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It dosent help when two of the bigger stars there didn't come close to finishing the first race.
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Yes it was boring. I watched first main and then turned it off and watched a movie.
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early wrote:
Seemed like a ton of downtime in the show. I fell asleep.
Let’s see, a show that runs from 6:30 to 10:00 - 3 1/2 hours has this amount of racing; (approximate time)

Cup races - 31 minutes
All stars - 13.3 minutes
Super-mini 14.8 minutes
KJSC 5 minutes

Total race time 1:04

Commercials and misc. bs - 2:26

That explain it?
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Jesus christ I hate threads like this. I don’t give a damn if you find it boring its an opportunity to win a million dollars, something never throught to happen years ago and our sport has grown large enough to hold an event like this.

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Track was horrrrrible
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Just watched and MM was on it and Deano looked good. Tickle had great pace too. Although not too many battles, watching Marv go for a cool Monster Mill was pretty exciting IMHO. It was good to watching some racing, so MEC is still thumbs up for me.
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Joker lane was irrelevant, just like last year. IDK what they need to do with it..... but it needs a major change to help mix the...
Joker lane was irrelevant, just like last year.

IDK what they need to do with it..... but it needs a major change to help mix the race up.
Got to agree. Having a Joker lane that is faster just means everyone takes at the beginning of the race. I don’t think the faster joker lane adds anything. In the past when it was slower there was some strategy to it.
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tprice07 wrote:
I like the concept of MEC, great testing ground for both supercross as an event (3 main events, joke lane, split start) and also for the...
I like the concept of MEC, great testing ground for both supercross as an event (3 main events, joke lane, split start) and also for the riders. The problem to me is the timing. No one wants to "peak" 2-3 months before the season starts. I wish this would push closer to Nov/Dec.

Red Bull Straight Rhythm is a perfect off season exhibition race to me. Relatively minimal physical commitment. Head-to-head competition meaning you aren't going to end up in 10th place in a particular race. I'm pumped for Straight Rhythm, hopefully we have some interesting things come out soon about it to hype it up even more.
^ This

Joker lane has been tried slower and faster now. Time to change it again or get rid of it. I'd call this a fail. The old slower joker lane I thought was better. Debatable whether or not it should be used for more general track features.
The split lane start is a success.
Drop start is OK. Transition from step to flat seems unnecessary - should be smoother to allow the guys to grab gears earlier.
High speed rhythm lanes got alot more guy injured and the top guys did the same thing and weren't catching or gapping anyone later in the races. A tight turn before the rhythm with an inside/out option might provide better racing.
Mini race was awesome. I thought that was the race I'd tune out of but was the most interesting.

And absolutely should be Nov/Dec.

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Would not bother me in the least if this race went bye bye. As someone said RC is not a good track designer. He has created a couple of real stinkers at Daytona. This track used to be more hybrid and last night it seemed like nothing but typical SX with some dangerous rythyms (imo). The real shark jumper for me was that janky ass start ramp... PfrickinU!
woody woodpecker 10/15/2017 7:52am
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As nice as it was to see Marv win the million I have to agree it was damn boring to watch. I had it on split screen with the Showtime boxing matches and ended up mostly watching those.
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M-M 10/15/2017 7:56am
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And forum members insisted the MEC was more important than the Mxdn. Not even close.
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nascarnate326 10/15/2017 8:07am
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Don't want to jump on the bandwagon but it was boring this year. Track was so so, riders crashing out sucks, and its an hour too late IMO.

Im much more excited for RBSR this year. Maybe monster cup needs a two stroke class to mix things up?
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BobbyM 10/15/2017 8:16am
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Please Mouthbreathers... Take up golf.
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spd721 10/15/2017 8:23am
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Once Tomac crashed out, I zoned out of the race.
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nascarnate326 wrote:
Don't want to jump on the bandwagon but it was boring this year. Track was so so, riders crashing out sucks, and its an hour too...
Don't want to jump on the bandwagon but it was boring this year. Track was so so, riders crashing out sucks, and its an hour too late IMO.

Im much more excited for RBSR this year. Maybe monster cup needs a two stroke class to mix things up?
I have to agree with the others here mentioning RBSR. I’ve not really seen the event in its entirety, mostly because of it having to be streamed (I have very slow internet), but the excitement level is always high. Unless someone screws up a section, every race is close, and isn’t that what we all really hope to see.
See, I prefer MX over SX anyway, so my opinion will always be biased. Now, give me a SX like Atlanta ‘90 and you have me hooked. I was lucky enough to be there for that race and I’ll tell ya, seeing it on TV doesn’t do it justice.
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731chopper 10/15/2017 8:31am
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Last night was probably the most boring Monster Cup there has been in my opinion. It was cool to see Marv win the million and his reaction to it by riding around and showing off was awesome but the racing itself was terrible.
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Jay Cee wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/10/15/220251/s1200_Sad_ppl_meme.jpg[/img]


Nobody is sad, just it was a boring race that anyone could see.

