Chad Reed in for 2019... BUT

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7/15/2018 3:06pm
He has my respect for whatever decision. Half of yall can't even put down the cell phone to get to the track.
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He's still one of the top 3 draw cards in the sport. Who has a longer autograph line, Barcia or Reed? The entire JGR team or Reed? Probably even the reigning SX champ or Reed? He's not wrong and he knows his value in that sense. Also who can argue his point about the sports superstars? When the 3 most dominant riders of the last 20 years (RC,RV,RD) all retire in there mid 20's then there has to be a reason.

Any team would hire Reed for the right price i'm sure. Problem will be what is that price? I'm guessing he doesn't want to ride for free but his recent results cant have him demand the price i'm sure he's thinking. If a team with a spot can meet him in the middle in regards to money then i'm sure he'll give them a decent return on investment.

As far as his results go, if he's riding right now and gets an off season without any injury's you'd be mad to think he wont top 5 next year at some point.
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This is just my view (obviously) but I thought he didnt gel that well on the Husky this year, in saying that you never write him off...I certainly used to and got proven wrong...he got my respect with his results and what he has done for the sport.
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BobKerr wrote:
Many people wrote Chad off in 2014, but then he did this:



zehn wrote:
Next SX season will be 5 years since that happened. The hero worship is real
But 4 years since this happened




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BobKerr wrote:
Many people wrote Chad off in 2014, but then he did this:



zehn wrote:
Next SX season will be 5 years since that happened. The hero worship is real
jemcee wrote:
But 4 years since this happened




What appears to be written on his shirt in red letters ?
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zehn wrote:
Next SX season will be 5 years since that happened. The hero worship is real
jemcee wrote:
But 4 years since this happened




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What appears to be written on his shirt in red letters ?
”Im not gay, but 20$ is 20$”
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7/16/2018 4:39am Edited Date/Time 7/16/2018 4:54am
jemcee wrote:
But 4 years since this happened




VRR7 wrote:
What appears to be written on his shirt in red letters ?
Lastander wrote:
”Im not gay, but 20$ is 20$”
Discount Tires.
The largest independent tire dealer in the USA.
Somehow, Reed got them to pay for a good chunk of his team for a bit.
Unlike the majority of the rest, he actually brought in some money from outside the sport, or his mom and dad.

Awesome feat. To not realize this, is really stupid, imho.

This is where they are now.......http://www.discounttirefamily.com/nascar-cup-series-sponsorship/
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Chad "ummm" Reed.
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7/16/2018 8:40am Edited Date/Time 7/16/2018 8:43am
Reed rides for Fox, who only signs 2-3 450 riders and probably pays the most, but he can't get a factory ride. Why???

Because as soon as he gets a bad result he shits all over the bike and blames the team. Then he wonders why it's been so hard to get on a factory team.

I respect how tough he is and the fact that he put his own team together, but I've never been able to stand the way he blames the bike and the team at the drop of a hat. Rarely or never hear Dungey or Villopoto blaming the motorcycle.


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To me the riders who are best at marketing are the best riders for a team. Teams want exposure and Reed is one of the best in the industry at giving the team and sponsors just that,

Even though his last seaon was poor he has to still be one of the best options for any team to pick up. I still beleive he can win on a bike he likes with a team that fully supports him.
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7/16/2018 9:08am Edited Date/Time 7/16/2018 9:09am
agn5009 wrote:
I just don't see him getting a ride.
I don't have a good enough understanding of the team/business side of the sport.

But Reed has the longest autograph line at Supercross races. He has the loudest cheering sections. Even if he finishes 10th every week, he probably provides nearly as much exposure as anybody else on the track.

Does Feld ever considering finding ways to sponsor riders? Isn't it in Feld's best interest to make sure guys like Reed or Stewart are racing as long as they are willing to?
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7/16/2018 9:23am
As of the start of the 2019 SX season...

