Roczen's Dad on RCH

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#991 8/19/2015 9:10pm
8/19/2015 9:10pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2015 9:13pm
DonM wrote:
JasonWeigandt: Meanwhile on the motocross side….yeah, just talked to Ken Roczen on the phone. Care to guess about what? JasonWeigandt: Here's a hint: He's NOT leaving...
JasonWeigandt: Meanwhile on the motocross side….yeah, just talked to Ken Roczen on the phone. Care to guess about what?

JasonWeigandt: Here's a hint: He's NOT leaving RCH. Everything is okay. He's adamant dad doesn't speak for him
Should be an awesome work environment with a top atmosphere Laughing .

If he wants to ride a Zook, there aren't too many options open for him ATM. That Elephant in the room is gonna be hard to Ignore though.

"Everything is OK". Yeah, sure it is LOL.
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DonM wrote:
JasonWeigandt: Meanwhile on the motocross side….yeah, just talked to Ken Roczen on the phone. Care to guess about what? JasonWeigandt: Here's a hint: He's NOT leaving...
JasonWeigandt: Meanwhile on the motocross side….yeah, just talked to Ken Roczen on the phone. Care to guess about what?

JasonWeigandt: Here's a hint: He's NOT leaving RCH. Everything is okay. He's adamant dad doesn't speak for him
Thanks jasonW. Everyone shows over go back to sleep/work...
crusty_xx 8/19/2015 9:11pm
8/19/2015 9:11pm
Heiko had absolutely nothing and turned his son into the youngest world champion of all time, winning GPs at the age of 15.

He knows a thing or two about the sport and if some of you know-it-alls had ever met him and spoken to him in person, you would know that he's not just full of shit and looking for excuses for his son underperforming

He brought the suspension guy who worked for him during his 85cc days and you don't do that if you don't have a serious reason I'm guessing.

Hope they can get everything figured out. Nothing against dungey (he deserves every bit of his success) but I personally dislike seeing a KTM win

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#991 8/19/2015 9:15pm
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DonM wrote:
JasonWeigandt: Meanwhile on the motocross side….yeah, just talked to Ken Roczen on the phone. Care to guess about what? JasonWeigandt: Here's a hint: He's NOT leaving...
JasonWeigandt: Meanwhile on the motocross side….yeah, just talked to Ken Roczen on the phone. Care to guess about what?

JasonWeigandt: Here's a hint: He's NOT leaving RCH. Everything is okay. He's adamant dad doesn't speak for him
Jrewing wrote:
Thanks jasonW. Everyone shows over go back to sleep/work...
Yeah, clearly nothing to see here. "Everything is okay" Laughing .

I'm calling BS!

Can't blame the bloke for being gutted he didn't get to break the story I suppose.

"Everything's okay". That's funnier than the "Caitlyn Jenna tits" comment. As usual, I'd rather hear what Langston's got to say.

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DonM wrote:
JasonWeigandt: Meanwhile on the motocross side….yeah, just talked to Ken Roczen on the phone. Care to guess about what? JasonWeigandt: Here's a hint: He's NOT leaving...
JasonWeigandt: Meanwhile on the motocross side….yeah, just talked to Ken Roczen on the phone. Care to guess about what?

JasonWeigandt: Here's a hint: He's NOT leaving RCH. Everything is okay. He's adamant dad doesn't speak for him
Jrewing wrote:
Thanks jasonW. Everyone shows over go back to sleep/work...
#991 wrote:
Yeah, clearly nothing to see here. "Everything is okay" :laugh: . I'm calling BS! Can't blame the bloke for being gutted he didn't get to break...
Yeah, clearly nothing to see here. "Everything is okay" Laughing .

I'm calling BS!

Can't blame the bloke for being gutted he didn't get to break the story I suppose.

"Everything's okay". That's funnier than the "Caitlyn Jenna tits" comment. As usual, I'd rather hear what Langston's got to say.
Where there's smoke, there's more than likely fire.
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Bob693 wrote:
But his dad said the team is incompetent and unable to set up the bike, yet Tickle has seemed to get his set up.
Tickle's bike is set up so well, he's capable of running nearly 2 seconds per lap slower than Roczen!
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logan_140 8/19/2015 9:22pm
8/19/2015 9:22pm
Hmmm that photo roczen posted of him whipping his fork guards have no graphics on them neither does his front fender... Probably the stock bike..
woody woodpecker 8/19/2015 9:22pm
8/19/2015 9:22pm
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WoW 10 pages. :woohoo: It's all very simple and a huge mistake(s) by K-roc three times. 1) He left a team that helped him win a...
WoW 10 pages. Woohoo

It's all very simple and a huge mistake(s) by K-roc three times.