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tprice07 wrote:
I like the concept of MEC, great testing ground for both supercross as an event (3 main events, joke lane, split start) and also for the...
I like the concept of MEC, great testing ground for both supercross as an event (3 main events, joke lane, split start) and also for the riders. The problem to me is the timing. No one wants to "peak" 2-3 months before the season starts. I wish this would push closer to Nov/Dec.

Red Bull Straight Rhythm is a perfect off season exhibition race to me. Relatively minimal physical commitment. Head-to-head competition meaning you aren't going to end up in 10th place in a particular race. I'm pumped for Straight Rhythm, hopefully we have some interesting things come out soon about it to hype it up even more.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Straight Rhythm + 2 Strokes = Don't need to know more than that.

BRAAAP!
People complain on Mec,. Rbsr is the weaker version of that.
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KDXGarage 10/15/2017 9:09am
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We all got a preview of next year. Eli and Musquin are still faster than all the others. For me, when Tomac went down, it was just observing whether or not Musquin crashed on the way to a million dollars. If it was not so hard packed and dusty, then we could have handed him the check before Tomac stopped rolling on the ground.

I was glad to see it all, but there is a lot of down time on the SX shows. Can you imagine that for cars or street motorcycles?
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DYE 10/15/2017 9:10am
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motomike137 wrote:
Would not bother me in the least if this race went bye bye. As someone said RC is not a good track designer. He has created...
Would not bother me in the least if this race went bye bye. As someone said RC is not a good track designer. He has created a couple of real stinkers at Daytona. This track used to be more hybrid and last night it seemed like nothing but typical SX with some dangerous rythyms (imo). The real shark jumper for me was that janky ass start ramp... PfrickinU!
So you would rather have no racing to watch (besides RBSR) until January
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motomike137 10/15/2017 10:32am
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motomike137 wrote:
Would not bother me in the least if this race went bye bye. As someone said RC is not a good track designer. He has created...
Would not bother me in the least if this race went bye bye. As someone said RC is not a good track designer. He has created a couple of real stinkers at Daytona. This track used to be more hybrid and last night it seemed like nothing but typical SX with some dangerous rythyms (imo). The real shark jumper for me was that janky ass start ramp... PfrickinU!
DYE wrote:
So you would rather have no racing to watch (besides RBSR) until January
That would be perfectly fine with me. Let the 3 healthy/picked riders focus on MXON and give them all more much needed off season time.
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tprice07 wrote:
I like the concept of MEC, great testing ground for both supercross as an event (3 main events, joke lane, split start) and also for the...
I like the concept of MEC, great testing ground for both supercross as an event (3 main events, joke lane, split start) and also for the riders. The problem to me is the timing. No one wants to "peak" 2-3 months before the season starts. I wish this would push closer to Nov/Dec.

Red Bull Straight Rhythm is a perfect off season exhibition race to me. Relatively minimal physical commitment. Head-to-head competition meaning you aren't going to end up in 10th place in a particular race. I'm pumped for Straight Rhythm, hopefully we have some interesting things come out soon about it to hype it up even more.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Straight Rhythm + 2 Strokes = Don't need to know more than that.

BRAAAP!
mxb2 wrote:
People complain on Mec,. Rbsr is the weaker version of that.
To each their own but personally I prefer Red Bull Straight Rhythm. It's a different format. All out sprint and best out of three advances to next round bracket style. Only thing that would make it even better is 4 wide. It's also streamed online for free. What better way to reach a whole bunch of people throughout the world. It might not be everyone's cup of tea but they do a far better job at marketing their event compared to MEC which has a Million dollar purse. You would think that with that kind of money you would see advertisements everywhere but no.

MEC is not that different than a regular SX race except that it's three 10 lap main events with a gimmick called the Joker Lane. The broadcast was 3 1/2 hours long and cost $30 which in my opinion way is too much for a single event. Sure there's a million dollars on the line but if someone else wins the second main event it just becomes like any other SX race. I wish they would simply get rid of this event completely as I don't believe it's needed. The best part of the night is watching the superminis rip it up.
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mxb2 10/15/2017 10:52am
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Straight Rhythm + 2 Strokes = Don't need to know more than that.