- Five years since Reed last won a race (January 2015)
- Four years since Reed got back-to-back podiums (January 2016)
- Three years since Reed last got a podium (January 2017)
- Nearly three years since reed last got a Top 5 (March 2017)

I'll GLADLY take that bet... I'll pay out $100 for every top 5 Reed gets and get paid $100 for every finish outside of the Top 5 (injuries or mechanical issues I'll even allow for a wash).
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7/16/2018 9:28am
RichieW13 wrote:
I don't have a good enough understanding of the team/business side of the sport. But Reed has the longest autograph line at Supercross races. He has...
I don't have a good enough understanding of the team/business side of the sport.

But Reed has the longest autograph line at Supercross races. He has the loudest cheering sections. Even if he finishes 10th every week, he probably provides nearly as much exposure as anybody else on the track.

Does Feld ever considering finding ways to sponsor riders? Isn't it in Feld's best interest to make sure guys like Reed or Stewart are racing as long as they are willing to?
This. Love him or hate him, Reed knows how to draw eyeballs and excitement. He is the last of the Mohicans from a golden age in the sport for many fans. People miss the big personalities and intense rivalries we watched a decade ago. Marv and Eli's battles are fun to watch on the track, but off track they're both about as exciting as stale bread, and neither of them is outspoken enough to keep the rivalry "going." Roczen has the right personality and skills but no real "rival" (other than Webb, who has absolutely nothing for him, on track or off) to create a little drama. If I were a team with some $$ and an eye on getting exposure, I would sign Reed in a heartbeat.
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7/16/2018 9:29am
BroFoSho wrote:
As of the start of the 2019 SX season... - Five years since Reed last won a race (January 2015) - Four years since Reed got...
As of the start of the 2019 SX season...

- Five years since Reed last won a race (January 2015)
- Four years since Reed got back-to-back podiums (January 2016)
- Three years since Reed last got a podium (January 2017)
- Nearly three years since reed last got a Top 5 (March 2017)

I'll GLADLY take that bet... I'll pay out $100 for every top 5 Reed gets and get paid $100 for every finish outside of the Top 5 (injuries or mechanical issues I'll even allow for a wash).
I think you need to work on your math.
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7/16/2018 9:29am
BroFoSho wrote:
As of the start of the 2019 SX season... - Five years since Reed last won a race (January 2015) - Four years since Reed got...
As of the start of the 2019 SX season...

- Five years since Reed last won a race (January 2015)
- Four years since Reed got back-to-back podiums (January 2016)
- Three years since Reed last got a podium (January 2017)
- Nearly three years since reed last got a Top 5 (March 2017)

I'll GLADLY take that bet... I'll pay out $100 for every top 5 Reed gets and get paid $100 for every finish outside of the Top 5 (injuries or mechanical issues I'll even allow for a wash).
Your math needs help.
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7/16/2018 9:34am
BroFoSho wrote:
As of the start of the 2019 SX season... - Five years since Reed last won a race (January 2015) - Four years since Reed got...
As of the start of the 2019 SX season...

- Five years since Reed last won a race (January 2015)
- Four years since Reed got back-to-back podiums (January 2016)
- Three years since Reed last got a podium (January 2017)
- Nearly three years since reed last got a Top 5 (March 2017)

I'll GLADLY take that bet... I'll pay out $100 for every top 5 Reed gets and get paid $100 for every finish outside of the Top 5 (injuries or mechanical issues I'll even allow for a wash).
Common Core math right here folks!!
7/16/2018 11:01am
BroFoSho wrote:
As of the start of the 2019 SX season... - Five years since Reed last won a race (January 2015) - Four years since Reed got...
As of the start of the 2019 SX season...

- Five years since Reed last won a race (January 2015)
- Four years since Reed got back-to-back podiums (January 2016)
- Three years since Reed last got a podium (January 2017)
- Nearly three years since reed last got a Top 5 (March 2017)

I'll GLADLY take that bet... I'll pay out $100 for every top 5 Reed gets and get paid $100 for every finish outside of the Top 5 (injuries or mechanical issues I'll even allow for a wash).
Your math needs help.

