Ricky Johnson on Tomac and the MXoN

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8/11/2017 10:03am
ehr400 wrote:
I would like a rule change for the MXDN, I think whoever wins should be the host country the following year. That way there is a...
I would like a rule change for the MXDN, I think whoever wins should be the host country the following year. That way there is a incentive for guys to want to do good infront of their home crowds. Maybe bring out more stars. See how pumped most of these euro chest thumpers are, knowing they have to come outside their backyard to do MXDN's. Since there is no money for winning teams, atleast give incentive to play into the previous years champions.
"No touchy" on this ... Talk to Ruy and get it done to your satisfaction. He has the bestest plan.
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8/11/2017 10:04am
I don't get mad when riders don't go, but back in the day...if RJ or Ward were to announce that they didn't feel like going to the MXDN, it would have been unthinkable.
There is definitely passion missing in today's racing, that we took for granted back then. Sometimes you can just feel what a grind it is for these guys these days. They don't seem to have the fun they used to.
8/11/2017 10:08am
I know I posted in this thread saying you can't argue with RJ, but honestly if most riders and teams hope to not be picked for one reason or another something needs to change. I'm not saying the change needs to be made on the GP or the AMA side, but somewhere something needs to change. It's pretty clear that the event has become more of an inconvenience to most people and that is disappointing.
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8/11/2017 10:27am
ehr400 wrote:
I would like a rule change for the MXDN, I think whoever wins should be the host country the following year. That way there is a...
I would like a rule change for the MXDN, I think whoever wins should be the host country the following year. That way there is a incentive for guys to want to do good infront of their home crowds. Maybe bring out more stars. See how pumped most of these euro chest thumpers are, knowing they have to come outside their backyard to do MXDN's. Since there is no money for winning teams, atleast give incentive to play into the previous years champions.
agn5009 wrote:
The USA would never lose. They would absolutely positively never lose on their home soil. So it would be held in the USA every single year.
Are you an actual PSU Alumnus?

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I know I posted in this thread saying you can't argue with RJ, but honestly if most riders and teams hope to not be picked for...
I know I posted in this thread saying you can't argue with RJ, but honestly if most riders and teams hope to not be picked for one reason or another something needs to change. I'm not saying the change needs to be made on the GP or the AMA side, but somewhere something needs to change. It's pretty clear that the event has become more of an inconvenience to most people and that is disappointing.
Right now the race is only important to GP riders, Fans and whomever is trying to cash in on the event,it has to become more important To the Manufactures and Big ticket sponsors and should be written into contracts.

Until it is, we will have the same issue year after year, I would wager a change in race date would just garner new excuses.
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8/11/2017 10:42am
ehr400 wrote:
I would like a rule change for the MXDN, I think whoever wins should be the host country the following year. That way there is a...
I would like a rule change for the MXDN, I think whoever wins should be the host country the following year. That way there is a incentive for guys to want to do good infront of their home crowds. Maybe bring out more stars. See how pumped most of these euro chest thumpers are, knowing they have to come outside their backyard to do MXDN's. Since there is no money for winning teams, atleast give incentive to play into the previous years champions.
agn5009 wrote:
The USA would never lose. They would absolutely positively never lose on their home soil. So it would be held in the USA every single year.
Wel, perhaps the rest of the world against us would be a little more level playing field, we always have to go to their back yards, just like Canada. Just because it is in our backyard doesnt gaurantee anything, I mean France has been killing it last few years. Spoils goes to the victors right?
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8/11/2017 11:00am
Props to RJ, a living legend, for speaking out like that... I totally agree with him...

As far as ET goes... He probably doesn't regret his decision now, but 20 yrs from now, when he is no longer in the limelight, he will... He will regret having the chance to represent his country and not doing so... He will regret not showing the world he was the fastest man on the planet at that time... He will regret not having helped our team take the win home....
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8/11/2017 11:09am
Bret wrote:
Some of you seem to believe that Eli was the only person involved in making the decision not to go. I'd wager that it doesn't really...
Some of you seem to believe that Eli was the only person involved in making the decision not to go. I'd wager that it doesn't really work like that. I say cut him some slack.
I will cut him some slack for this. However, if Eli wanted to go, Kawasaki would support him. In the long run, all he has to say is, "Bruce, I want to race the MXDN."