BRAAAP!
mxb2 wrote:
People complain on Mec,. Rbsr is the weaker version of that.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
To each their own but personally I prefer Red Bull Straight Rhythm. It's a different format. All out sprint and best out of three advances to...
To each their own but personally I prefer Red Bull Straight Rhythm. It's a different format. All out sprint and best out of three advances to next round bracket style. Only thing that would make it even better is 4 wide. It's also streamed online for free. What better way to reach a whole bunch of people throughout the world. It might not be everyone's cup of tea but they do a far better job at marketing their event compared to MEC which has a Million dollar purse. You would think that with that kind of money you would see advertisements everywhere but no.

MEC is not that different than a regular SX race except that it's three 10 lap main events with a gimmick called the Joker Lane. The broadcast was 3 1/2 hours long and cost $30 which in my opinion way is too much for a single event. Sure there's a million dollars on the line but if someone else wins the second main event it just becomes like any other SX race. I wish they would simply get rid of this event completely as I don't believe it's needed. The best part of the night is watching the superminis rip it up.
I watch them all, I love dirt bikes. 2+4 strokes. But a 40 second Sprint isn't close to a main event, or a outdoor national. You can't hide lack of fitness or preparation. in sx or outdoor mx.
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DYE 10/15/2017 11:18am
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motomike137 wrote:
Would not bother me in the least if this race went bye bye. As someone said RC is not a good track designer. He has created...
Would not bother me in the least if this race went bye bye. As someone said RC is not a good track designer. He has created a couple of real stinkers at Daytona. This track used to be more hybrid and last night it seemed like nothing but typical SX with some dangerous rythyms (imo). The real shark jumper for me was that janky ass start ramp... PfrickinU!
DYE wrote:
So you would rather have no racing to watch (besides RBSR) until January
motomike137 wrote:
That would be perfectly fine with me. Let the 3 healthy/picked riders focus on MXON and give them all more much needed off season time.
To each their own I guess. I would love nothing more than being paid to be in shape and race motorcycles. Sucks it's such a burden on them to race.
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1HRCrider 10/15/2017 11:23am
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Must have been weird for Monster to have the winner show casing a RedBull.. also to attract more top racers, if nobody wins the million, it should be carried over until someone does. Last night would have been worth 6 or 7 million.
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therealhammer 10/15/2017 11:28am
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mxb2 wrote:
I watch them all, I love dirt bikes. 2+4 strokes. But a 40 second Sprint isn't close to a main event, or a outdoor national. You...
I watch them all, I love dirt bikes. 2+4 strokes. But a 40 second Sprint isn't close to a main event, or a outdoor national. You can't hide lack of fitness or preparation. in sx or outdoor mx.
No one is saying RBSR is supposed to be close or replicate a main in Supercross or a national race. We have 30 of these races a year, one more SX or MX race isn't going to help the sport any.

MX is your marathon

SX is your Mile

RBSR is your 100M Sprint...

Something that offers potentially a new type of rider to shine for the weekend... or maybe Marvin will prove he is the best at Rhythm yet again.

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mxb2 10/15/2017 11:29am
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mxb2 wrote:
I watch them all, I love dirt bikes. 2+4 strokes. But a 40 second Sprint isn't close to a main event, or a outdoor national. You...
I watch them all, I love dirt bikes. 2+4 strokes. But a 40 second Sprint isn't close to a main event, or a outdoor national. You can't hide lack of fitness or preparation. in sx or outdoor mx.
therealhammer wrote:
No one is saying RBSR is supposed to be close or replicate a main in Supercross or a national race. We have 30 of these races...
No one is saying RBSR is supposed to be close or replicate a main in Supercross or a national race. We have 30 of these races a year, one more SX or MX race isn't going to help the sport any.

MX is your marathon

SX is your Mile

RBSR is your 100M Sprint...

Something that offers potentially a new type of rider to shine for the weekend... or maybe Marvin will prove he is the best at Rhythm yet again.

Agreed.
queen of spodes 10/15/2017 11:31am
10/15/2017 11:31am
I watched part of moto 2 then bailed to check out the youtube postings this morning. Fast forwarded through most of that.

I'm way more excited about RBSR, with the variety of bikes this year. MEC feels stale and I'd rather see them cut one of the premier classes and add an alternate big bike class, with electrics and/or two strokes.

Motocross83 10/15/2017 11:32am
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The problem is, due the nature of the event, once a rider has a significant crash (enough to leave them bruised and shaken) then there's no motivation to continue. They can't win the million at that point and probably didn't want to be there desperately in the first place. That's NOT to suggest that Eli was OK and couldn't be bothered - he was clearly hurt. But again, because there are no points on the line and nothing (at that point - since it can't be won from then on) at stake, a rider has little reason to continue. Marvin was way a head of everyone bar perhaps Anderson. Once ET was out that was it.
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