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7/16/2018 11:03am
BroFoSho wrote:
As of the start of the 2019 SX season... - Five years since Reed last won a race (January 2015) - Four years since Reed got...
As of the start of the 2019 SX season...

- Five years since Reed last won a race (January 2015)
- Four years since Reed got back-to-back podiums (January 2016)
- Three years since Reed last got a podium (January 2017)
- Nearly three years since reed last got a Top 5 (March 2017)

I'll GLADLY take that bet... I'll pay out $100 for every top 5 Reed gets and get paid $100 for every finish outside of the Top 5 (injuries or mechanical issues I'll even allow for a wash).
Your math needs help.
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7/16/2018 11:11am
Reeds results arent there. Thats all there is to it. A team has the choice between 10th place guys and reed. One is 18 and can be molded and worked into someone great. The other is 36 and has been stuck in his ways and wants a huge paycheck. Simple really. You want to pay $40,000 for 10th place or $500,000 for 10th place? I want to see reed race as much as the next guy but he needs to realize hes past his prime.
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2018 was obviously a very bad year for Chad, starting out injured and never really getting fit. But if we go back to 2017 he had a podium and very well could have won Vegas in the bunch-up, if not for Anderson giving him the punt.

Why should someone sponsor Chad? Well, he can still pull a podium in a Supercross. On the right night, he might win. And he has a MASSIVE fan base, and his presence in the pits still pulls in the people. I know he has a lot of people who hate him, and I was not a fan at all 10 years ago, but since his 2011 comeback he's won me over. I honestly think the sport is better with him in it and racing, and if he wants to race then we are all better off.
7/16/2018 11:24am
kb228 wrote:
Reeds results arent there. Thats all there is to it. A team has the choice between 10th place guys and reed. One is 18 and can...
Reeds results arent there. Thats all there is to it. A team has the choice between 10th place guys and reed. One is 18 and can be molded and worked into someone great. The other is 36 and has been stuck in his ways and wants a huge paycheck. Simple really. You want to pay $40,000 for 10th place or $500,000 for 10th place? I want to see reed race as much as the next guy but he needs to realize hes past his prime.
Pretty sure he realizes he's past his prime. Obviously those numbers you throw out have been pulled from thin air, but he provides more value than the other guy getting 10th. He sells more shit than the other guy getting 10th. There is a difference, therefore, he deserves to make more.
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This. Love him or hate him, Reed knows how to draw eyeballs and excitement. He is the last of the Mohicans from a golden age in...
This. Love him or hate him, Reed knows how to draw eyeballs and excitement. He is the last of the Mohicans from a golden age in the sport for many fans. People miss the big personalities and intense rivalries we watched a decade ago. Marv and Eli's battles are fun to watch on the track, but off track they're both about as exciting as stale bread, and neither of them is outspoken enough to keep the rivalry "going." Roczen has the right personality and skills but no real "rival" (other than Webb, who has absolutely nothing for him, on track or off) to create a little drama. If I were a team with some $$ and an eye on getting exposure, I would sign Reed in a heartbeat.
I agree with 90% of this post. I have said the same thing about James Stewart more times here than I can remember. Yes...there is apparently drama that comes with signing Team Stewart, but how much is the publicity and sheer exposure a team will surely get just for signing JS7 worth in comparison? I know James is a goner, but the situation can be applied to guys like Reedy now...

A guy from Feld told me, and some others in the press box at the St. Louis SX several years ago that they could tell a definate difference in ticket sales when Stewart wasn't racing and when he was. The excitement pushed the ticket sales.

