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I dont believe im part of the problem when the only $$ being spent that day would have been gas money to get there. Nothing would change if i went or not. The reason the race was canned was because they based their projected MXON attendance and earnings off of the lackluster USGP race that nobody was interested in the first place. Thats not my fault. Like i said if it was in the middle of the season i would have been 100x more interersted. And MX in the US isnt done, just races with nothing on the line arent going to get great attendance. And hell yeah, take my man card, the A/C and few episodes of TV were way more intriguing than being there. You guys can all bitch all you want but ive never seen someone judged so hard for giving a reason why they and many others didnt go to a race.
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How do you know i didnt?
i wouldnt pay to go to nationals and SX and travel to hangtown and other races, idk. But seeing how much you guys flip your shit on this is ridiculous. Seems the only competent people on this forum are ML GuyB and DV.
You aren't entitled to an MXDN just because X number of years has passed since you had the last one either, you aren't entitled to a damn thing.
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My view on the lesser GPs; Mexico/Thailand/Quatar give the series new international tracks and exposure in foreign markets. Assen is legendary for its other venues and has superb facilities and organization to make it work. USGPs would greatly help alleviate the series if there was enough interest. I guess he adds them after the Nationals calendar so that theres a good possibility of those riders chiming in, too bad it hasn't worked out that way.
Hold an MXdN at any US national track and it will be packed. Guaranteed.
Heck I've never been to any US national on the west coast, but myself and about 10 other buddies were planning to go to the Glen Helen MXdN since it was first announced. My point is an MXdN event has more pull than even a US National. Book one here and it will be packed. An MXGP race no one cares about is a horrible data point.
While the GP's are good racing with talented riders, its certainly no better than our national series. When there is nothing on the line, few if any or our guys that we are big fans of racing it, and so many other sports competing for our money..... its easy to understand with a little rational thought why so few show up or show interest in the GP race.
I skipped this years Hangtown event to ride with 500 folks in the dirt from the central valley to the coast and back over two days. I knew there would be plenty of other opportunities this year in my state to see my favorite guys race. No biggie.....
It doesnt take a rocket scientist to understand that the MXoN is different, and limited opportunity. I was planning on driving the 10 hrs south for a weekend to attend the MXoN next year. Bummed that it wont happen now. But to equate GP attendance with MXoN attendance is a little silly.
Would it be or ever be as well attended as an event in Europe? Probably not. But you have so many more country's fan pools so much closer for travel there. No one country "deserves" a race, but if Youthstream wants to keep interest in the event..... you might want to throw one of the single biggest MX markets a bone occasionally.
While I still believe the MXoN is such a different animal from the MXGP in regards to getting the fans there, I understand from a business perspective that Glen Helen was not willing to risk it. I do not know their books, but if this unknown was enough to cancel the MXoN, I believe their books are tighter than they would like and the risk to keeping the place open is there should not enough fans show up.
So they don't think they'll make more than $1.5 million that weekend? Last I read the AMA national crowd was over 35,000. 35,000 people at $75 ticket is $2.625 million. I guarantee the MXoN event would draw a bigger crowd than the national. People would fly in to see the prestigious event. You can't judge the attendance by and end of the season GP race where the titles were already wrapped up.
Absolute and utter bull shit.
I love the GP's and MXDN, I went to Charlotte this year and was impressed although there are many areas to improve.
I say let him have his MXGP and his MXDN and I do hope we don't participate next year (and that's hard for me to say).
For you that say it doesn't matter if the US is there or not...well lets see how the crowds are if we aren't there before you make that judgment....When all the best riders in the world aren't there it does take a lot away from the appeal...My emotions tell me to never give that fat bastard another penny...time will tell.
The good news is that MXDouche won't be able to troll US fans, riders and media if we stop going...
Maybe all the US riders will get "hurt or sick" before the SXMX deal...
And handing out "special special VIP" passes and other bullshit.
YS and Luongo are scum. The GP guys should have boycotted him years ago. They're fucked now.
Hopefully the American guys know their moto history when SX asks for 5 more races.
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The rise of MMA was due to the fact that the best always fought the best. With MX, we now see other interests and dollars (Luongo, Monster, etc) determining when the best face the best, taking precedent over the best wanting to race the best, simply to prove themselves.
I get it from the riders' perspective - why race for free and risk your paycheck....? But on the promoters' side - give something back for Christ's sake. the sport giveth and the sport taketh away...Let's hope some other sanctioning body comes along to taketh away from the money-grubbing, piece of shit Luongo.
So now, as with boxing, the fans are left with the decision to make and that is to shy away from the sport they love to attempt to force the hand of the promoters to make the best deal and be the best proverbial matchmaker they can be. For Luongo, this means pay the riders that come to do battle. Period.
"If you build it, they will come..."
GL bought the rights then sold them to Dorna (Moto GP promoter), Dorna fluffed it with the single moto format
GL then bought the rights back for pennies on the dollar at the end of 2003 I believe.
c'mon America where is your fighting patriotic spirit gone???
1. Glen Helen. Cancelled.
2. It's all Awoods' fault.
3. A couple of girls wore some mighty skimpy clothes in Colorado.
You guys leap to conclusions that USA won't race it if it isn't here next year.
Also, if not Glenn Helen; does anyone have any insight to where it really may be?
The Glen Helen track and surrounding area is not a nice place to visit. Hell even industry people like JT$ won't attend our own US National at that track and he lives in California. Why would anyone want to spend money going there? Keep the event off US soil. Nothing exotic about visiting Utica, Buchanon, Millville, etc.
This is a wise decision and in the best interest of the sport of motocross and the MXdN event.
I am proud as hell of our riders the last 2 years. I would rather see people who WANT to race over people who are talented and do it because it is expected any day.
We aren't seeing that though. Team USA used to be the absolute superstars that rode differently to everyone else, that rode with an ability and style we never usually got to see. The teams that have been sent the last couple of years don't stand out, yes they are still extremely comptitive, but they don't draw people to the event in the way that they did when it was Carmichael/Stewart etc.
This years MXdN was one of the best I can remember, and the world champion wasn't there, the US outdoor champ wasn't there, the US SX champ wasn't there, none of it mattered. When the event can still be as good as it was without those big names being there, do you really think it's going to crush the event to not have Webb, Anderson and Alex Martin there? What I saw when I was there was thousands of fans from all over the world, all cheering for the riders from their country, not giving a shit about the European riders vs the American riders. Those days are gone, 5 years without a win and all of a sudden they aren't quite as important as you think. If they come and race, great, if they don't, great, I won't miss them
It would surprise me none if the US didn't field a team for a few years. If that occurs, I won't be up at 4 AM to watch the French battle the Germans like I did this last weekend.
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