the racing world.
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roninho 5/30/2019 2:27pm
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Good for the GPs. Might take a few races but then we have 3 guys capable of winning.
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biscuit11 5/30/2019 4:06pm
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I love watching Herlings ride, but he has to figure out a way to stay healthy. He has 1 championship in 3 years on the big bike. The year he won the championship he still got hurt and missed time. Every year it happens it isnt by chance at this point. Sure you can argue hes faster than Eli outdoors, but you gotta be on the track to win races and championships.
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Rushton597 5/30/2019 4:10pm
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kb228 wrote:
Come race SX and MX and see who is on top. GP guys are Outdoor specialists who has 1 guy who runs a little faster than...
Come race SX and MX and see who is on top. GP guys are Outdoor specialists who has 1 guy who runs a little faster than the US and GP field. Yet the majority of the GP field will get smoked in supercross.

Yea yea say SX doesnt matter but in reality its the biggest stage in the world and thats what the OEMs pay most for for results.

Compare both SX and MX or dont compare at all. The US riders are doing more than the GP guys which is gnarly in itself.

The fact that 1 country is so good they have to be compared to the combination of the rest of the world tells all. How many countries does it take to beat the USA?
theToothPerry wrote:
Roczen was a GP guy.....He came over and did well immediately. Same with Musquin, Pourcel, Ferrandis. I can go on.
seventeen wrote:
I bet my list of riders that did not do well is bigger than yours that did...dare to compare? And besides the overwhelming majority on that...
I bet my list of riders that did not do well is bigger than yours that did...dare to compare?

And besides the overwhelming majority on that list of "well do'ers" are French...and that is fine by me...
lets flip it in the other direction. how many Americans have moved on to do well in the gp's?
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theToothPerry wrote:
Roczen was a GP guy.....He came over and did well immediately. Same with Musquin, Pourcel, Ferrandis. I can go on.
seventeen wrote:
I bet my list of riders that did not do well is bigger than yours that did...dare to compare? And besides the overwhelming majority on that...
I bet my list of riders that did not do well is bigger than yours that did...dare to compare?

And besides the overwhelming majority on that list of "well do'ers" are French...and that is fine by me...
Rushton597 wrote:
lets flip it in the other direction. how many Americans have moved on to do well in the gp's?
Moved on? From AMA in the U.S.? There is no moving on. This is where its at. Those that cross the pond to come here .. stay here. It's pretty much a one way street.
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kb228 wrote:
Come race SX and MX and see who is on top. GP guys are Outdoor specialists who has 1 guy who runs a little faster than...
Come race SX and MX and see who is on top. GP guys are Outdoor specialists who has 1 guy who runs a little faster than the US and GP field. Yet the majority of the GP field will get smoked in supercross.

Yea yea say SX doesnt matter but in reality its the biggest stage in the world and thats what the OEMs pay most for for results.

Compare both SX and MX or dont compare at all. The US riders are doing more than the GP guys which is gnarly in itself.

The fact that 1 country is so good they have to be compared to the combination of the rest of the world tells all. How many countries does it take to beat the USA?
How many countries does it take to beat France or Italy?
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Frank 5/30/2019 8:06pm
5/30/2019 8:06pm Edited Date/Time 5/30/2019 8:10pm
kb228 wrote:
Come race SX and MX and see who is on top. GP guys are Outdoor specialists who has 1 guy who runs a little faster than...
Come race SX and MX and see who is on top. GP guys are Outdoor specialists who has 1 guy who runs a little faster than the US and GP field. Yet the majority of the GP field will get smoked in supercross.

Yea yea say SX doesnt matter but in reality its the biggest stage in the world and thats what the OEMs pay most for for results.

Compare both SX and MX or dont compare at all. The US riders are doing more than the GP guys which is gnarly in itself.

The fact that 1 country is so good they have to be compared to the combination of the rest of the world tells all. How many countries does it take to beat the USA?
Dude your an idiot. Look at your down votes. USA sucks at motocross and as a country. Can't win a MXoN, highest crime, highest obesity, highest incarceration, highest drug use, lowest avg iq, most hours worked,etc. What the fuck are you proud of?
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Frank wrote:
Dude your an idiot. Look at your down votes. USA sucks at motocross and as a country. Can't win a MXoN, highest crime, highest obesity, highest...
Dude your an idiot. Look at your down votes. USA sucks at motocross and as a country. Can't win a MXoN, highest crime, highest obesity, highest incarceration, highest drug use, lowest avg iq, most hours worked,etc. What the fuck are you proud of?
I am plenty proud of the USA. If you don't appreciate it here you are not thinking right.
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byke 5/30/2019 8:22pm
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Humans in general aren't all that impressive. Give people the freedom to be awful and they'll be awful. Take away the freedom to be awful and you don't have freedom. Neither method produces mindblowing results, because they both involve people.
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woody woodpecker 5/30/2019 8:28pm
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byke wrote:
Humans in general aren't all that impressive. Give people the freedom to be awful and they'll be awful. Take away the freedom to be awful and...
Humans in general aren't all that impressive. Give people the freedom to be awful and they'll be awful. Take away the freedom to be awful and you don't have freedom. Neither method produces mindblowing results, because they both involve people.
Don't know if you're in the wrong thread, or maybe the wrong forum, but either way you're a moran.
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byke 5/30/2019 8:40pm
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Haha, no argument there. I should probably get a brain.
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tommyjif 5/30/2019 10:38pm
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I think Jh at his best will just battle with Tony and Gajser. I don't think he is any faster then them at their best, he...
I think Jh at his best will just battle with Tony and Gajser.
I don't think he is any faster then them at their best, he is just more arrogant (Tony's best for me was 2012 2013, not last year).
visser62 wrote:
DId you even watch the series last year? Peak Herlings is much faster than Cairoli and Gajser.
Yes, surely I did.
And I confirm that last year Tony was not the fastest Tony I’ve seen live. That’s it
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enduro8 5/30/2019 10:44pm
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Was so excited earlier this year with rumors he might come race the outdoor series after healing up. Feels like he'd be hard to beat, but hard to know for sure without lining up week in and out.
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CalimeroFan 5/31/2019 12:40am
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Herlings was out for 5 months, comes back racing and is 2 seconds faster in qualifying than the 2nd guy and wins the first race and still people have something to say because he didn't win race 2 too. He lead that race as well, but had huge armpump, which is logical after being out for so long.