Same with Reed. Somebody will sign Chad for the benefits that come with it...and will put up with his sizable ego, his arrogance, his whiney-baby attitude & his age...because everybody's eyes are on him during a race if he's anywhere close to the front runners. They know that if the planets line up, and everything is in perfect place...Reed might even beat the youngsters one more time, and that's worth the price of admission.
7/16/2018 11:56am
This. Love him or hate him, Reed knows how to draw eyeballs and excitement. He is the last of the Mohicans from a golden age in...
This. Love him or hate him, Reed knows how to draw eyeballs and excitement. He is the last of the Mohicans from a golden age in the sport for many fans. People miss the big personalities and intense rivalries we watched a decade ago. Marv and Eli's battles are fun to watch on the track, but off track they're both about as exciting as stale bread, and neither of them is outspoken enough to keep the rivalry "going." Roczen has the right personality and skills but no real "rival" (other than Webb, who has absolutely nothing for him, on track or off) to create a little drama. If I were a team with some $$ and an eye on getting exposure, I would sign Reed in a heartbeat.
davistld01 wrote:
I agree with 90% of this post. I have said the same thing about James Stewart more times here than I can remember. Yes...there is apparently...
I agree with 90% of this post. I have said the same thing about James Stewart more times here than I can remember. Yes...there is apparently drama that comes with signing Team Stewart, but how much is the publicity and sheer exposure a team will surely get just for signing JS7 worth in comparison? I know James is a goner, but the situation can be applied to guys like Reedy now...

A guy from Feld told me, and some others in the press box at the St. Louis SX several years ago that they could tell a definate difference in ticket sales when Stewart wasn't racing and when he was. The excitement pushed the ticket sales.

Same with Reed. Somebody will sign Chad for the benefits that come with it...and will put up with his sizable ego, his arrogance, his whiney-baby attitude & his age...because everybody's eyes are on him during a race if he's anywhere close to the front runners. They know that if the planets line up, and everything is in perfect place...Reed might even beat the youngsters one more time, and that's worth the price of admission.
The big difference is statistically speaking Reed will make it through the complete season compared to James who will likely not.
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7/16/2018 1:55pm Edited Date/Time 7/16/2018 2:00pm
Knobbyjake wrote:
Legend in his own mind. If he goes who will Ralph drool all over?
Zycki11 wrote:
Yeah because he has such terrible stats... Somebody clip this fool
Hey asshat, 2 250 titles in 15 years is not legendary. It's an accomplishment but he acts like he's Carmichael level. Clip you.
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7/16/2018 2:20pm
haydos25 wrote:
He's still one of the top 3 draw cards in the sport. Who has a longer autograph line, Barcia or Reed? The entire JGR team or...
He's still one of the top 3 draw cards in the sport. Who has a longer autograph line, Barcia or Reed? The entire JGR team or Reed? Probably even the reigning SX champ or Reed? He's not wrong and he knows his value in that sense. Also who can argue his point about the sports superstars? When the 3 most dominant riders of the last 20 years (RC,RV,RD) all retire in there mid 20's then there has to be a reason.

Any team would hire Reed for the right price i'm sure. Problem will be what is that price? I'm guessing he doesn't want to ride for free but his recent results cant have him demand the price i'm sure he's thinking. If a team with a spot can meet him in the middle in regards to money then i'm sure he'll give them a decent return on investment.

As far as his results go, if he's riding right now and gets an off season without any injury's you'd be mad to think he wont top 5 next year at some point.
I can say for sure, Roczen had the longest line (Probably twice as long as anyone else) at A1 this year
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kb228 wrote:
Reeds results arent there. Thats all there is to it. A team has the choice between 10th place guys and reed. One is 18 and can...
Reeds results arent there. Thats all there is to it. A team has the choice between 10th place guys and reed. One is 18 and can be molded and worked into someone great. The other is 36 and has been stuck in his ways and wants a huge paycheck. Simple really. You want to pay $40,000 for 10th place or $500,000 for 10th place? I want to see reed race as much as the next guy but he needs to realize hes past his prime.
This.

I don't think teams are unaware of Chad's pulling power, but that pulling power comes at a cost.

