loosing interest

queen of spodes wrote:

The bikes are partly why it's not as crazy exciting now (or at least as often). Everybody knows four strokes put power to the ground different...

The bikes are partly why it's not as crazy exciting now (or at least as often).

Everybody knows four strokes put power to the ground different and anyone from novice to champ will tell you they are much easier and smoother to ride.

Back up 20 years. Two strokes are lighter, more power per CC, and have light-switch powerbands. They are hard to ride and harder to ride fast (for most of us). Lighter weight and hard hitting power curves meant the bikes hopped and danced more on the track. Put a bunch of guys together on that same equipment and races look more exciting, especially in the outdoors.

Pros today didn't come up on two strokes like RC and JS7. That era of racer is fading away and Chad is really the only one left here in the states (he also prefers four strokes and says they are smoother and easier to race).

Riders today are smoother and faster because of the bikes. Track builders changed jump spacing to accommodate the evolved rider and machine. It's natural it looks different because it is.

queen of spodes wrote:

The bikes are partly why it's not as crazy exciting now (or at least as often). Everybody knows four strokes put power to the ground different...

The bikes are partly why it's not as crazy exciting now (or at least as often).

Everybody knows four strokes put power to the ground different and anyone from novice to champ will tell you they are much easier and smoother to ride.

Back up 20 years. Two strokes are lighter, more power per CC, and have light-switch powerbands. They are hard to ride and harder to ride fast (for most of us). Lighter weight and hard hitting power curves meant the bikes hopped and danced more on the track. Put a bunch of guys together on that same equipment and races look more exciting, especially in the outdoors.

Pros today didn't come up on two strokes like RC and JS7. That era of racer is fading away and Chad is really the only one left here in the states (he also prefers four strokes and says they are smoother and easier to race).

Riders today are smoother and faster because of the bikes. Track builders changed jump spacing to accommodate the evolved rider and machine. It's natural it looks different because it is.

jonesaustin wrote:

Very well stated.

Smoproracing_Smoproracing wrote:

So can it be the way the tracks are designed? Rythm triple rythm whoops. As much as people hated it the mud race in Seattle was...

So can it be the way the tracks are designed? Rythm triple rythm whoops. As much as people hated it the mud race in Seattle was bye far the most exciting to me outside of Brayton winning his first this year , I'm suprised Brayton didn't win his first at the mudder , outside ot that every venue has been a sleeper , Nascar starts earlier on Sundays with no tape delay . The tape delay also had a play in me loosing interest.

Jarid332 wrote:

I think once Seely got hurt the viewership went down. #SeelyNation.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

OK, I got to ask. What's with the obsession over Seely?

Smoproracing_Smoproracing wrote:

I'm all ears bob from PA , being from PA you saying and old steele city or mt morris or sleepy hollow or foglesville race is...

I'm all ears bob from PA , being from PA you saying and old steele city or mt morris or sleepy hollow or foglesville race is less exciting as the last 3 yrs old Nascar MX is ? Outside of Brayton win what made this soo exciting ? Last year too ? Mookie maybe trying to getting a top 5 , pieck too ? I'm rooting for a dude to finish top tens don't Even car who wins anymore

Hammer 663s wrote:

Go find a Vet class and do some gate drops. Regain appreciation for the skill it takes to do this. Get your kid racing too but...

Go find a Vet class and do some gate drops. Regain appreciation for the skill it takes to do this. Get your kid racing too but for fun, not because you want to have the next Emig. (he won't be). Spend sunny Saturdays at the track, riding together, have a sandwich in the sun on the ramp of the trailer and look at your bikes, talking about what sections you rocked and how good he is getting. Make him help load and unload the trailer, and watch while you clean the bikes. Then sit in the garage with your boy, have a cold beer, and look at your clean bikes and talk about how much fun you had. It don't get more awesome than that, and I'm doing exactly this on Sunday.

Mike

mark_swart wrote:

I think there are a few dynamics here. First off, there is a fine balance between having a dominant / favorite in an era, and just...

I think there are a few dynamics here. First off, there is a fine balance between having a dominant / favorite in an era, and just having enough parity to cause chaos. Right now, we have some fast dudes, but we are in somewhat of a power vacuum in the Post Dungey era. That parity should be a good thing, but unfortunately we aren't seeing the battles up front that you might think. We see a lot of runaways because 3 of the 4 screwed up the starts or got hurt.

Bikes are great, riders are smart / strategic, and the stakes are super high now in terms of crashes. Watch Anaheim 86 or Atlanta 90 - those guys made a ton of small mistakes, swapped positions, and it kept things interesting. To me it seems like since the four stroke era, we see a lot of precision and ''cat and mouse" with a couple guys out front at near the same pace, but with so few mistakes there isn't much bar banging at the front. We see too many catastrophic crashes that just end guys hopes for the season. IMO, the best race of 17 so far has been the really rutted one where Roczen and Anderson kept going back and forth. They couldn't stay consistent and that made it interesting.

I've also been following since the 80s, and part of it is basically... we all grow up and don't have the singleminded interested we used to have. I have that spark for the first 3-4 weeks, after that I can handle watching races on DVR the next day and fast forwarding through it. And in the case of SX.... with 17 rounds, the trend for most seasons has been for someone to have a big lead by this point. Not too exciting to watch someone manage a championship (yawn). At least when MC was doing it, he was setting records for race wins (even though I remember that being pretty boring at the time too.) The last few years of RC's career, we had Stew and Reed, and even though RC won, those two kept it interesting.

Hero worship is also part of it I think. While I certainly respect the current generation, there's a big difference between how I feel about them as a 45 year old and how I felt about RJ and Bailey and Bradshaw when I was a teenager. Honestly I'd probably be more nervous and goofy around any of those dudes if I talked to them tomorrow than I would be talking with any of our modern stars. And I think that's okay. Maybe try to think about how today's stars look through your son's eyes, and help him pick a favorite to follow and root for?

Smoproracing_Smoproracing wrote:

I can't blame the love of the sport on age being my father lined up in the plus 50 class this week at age 61. I...

I can't blame the love of the sport on age being my father lined up in the plus 50 class this week at age 61. I guess we will always love to ride but the coverage and the way promotion has gone may just crush it .

Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:

Start watching the GP's, your interest will definitely come back watching that series especially the deep sand races.