Did Tomac have bike issues?

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Mit12 4/29/2017 10:18pm
4/29/2017 10:18pm
oilman400 wrote:
He sure didn't look anything like himself. Anyone have any insight? Maybe a shock or brake problem?
Its called having the points lead for the first time in your 450 SX career. Tomac won 9 races when he was behind or equal in points when he has sole possession of the red plate he has his second worst race of the season?
Real Mr. K.I.A. 4/29/2017 10:29pm
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Juliana appeared to have her stock tits back.

Not that that is a bad thing. Anyone have a screen shot of the main?

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machine 4/29/2017 10:59pm
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To me it looked like Tomac was over riding the track and that was causing him to over jump sections, which threw his rhythm off in the following sections. You couldn't over ride that track, it would bite you.
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Plugga 4/29/2017 11:40pm
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..did Brian Meeker's sand shoes blow out as many believe? or did he just fuck up?

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lostboy819 4/30/2017 12:34am
4/30/2017 12:34am Edited Date/Time 4/30/2017 12:35am
Mit12 wrote:
Its called having the points lead for the first time in your 450 SX career. Tomac won 9 races when he was behind or equal in...
Its called having the points lead for the first time in your 450 SX career. Tomac won 9 races when he was behind or equal in points when he has sole possession of the red plate he has his second worst race of the season?
I agree and sometimes its better to be behind ,and also Dungey is doing what he does best. Wink rock solid.
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USMCMXer 4/30/2017 12:46am
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Bottom line is that ET's chassis was not properly set up for the weight of that solo red plate. Between that and the mounting pressure of him possibly winning the title, he caved. I wish he would've made it to next week closer in points, but anything can still happen, it is racing and we have an wntire round before this is over. Anyone who thinks Dungey is just consistent and not fast, or if you somehow think that trait is negative, you are a bit off. Here's to a good race next week. Relax people and maybe think for just a second before typing ridiculous shit?!
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wfo4ever 4/30/2017 5:22am
4/30/2017 5:22am
BobPA wrote:
You realize they are TEAMmates right?
wfo4ever wrote:
So were Broc Glover and Bob Hannah. Ask Bob Hannah what he thought about it.
g0rd057 wrote:
Bob is one of those individuals who never much respected authority and obviously Bob's opinions didn't do anything to change future of motocross team policies. Did...
Bob is one of those individuals who never much respected authority and obviously Bob's opinions didn't do anything to change future of motocross team policies.
Did it?
I agree that Bob's opinion did not change anything as far as team policies in the future. There is still one more round and anything can happen. Good luck to Ryan Dungey and Eli Tomac in Vegas. I hope we all get to see some close and exciting racing for the SX Championship next weekend.
Andy_Greenney 4/30/2017 5:29am
4/30/2017 5:29am
Bike wasn't set up for the extra weight of that red plate, hence the front end tuck...true story
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LoudLove 4/30/2017 5:31am
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wfo4ever wrote:
So were Broc Glover and Bob Hannah. Ask Bob Hannah what he thought about it.
Hannah liked LaPorte, and could barely tolerate Glover. Team orders pulled the championship out of his friend's hands. Very different situation than Dungey and Musquin, from and relationship and points perspective.
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Rct851 4/30/2017 5:50am
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It's almost like he's too intense for his own good. If it obvious to all of us watching he didn't look comfortable he needs to know to keep it at 95% for this race and be alive in Vegas.

Either way I'm exciting to watch him gap everyone by 1 minute + outdoors
brian.perteete 4/30/2017 6:15am
4/30/2017 6:15am
Reverse altitude sickness?.....perhaps Eli was prepared to race @ only 1,800 ft elevation....



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Paw Paw 271 4/30/2017 6:24am
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From my view... The track was crap with no really long sections which effected every rider out there. No way to make up lost ground on a very short start and a very tight short course lay out. It did not allow for a fair race for any one.

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nealb129 4/30/2017 6:37am
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Rct851 wrote:
It's almost like he's too intense for his own good. If it obvious to all of us watching he didn't look comfortable he needs to know...
It's almost like he's too intense for his own good. If it obvious to all of us watching he didn't look comfortable he needs to know to keep it at 95% for this race and be alive in Vegas.

Either way I'm exciting to watch him gap everyone by 1 minute + outdoors
as long as he doesn't lawn dart himself again
JustPuttinAround 4/30/2017 6:46am
4/30/2017 6:46am
ctbale wrote:
He took forever to get going after the crash, almost like he was freezing up. I was waiting for him to pass out!!!!
That was really strange!
Frantic rushing? Nope. Sense of urgency? Nope. Any indication the Championship was slipping away? Nope.
Huh
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Craig742 4/30/2017 7:44am
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Eli changed something for that race and went totally the wrong way.
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yzmatt 4/30/2017 8:03am
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Paw Paw 271 wrote:
From my view... The track was crap with no really long sections which effected every rider out there. No way to make up lost ground on...
From my view... The track was crap with no really long sections which effected every rider out there. No way to make up lost ground on a very short start and a very tight short course lay out. It did not allow for a fair race for any one.