Oh well, I'm over it. Like I said though, it's disappointing.
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8/11/2017 11:09am
RJ should just be happy that Ron Lechien never trained and not be so critical.
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8/11/2017 11:18am Edited Date/Time 8/11/2017 9:02pm
2004 "Bird" is erect again...http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2004/09/01september04_nomxdn/

GUIslurpeeeee is like 'Jabba'...

If ANY country/rider wouldn't relish the opportunity to ass-whip the United States of America riders, any time, anywhere... "Well, we were busy shopping"... "We are tired"... "It doesn't matter"... "Series is OVER"....

Total BS

GP Fan Boys, this USGP track should yield a fairly even situation. About as even as it gets. It is another round dictated and approved by the governing FIM body... FEEL THE BRUNT. Henry Miller? Be vewy, vewy careful.

I read that Herlings is taking it fairly seriously, which is cool. He and AC222 are great riders.

EDIT: Had to uppercase a few letters and props.

8/11/2017 12:00pm
I'm bummed he is not going but I respect the man's decision to do what he wants. Like we all do.

However, I wonder how many of you are pissed because you think we won't win and it really has nothing to do with "honor" and "representing your country." What if it was a random draw who went and some privateer said he didn't want to go. Would we be hearing all the same comments? I highly doubt it.

Yes Eli pussed out. Oh well.
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8/11/2017 12:09pm
NorCal 50+ wrote:
I don't get mad when riders don't go, but back in the day...if RJ or Ward were to announce that they didn't feel like going to...
I don't get mad when riders don't go, but back in the day...if RJ or Ward were to announce that they didn't feel like going to the MXDN, it would have been unthinkable.
There is definitely passion missing in today's racing, that we took for granted back then. Sometimes you can just feel what a grind it is for these guys these days. They don't seem to have the fun they used to.
The thing is....some of those guys and quite a few others did pass on it. It's nothing new really. I wish Eli would go too , but he ain't. Which kinda sucks.
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8/11/2017 12:15pm
mx617 wrote:
Go to the mxgptv site and pay $10 or $15, whatever it is they're charging. Speaking of which, though I don't necessarily think the riders should...
Go to the mxgptv site and pay $10 or $15, whatever it is they're charging.

Speaking of which, though I don't necessarily think the riders should get paid, I don't think the teams should really be out of pocket either. At least maybe the top ten? If you make the A main your travel and expenses should be paid for the next year. I think there's gotta be enough ticket and TV revenue to cover that, no?
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I can sit on my couch and watch Supercross live on Saturday nights,I can watch the MEC live. I can watch Red Bull SR live. Yet...
I can sit on my couch and watch Supercross live on Saturday nights,I can watch the MEC live. I can watch Red Bull SR live. Yet I cant click on my T.V. and watch,from what I read here,the most "Prestigious" race in MX live? How important is this race again?
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Well I don't feel too bad for you as I can't "click on my tv" and watch any of those things live in Canada. But it's...
Well I don't feel too bad for you as I can't "click on my tv" and watch any of those things live in Canada. But it's just as easy to "click on my computer" to do it. And it can be done from anywhere in the world. Maybe give that a shot and see how your couch likes it.
Canada has the interweb!?
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8/11/2017 12:16pm
Which riders available to the USA have been on a winning MXoN team?
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8/11/2017 12:25pm
mx617 wrote:
Well I don't feel too bad for you as I can't "click on my tv" and watch any of those things live in Canada. But it's...
Well I don't feel too bad for you as I can't "click on my tv" and watch any of those things live in Canada. But it's just as easy to "click on my computer" to do it. And it can be done from anywhere in the world. Maybe give that a shot and see how your couch likes it.
It is kinda crappy there is no apple/amazon/roku tv apps for MXGP or MOTOGP streaming to your tv. Are those add-ons not as popular in Europe? I dont know.
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8/11/2017 12:27pm
SwingHard wrote:
I can sit on my couch and watch Supercross live on Saturday nights,I can watch the MEC live. I can watch Red Bull SR live. Yet...
I can sit on my couch and watch Supercross live on Saturday nights,I can watch the MEC live. I can watch Red Bull SR live. Yet I cant click on my T.V. and watch,from what I read here,the most "Prestigious" race in MX live? How important is this race again?
mx617 wrote:
Well I don't feel too bad for you as I can't "click on my tv" and watch any of those things live in Canada. But it's...
Well I don't feel too bad for you as I can't "click on my tv" and watch any of those things live in Canada. But it's just as easy to "click on my computer" to do it. And it can be done from anywhere in the world. Maybe give that a shot and see how your couch likes it.
SwingHard wrote:
Canada has the interweb!?
Just got it! On my 56k dial up modem. Only thing is I have to hope that the party line isn't busyPinch
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8/11/2017 12:34pm Edited Date/Time 8/11/2017 12:49pm
Yep wrote:
Which riders available to the USA have been on a winning MXoN team?
We shall hear them announced soon.