I think the competiton knows they have to be afraid cause he's gonna win a lot of GP's in the 2nd half of the season. This is just a start
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tommyjif 5/31/2019 1:12am
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CalimeroFan wrote:
Herlings was out for 5 months, comes back racing and is 2 seconds faster in qualifying than the 2nd guy and wins the first race and...
Herlings was out for 5 months, comes back racing and is 2 seconds faster in qualifying than the 2nd guy and wins the first race and still people have something to say because he didn't win race 2 too. He lead that race as well, but had huge armpump, which is logical after being out for so long.

I think the competiton knows they have to be afraid cause he's gonna win a lot of GP's in the 2nd half of the season. This is just a start
He is a professional, he would not come back if he is not pretty much ready to go.
Did you expect him to race just to train?

Expectations are high because he pumps them himself: let's see what happens in Russia, it's the only first serious test.
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Ray_MXS 5/31/2019 1:14am
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byke wrote:
Haha, no argument there. I should probably get a brain.
Even if you posted in the wrong thread, your post was 1000% more intelligent and reasonable than all these idiots turning another thread in to a Herlings vs Tomac/EU vs US bullshit for the millionth time.
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CalimeroFan 5/31/2019 1:36am
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tommyjif wrote:
He is a professional, he would not come back if he is not pretty much ready to go. Did you expect him to race just to...
He is a professional, he would not come back if he is not pretty much ready to go.
Did you expect him to race just to train?

Expectations are high because he pumps them himself: let's see what happens in Russia, it's the only first serious test.
Obviously never raced yourself, let alone had to come back after a serious injury. No one ever, not Everts, not Carmichael, not Bubba, not Cairoli can comeback after 5 months of injury and be racefit. You're high dude.
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tommyjif 5/31/2019 1:41am
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tommyjif wrote:
He is a professional, he would not come back if he is not pretty much ready to go. Did you expect him to race just to...
He is a professional, he would not come back if he is not pretty much ready to go.
Did you expect him to race just to train?

Expectations are high because he pumps them himself: let's see what happens in Russia, it's the only first serious test.
CalimeroFan wrote:
Obviously never raced yourself, let alone had to come back after a serious injury. No one ever, not Everts, not Carmichael, not Bubba, not Cairoli can...
Obviously never raced yourself, let alone had to come back after a serious injury. No one ever, not Everts, not Carmichael, not Bubba, not Cairoli can comeback after 5 months of injury and be racefit. You're high dude.
I may be high, but you're surely higher than me.
RC came back after after 5 months and did a perfect season. Do you need anything else?
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r18b 5/31/2019 1:52am
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tommyjif wrote:
He is a professional, he would not come back if he is not pretty much ready to go. Did you expect him to race just to...
He is a professional, he would not come back if he is not pretty much ready to go.
Did you expect him to race just to train?

Expectations are high because he pumps them himself: let's see what happens in Russia, it's the only first serious test.
CalimeroFan wrote:
Obviously never raced yourself, let alone had to come back after a serious injury. No one ever, not Everts, not Carmichael, not Bubba, not Cairoli can...
Obviously never raced yourself, let alone had to come back after a serious injury. No one ever, not Everts, not Carmichael, not Bubba, not Cairoli can comeback after 5 months of injury and be racefit. You're high dude.
This above..

Sa the race yesterday. He is no where the speed he had before the injury. This weekend he is going to do a adac race. Even with those 2 races he is not ready for the speed what the 2 man in front of the mxgp have. Only thing what he will do is race himself in shape if he lines up in russia. Same what coldenhoff is doing. Both have a road to go. Hope they will be on fire in Assen.
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SlasherMcGee 6/1/2019 8:59am
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Let me know when he lines up at A1.
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SlasherMcGee wrote:
Let me know when he lines up at A1.
What a statement from you. I respect you.
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theToothPerry wrote:
Roczen was a GP guy.....He came over and did well immediately. Same with Musquin, Pourcel, Ferrandis. I can go on.
seventeen wrote:
I bet my list of riders that did not do well is bigger than yours that did...dare to compare? And besides the overwhelming majority on that...
I bet my list of riders that did not do well is bigger than yours that did...dare to compare?

And besides the overwhelming majority on that list of "well do'ers" are French...and that is fine by me...
Rushton597 wrote:
lets flip it in the other direction. how many Americans have moved on to do well in the gp's?
Why go to the GP's ....for fuck sake...they dont even pay prize m9ney and cant fill a 40 man gate...the United States is where it is at.
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seventeen 6/1/2019 9:37am
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byke wrote:
Humans in general aren't all that impressive. Give people the freedom to be awful and they'll be awful. Take away the freedom to be awful and...
Humans in general aren't all that impressive. Give people the freedom to be awful and they'll be awful. Take away the freedom to be awful and you don't have freedom. Neither method produces mindblowing results, because they both involve people.
I agree with this ideology...mostly.
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