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So please enlighten us on how it wasn't fair? Did they let Dungey skip a section or did everyone race the same track as everyone else?

Is it the tracks fault that Tomac was totally out of control in his heat race and buried the front end in the main? Is it the tracks fault Tomac couldn't get past Grant who, for a time, was clearly slowing up for him?

Good grief, this place never ceases to amaze.
Tits Legendary 4/30/2017 8:09am
4/30/2017 8:09am
ferg722 wrote:
Top five were all steel frame bikes, curious to know if chassis had any role in tonight's race with track conditions
I thought that steel frame bikes were better for hardpack and worse for rutted tracks? That was one reason why "they" said Dungey would have an advantage at Vegas. More flex = better traction. Am I wrong?
Tits Legendary 4/30/2017 8:11am
4/30/2017 8:11am
kiwifan wrote:
I dont think so but lets blame the bike and possible injury instead of saying he just wasnt on his game tonight and got his backside...
I dont think so but lets blame the bike and possible injury instead of saying he just wasnt on his game tonight and got his backside smoked
Possible injury? This is the first I'm hearing of it. Care to enlighten me/us?

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n928tc 4/30/2017 8:24am
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GoldenState54 wrote:
Not having electric start most likely cost him the championship.
Agreed. That's what I said at the moment he got his bike upright.
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racin mason 4/30/2017 8:25am
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The track was the same for everybody,Weather or not it sucked is debatable.It was not the type of track one could ride balls out in the attack mode,It did not suit Eli's style all that well.Combine that and a heavy number plate, its understandable why Eli had a tough night .
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worcsracer808 4/30/2017 8:31am
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Dungey just breaks guys, He won't always win, but he pressures them till they break, Villopoto, Roczen, Tomac, all broke themselves to try to run in front of Dungey, Villopoto was the only one to figure out how to do it consistently, and it burned him out.
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akillerwombat 4/30/2017 8:59am
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When has Tomac ever been a technical track guy? Don't get me wrong, he can ride like no other in an environment that allows it that back end steering but he's never been a finesse type of guy.
jorgechavez 4/30/2017 9:05am
4/30/2017 9:05am
Tits Legendary wrote:
Possible injury? This is the first I'm hearing of it. Care to enlighten me/us?
Just a bit of speculation as to why there was no urgency or any sort of speed when Tomac tried to get up and get back going. It was like he tipped over on his Sunday trail ride.
Black Diesel Bomber 4/30/2017 11:36am
4/30/2017 11:36am
Here's why he couldn't pick the bike back up quickly. Didn't you hear the GOAT talk about how heavy those red plates are?



DrinkMoreWater 4/30/2017 12:13pm
4/30/2017 12:13pm
Tomac was probably feeling some pressure during the week come Practice and qualifying he wasnt feeling it that probably played on his mind and started doubting himself.

The pressure probably got to him all night he was probably panicking during the race stop breathing properly got stiff and got some arm pump, maybe thats why he took a while to get up he looked spent, when you dont ride with confidence you stop flowing and tense up.
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Beast Mode switch malfunction.
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just James 4/30/2017 1:58pm
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My wild guess is that he was sick.
As so many others have stated, he never looked like he had his act together the whole day.
When he went down in the main, he looked like I feel when I am sick, and I still have something that I have to get done. Still trying, but absolutely no drive or energy.
Andy_Greenney 4/30/2017 2:00pm
4/30/2017 2:00pm
Black Diesel Bomber wrote:
Here's why he couldn't pick the bike back up quickly. Didn't you hear the GOAT talk about how heavy those red plates are? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/04/30/191716/s1200_Screen_Shot_2017_04_30_at_11.35.24_AM.jpg[/img]
Here's why he couldn't pick the bike back up quickly. Didn't you hear the GOAT talk about how heavy those red plates are?



I think this picture perfectly sums up the situation we saw. You can see his set up is way off for the extra weight...
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Motoxdoc 4/30/2017 2:01pm
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mx617 wrote:
It did look like he was moving pretty slow, maybe he twisted something in the crash? Maybe he's sick?
He was moving just fine....until he wasn't! I don't believe he was sick last night.....but I believe he is this morning. It's called Dungyitis!
fullysicmate 4/30/2017 2:08pm
4/30/2017 2:08pm
PRM31 wrote:
I wonder how many points a season guys with E-start gain, on average? Starting to think the weight more than pays off.
Estart is an advantage, the bike that have it are still lighter though.

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