1. Monetary - Chad isn't going to ride for little or no money (like the guys he's placing next to) and teams have obviously decided that having the longest autograph line in the pits is not worth the money he's asking.

2. Ego - I don't see Chad being a good #2 on any team. If I was a team manager I'd be worried about that.
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7/16/2018 2:36pm
Knobbyjake wrote:
Legend in his own mind. If he goes who will Ralph drool all over?
Zycki11 wrote:
Yeah because he has such terrible stats... Somebody clip this fool
Knobbyjake wrote:
Hey asshat, 2 250 titles in 15 years is not legendary. It's an accomplishment but he acts like he's Carmichael level. Clip you.
He has 1 250sx title, 1 450mx title, 2 450sx titles. Just to be accurate. And he’s 4th in all time SX wins.
So in SX, who is legendary?
7/16/2018 2:50pm Edited Date/Time 7/16/2018 2:55pm
davistld01 wrote:
I agree with 90% of this post. I have said the same thing about James Stewart more times here than I can remember. Yes...there is apparently...
I agree with 90% of this post. I have said the same thing about James Stewart more times here than I can remember. Yes...there is apparently drama that comes with signing Team Stewart, but how much is the publicity and sheer exposure a team will surely get just for signing JS7 worth in comparison? I know James is a goner, but the situation can be applied to guys like Reedy now...

A guy from Feld told me, and some others in the press box at the St. Louis SX several years ago that they could tell a definate difference in ticket sales when Stewart wasn't racing and when he was. The excitement pushed the ticket sales.

Same with Reed. Somebody will sign Chad for the benefits that come with it...and will put up with his sizable ego, his arrogance, his whiney-baby attitude & his age...because everybody's eyes are on him during a race if he's anywhere close to the front runners. They know that if the planets line up, and everything is in perfect place...Reed might even beat the youngsters one more time, and that's worth the price of admission.
I was at the Foxborough race this spring, and while primarily famous for "The Incident," there was also a gem of a heat race battle between Tomac and Reed. The crowd, including myself, was absolutely NUTS for it. Worth the price of admission on its own, especially since, judging by rider intro applause levels, both were the clear fan favorites. Also showed that even out of shape, privateer Reed can still bring it.

And it's amazing how strong the "Bubba effect" is...to the point where MALCOLM (not Jason Anderson or [pre-incident] Musquin) was the only rider whose cheers rivaled Reed's or Tomac's. The fact that you can find a tee for Mookie, but not Peick, at the merchandise stand speaks volumes about the power of James' celebrity by being merely RELATED to him.
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kb228 wrote:
Reeds results arent there. Thats all there is to it. A team has the choice between 10th place guys and reed. One is 18 and can...
Reeds results arent there. Thats all there is to it. A team has the choice between 10th place guys and reed. One is 18 and can be molded and worked into someone great. The other is 36 and has been stuck in his ways and wants a huge paycheck. Simple really. You want to pay $40,000 for 10th place or $500,000 for 10th place? I want to see reed race as much as the next guy but he needs to realize hes past his prime.
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This. I don't think teams are unaware of Chad's pulling power, but that pulling power comes at a cost. 1. Monetary - Chad isn't going to...
This.

I don't think teams are unaware of Chad's pulling power, but that pulling power comes at a cost.

1. Monetary - Chad isn't going to ride for little or no money (like the guys he's placing next to) and teams have obviously decided that having the longest autograph line in the pits is not worth the money he's asking.

2. Ego - I don't see Chad being a good #2 on any team. If I was a team manager I'd be worried about that.
I think the reason the teams don't want him is because he trashes the bike if he doesn't do well.

They'd pay the price and they're fine with top 10s and a big autograph line, but what good does it do you if he then starts blaming the bike? Then he's actually hurting your brand. And he has done that with every single bike he's ridden.
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I'm real curious to know the details of all these offers that Reed has turned down because they were not enough money. I hope the experts here on Vital can help.

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