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Dungey is a super nice and super hard working guy who wants to do the best he can at his job.
And for several years he did just that..... but he was so nice that he would not push others around and he was so modest that he would come up behind a rider like RV and then just be polite and stay where he was.
NOW comes the turning point: The turning point is called Roger DeCoster !
Roger would talk to Ryan and tell him that he needed to be more aggressive on the track and Ryan just never could comprehend it because he was by nature modest and reserved etc.
BUT: guess what....... DeCoster was also like Ryan.....
and somewhere along the way DeCoster figured out he needed to advance to the next step if he wanted to achieve the potential that was in his heart..... and as we all know Roger indeed achieved (10 fold) all of the potential he had.....
Now back to the USA....... Roger simply was able to break through to Ryan and Ryan finally understood that pushing to the front and to the max of his potential was ok, it was not impolite -----
in other words, I think Roger got the job done !!!!!
but that is just my thought ---- we still do not have the interview from Ryan or Roger stating this.......
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450 SX wins
Dungey 24
Roczen 4
Tomac 3
450 National wins
Dungey 38
Roczen 6
Tomac 3
Lap times are nice, but the record book doesn't record fast laps.
And yeah I know Dungey has been in the 450 class 4 years longer. But scoreboard. Average of 10 wins per year for Dungey to
Kenny's 5, and Eli's 3.
compairing roczens and tomacs amount of wins to dungeys at this point is just unfair.
To me it looks like he could pick up the pace at anytime if he had to. Dude is on rails and looking good while doing it.
Roczen had won 10 races in 2 years of 450. And Tomac has won 6 races in 2 years.
Roczen beat Dungey in 2014 outdoors straight up. But not by much. If Indiana wasn't a Mudder we might have had an epic race in Utah. Kenny is clutch when everything is on the line, similar to how Emig beat McGrath in the clutch in 96 Outdoors and 97 Dallas Supercross. In 95% of their races MC would beat Emig, but Emig rose to the occasion.
Tomac gets sooooooo much glory for two and a half races last year. At Hangtown Moto 1 Dungey was on him the whole first Moto eating roost, made a mistake with 2 to go and cruised the last lap. Moto 2 Tomac got out front Dungey made it to second several laps into the race and Tomac had a massive gap already. Dungey charged a couple laps and didn't make a dent into the gap and backed it down to take a second at the first race of the year.
At Glen Helen Dungey was leading when his bike stalled on him several times. I'm not saying he would have beat Tomac, I'm just saying mechanicals happen and they affected that race.
5 Motos can make you a legend, but it doesn't win you a championship.
and roczen winning the title over dungey is not a shoulda coulda woulda. he beat him, period.
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To me, he's much more aggressive now than in the past. I also think he's caught another gear in fitness and confidence.
Dungey raced the des nations 6 straight years leading the team to the win 3 of 6 times (as was pointed out in this thread), and you guys seem to be upset with the way he races the des nations?? UK, are you suggesting that he didn't give it his all? Since when has Dungey not ever given it his all? What a laugher if so. I believe he is tied for most appearances at a des nations for team USA.
Not going to the des nations this past year was the best decision by far, for him at this time in his career. He came back to SX rested and prepared and full of piss and vinegar. He is the best he has ever been and will be tough to beat over a series. And don't think he isn't haunted by getting yarded at the beginning of mx last summer. It would be the case this summer, imho. He is a machine right now, bottom line.
To everyone that says he just runs the pace he thinks is safe and could go faster if he wanted, I think the RV years cast doubt on that. He never could match RV's speed. RV could nail the starts, stay on two wheels and was just faster. Dungey knew it and it caused him major frustration. Now maybe dungey is faster now or more aggressive but until Kenny, Eli, Jason and trey start getting starts regularly we just won't know.
So RV could nail the start and not have to pass anyone and you consider him the fastest.
But if Dungey nails the start and beats everyone he still didn't prove he was the fastest? He won both championships last year, but he still has to prove he is the cream of the crop right now.
How about A1 when Trey put RD on the ground, he got going and Kenny was right on him at the mid point. RD moved forward, passed Tomac and was reeling Anderson in while KR finished 5th?
Seems like no matter how much the dude wins, everyone has the throw an asterisk by his accomplishments.
Would be interesting to see how he performs on the KTM 450 from just a couple years ago.
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