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa... I got you covered. Always have. You have a short intellectual leash. Beg for a longer one... Here's BISCUIT!

Good Boy...
8/11/2017 12:35pm
KC435 wrote:
RJ should just be happy that Ron Lechien never trained and not be so critical.
Oh snap!Pinch
8/11/2017 2:05pm Edited Date/Time 8/11/2017 2:06pm
doofy wrote:
I didn't go thru every single reply but, how would any of you guys feel if your boss approached you and said hey I need you...
I didn't go thru every single reply but, how would any of you guys feel if your boss approached you and said

hey I need you to do this additional job, that could potentially put you out of work for the foreseeable future, oh and the pay is zero.

would you jump?

at the same time every rider is in this same predicament when asked to go. however Id rather a guy that would kill for the opportunity then one who feels obligated
As a designer I've done this several times (especially in the early days of my career), free work or a concept or similar for a company that in the long run gave me paid work. So "yes" normal people do jump at the chance to work for free if it's beneficial in the long run.

By going to MXDN Eli would become more popular with fans which in the long run could/will earn him more money. Also I'm pretty sure he would get bonuses from sponsors if he did good.
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8/11/2017 2:53pm
Unfortunately sports are more about business than they are about sport nowadays , years ago riders raced and had a good time doing it , now it is more of a job than a sport .
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8/11/2017 2:57pm
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As a designer I've done this several times (especially in the early days of my career), free work or a concept or similar for a company...
As a designer I've done this several times (especially in the early days of my career), free work or a concept or similar for a company that in the long run gave me paid work. So "yes" normal people do jump at the chance to work for free if it's beneficial in the long run.

By going to MXDN Eli would become more popular with fans which in the long run could/will earn him more money. Also I'm pretty sure he would get bonuses from sponsors if he did good.
You're risk vs reward is far different than Eli's.
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Speaking as a fan, the Des Nations don't feel like they used to. I remember being nervous before the motos began and I remember being heartbroken when Team USA lost in 1994 and 1995. Now? I couldn't care less.

Maybe it's age, but the event just doesn't feel as important as it once did.
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8/11/2017 4:31pm Edited Date/Time 8/11/2017 4:43pm
Yep wrote:
Which riders available to the USA have been on a winning MXoN team?
Your act is so tired . You really are a sad pathetic soul . I actually pity you.
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8/11/2017 4:40pm
The difference is if he goes and breaks his leg, all of those who sat back and called Eli a fool or coward or this or that go on living their lives and say well that sucks for him, but Eli watches his first potential SX title and millions of dollars go down the drain.

Yes we all work jobs that are at sometimes demanding, but does anyone do work even in the same ballpark as dangerous as moto?


If the guy who landed on Anderson had landed a few more inches one way or another, it could have been a very different situation. Possibly career ending/life altering
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http://www.mxlarge.com/2017/08/10/ricky-johnson-interview-mxon/ MXLarge: Firstly, it’s a tough sport, long seasons and stuff, but what is your opinion of Eli not wanting to race the event? Johnson: Extremely...
http://www.mxlarge.com/2017/08/10/ricky-johnson-interview-mxon/


MXLarge: Firstly, it’s a tough sport, long seasons and stuff, but what is your opinion of Eli not wanting to race the event?

Johnson: Extremely disappointed. His father represented America when he rode mountain biking, and the thing that lasts with you forever, is when you represent something other than your manufacture, or yourself. We never got paid, I mean I had it set-up I got bonuses from a lot of my sponsors, we didn’t get money, and we didn’t go there for money, we went there for our country and to represent our sport. I am just very disappointed.

MXlarge: When Eli mentioned the tough schedule, I get that, but I don’t think you guys had it any easier than they do now? I am also guessing the bikes were harder to ride back then, as despite you guys being fit, the modern technology probably has these athlete’s fitter now than ever?

Johnson: I raced all the time. I loved racing, I argued with teams and companies for the money, because that was the prize for winning, but you race for money in a series, but I liked racing all the time, because I loved the feeling when I beat everybody. One of the races where I really was hurt was when I was beaten at the USGP by Eric Geboers. He went 1-2 and I went 3-1 and he looked at me with the first-place trophy and said, “you are only as good as your last ride, and I just beat you.” I had beaten his ass so many times, but in our last race together, he beat me. I was so angry. So, I understand the schedule and I understand where he is making his money, I understand all that, but when you are the guy who can make the whole country stand up and be proud, and you choose not to, I can’t side with you.

MXLarge: I remember you raced a pretty long schedule, sometimes starting in January and ending in October, then you would do two classes, plus SX, and a bunch of International races after all that. Did you ever have a year when you were too burnt out, and didn’t want to go, but went anyway?

Johnson: I never felt that way for des Nations. I used to do the Golden State series to warm up, then we would intermingle the 250cc championship and the supercross series, so you were always swapping bikes and your style. Then we had all the European races, like the Masters of Motocross, the Fastcross, I used to race in Holland, Belgium, Bercy, we were all over the place and part of it was we loved doing it also a couple of USGPs. We didn’t really have an off-season, just weekends off. The one year I declined was when I had my broken wrist, I think in 1990. They had me on a 125, and I was going to do it and I was testing and I felt fast on it, but my wrist wasn’t holding out. I remember thinking, if I go, and I am a big guy on a 125 and I lose for the team, that was why I passed and they took Kiedrowski in my place.

MXlarge: Mind you, back in the 80s and 90s you could have picked three or four A-team for America. It isn’t like that anymore. I mean in your era you had multiple AMA champions all in the same class, this year’s 450 class doesn’t have a single AMA 450 champion in it.

Johnson: What I would do, I could be pitching for Ryan Dungey. Tell him to blow the dust off his riding boots and have Osborne and if he was fit Anderson. Or maybe Thomas Covington on the MX2 bike. I think Ryan Dungey would kill it. What do I think that, because look at him in that last race in Las Vegas this year, when everything was on the line, and he gets the holeshot, he couldn’t afford a second-place start. When it comes to crunch time, there is nobody as good as Ryan Dungey. I don’t care if he is eating hot dogs and drinking beer, he would still be strong enough to do well there. I am not saying he would win everything, because Cairoli and Herlings and those guys, they are fast over there.

MXlarge: You were in an era where you dominated everything. Do you think these guys are struggling because they have been beaten and they go there now knowing that is a possibility? You guys went to the MXoN knowing you were the best team and had a big shot at winning it.

Johnson: I don’t think so, I think it’s just self-preservation and they have big contracts and don’t want to get hurt and lose out on that. I think that is what it is.

MXLarge: I was reading an interview on racerxonline with the HRC team-manager in America and he mentioned Ken Roczen wants to race the USGP and the MXoN. What is your opinion on that?

Johnson: Oh man. I hope he doesn’t make the same mistake I made. I reached out to Kenny, because I have experience career ending injuries. I made some big mistakes in my career and one of them was coming back too soon from injury. You need to go through a routine before you are allowed to race after injury. As soon as I could grab a handlebar I wanted to race. When you come up short and mis-time a whoop, you can damage everything again. I think it’s a mistake. He needs to not be in a rush and get himself healthy.

MXLarge: What moments in your career stood out?

Johnson: For me winning the first championship, even though Mark Barnett wasn’t there, he was injured, but in my rookie year I won the last race in Carlsbad and got the title, then also winning my 1984 250 National championship with my mechanic (Brian Lunniss), because he was the first guy who believed in me. We came down to the last moto and I pulled it off. Also, my win at Unadilla at the Motocross of Nations, because we were behind the eight ball. I remember sitting watching the start of the 125cc/500cc race (in pouring rain) and I remember seeing Jeff Wards goggles get blown off in the first turn and he was back struggling in seventh place and Bob Hannah was stuck in the screw you (a section of the track) for like a bunch of laps. I looked over at the team and said, I need to win both races if we have a shot here. That feeling, even when I talk about it, I want to throw up. It was a feeling of what men are made of, and this is when you are scared, you go and fight. You know what, the Europeans were known as mud racers, and I was from California, where it doesn’t rain, and I beat them and we won the MXoN. Saw Jimmy Weinert (AMA legend) crying and Tony Distefano (another AMA legend) was there, and all these people, and the only one who was a dick was Bob Hannah (laughing). That was the one I will take to the grave with me.

MXlarge: Was 1987 your best year? You won two motocross championships that year, and the MXoN.

Johnson: I think 1988 I was a better all-round rider I was in better shape. We won the 500 Outdoors and the supercross title and we were leading the 250 championship and my bike blew up. I was emotionally and mentally very strong in 1988.

MXlarge: Will we see you at the des Nations this year?

Johnson: I want to go, I mean what the hell, it’s been 30 years since I won that one (1987 in the mud at Unadilla). I want to ride the train, you know what I am saying. I don’t want to wait until its 40 years, I might not be around then.
Great and right on point RJ.
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8/12/2017 2:38am
I read an interview with RJ a few years ago where he said Carmichael is not the GOAT in his opinion. He rode the bikes too hard and would have broke them in other eras, so he was the best of his era, but not all time. Then they asked who was the GOAT in his opinion and he answered James Stewart?? I like that RJ speaks his mind, but it's hard to take anything he says serious after that, the guy just talks out his ass.
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8/12/2017 6:18am Edited Date/Time 8/12/2017 6:19am
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Straight up answers,maybe Eli don't want any of Cairoli and Herlings,shame in a way because Matterly Basin is way more of US style that that most...
Straight up answers,maybe Eli don't want any of Cairoli and Herlings,shame in a way because Matterly Basin is way more of US style that that most in Europe

What's the average retirement age of an Elk hunter these days? Blink
YamahaJT1 wrote:
Ahhhhhh... Heading home are ya? Lay off the booze.
Dude,it's Sarcastic banter,at the end of the day ELi isn't there,it sucks pretty much all round but that's the way it is.
There's obviously more to this than virtually everyone on this board knows to be fair,and even though i couldn't personally bring myself to go shooting such creatures,no hate on the guy,all the best to him
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8/12/2017 6:30am Edited Date/Time 8/12/2017 6:32am
I read an interview with RJ a few years ago where he said Carmichael is not the GOAT in his opinion. He rode the bikes too...
I read an interview with RJ a few years ago where he said Carmichael is not the GOAT in his opinion. He rode the bikes too hard and would have broke them in other eras, so he was the best of his era, but not all time. Then they asked who was the GOAT in his opinion and he answered James Stewart?? I like that RJ speaks his mind, but it's hard to take anything he says serious after that, the guy just talks out his ass.
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doofy wrote:
The difference is if he goes and breaks his leg, all of those who sat back and called Eli a fool or coward or this or...
The difference is if he goes and breaks his leg, all of those who sat back and called Eli a fool or coward or this or that go on living their lives and say well that sucks for him, but Eli watches his first potential SX title and millions of dollars go down the drain.

Yes we all work jobs that are at sometimes demanding, but does anyone do work even in the same ballpark as dangerous as moto?


If the guy who landed on Anderson had landed a few more inches one way or another, it could have been a very different situation. Possibly career ending/life altering
All valid points - so why race the USGP?

Exactly.
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Nice one Ted722. haha.
Evidence is a bitch.

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