1) He left a team that helped him win a Championship and he rewarded them by bashing the bike later on. Very unprofessional imo.

2) He left Aldon thinking Pops could fill his shoes.

3) He left DeCoster, the Man who knows more about motocross and experienced it more than anyone in the World.

I liked Ken before he did all this. Now I chuckle everytime Dungey schools him. Grinning
So you don't like him anymore because he made decisions he felt would help improve himself? Of course it's easy for you to say otherwise when you compare his last two seasons, but Roczen doesn't need Aldon, KTM or Roger to win. He just needs to be healthy and on a comfortable set-up, then I'll be chuckling when he proves why he beat Dungey last year Smile
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olds cool 8/19/2015 9:32pm
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DonM wrote:
Exactly! Probably the dumbest thing I've seen a moto dad do...Wherever Kenny ends up(or stays) daddyo surely won't be there...
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Yeah, just look at the type of person KR is. Look at his "achievements". Pffffft. His old man obviously never had a clue what's best for...
Yeah, just look at the type of person KR is. Look at his "achievements". Pffffft. His old man obviously never had a clue what's best for his son.

Very unlike a German to say what's on his mind and call a spade a spade.
DonM wrote:
Please show me one over involved moto dad that was good for his sons career long term....
Don Jones and George Ellis. What do I win? Silly

Just wanted to be part of this awesome shitstorm! Wink
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JM485 wrote:
Since this thread is quickly becoming famous, I just wanted to jump in. Nothing to add, nothing to speculate, nothing to argue about, I just legitamently...
Since this thread is quickly becoming famous, I just wanted to jump in. Nothing to add, nothing to speculate, nothing to argue about, I just legitamently wanted to be a part of this epic collection of wild speculation, rampant exaggeration, and unfounded slander that lacks anything even remotely resembling a rational thought. Carry on gentlemen, carry on. . .
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JM....I'm pretending sitting on a nice deck , over looking the lawn , in two cozy chairs , drinking some cold beers right next to you...
JM....I'm pretending sitting on a nice deck , over looking the lawn , in two cozy chairs , drinking some cold beers right next to you , as were watching WW3 unfold. Haha , this thread is great!

I'll bring the popcorn fellas.....



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DonM wrote:
JasonWeigandt: Meanwhile on the motocross side….yeah, just talked to Ken Roczen on the phone. Care to guess about what? JasonWeigandt: Here's a hint: He's NOT leaving...
JasonWeigandt: Meanwhile on the motocross side….yeah, just talked to Ken Roczen on the phone. Care to guess about what?

JasonWeigandt: Here's a hint: He's NOT leaving RCH. Everything is okay. He's adamant dad doesn't speak for him

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JM485 8/19/2015 9:37pm
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JM485 wrote:
Since this thread is quickly becoming famous, I just wanted to jump in. Nothing to add, nothing to speculate, nothing to argue about, I just legitamently...
Since this thread is quickly becoming famous, I just wanted to jump in. Nothing to add, nothing to speculate, nothing to argue about, I just legitamently wanted to be a part of this epic collection of wild speculation, rampant exaggeration, and unfounded slander that lacks anything even remotely resembling a rational thought. Carry on gentlemen, carry on. . .
jeffro503 wrote:
JM....I'm pretending sitting on a nice deck , over looking the lawn , in two cozy chairs , drinking some cold beers right next to you...
JM....I'm pretending sitting on a nice deck , over looking the lawn , in two cozy chairs , drinking some cold beers right next to you , as were watching WW3 unfold. Haha , this thread is great!

I wish Ken could join us, I feel bad for him having to take the heat through all of this. Shoot he and I are the same age and I can't imagine having to deal with all of the crap that is inevitably going to come his way from this, it really isn't fair to him and you know he isn't going to have a second to even gather his thoughts as people attack him with questions from all angles. I wish him luck regardless of what happens.

Edit: BVM just saw your post, you're in too! Haha
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h&m_cycle 8/19/2015 9:42pm
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crusty_xx wrote:
Heiko had absolutely nothing and turned his son into the youngest world champion of all time, winning GPs at the age of 15. He knows a...
Heiko had absolutely nothing and turned his son into the youngest world champion of all time, winning GPs at the age of 15.

He knows a thing or two about the sport and if some of you know-it-alls had ever met him and spoken to him in person, you would know that he's not just full of shit and looking for excuses for his son underperforming

He brought the suspension guy who worked for him during his 85cc days and you don't do that if you don't have a serious reason I'm guessing.

Hope they can get everything figured out. Nothing against dungey (he deserves every bit of his success) but I personally dislike seeing a KTM win

Yes, if it's true, what about RC telling the suspension guy, "What did you do? Come over hear on your vacation?"
Doesn't sound like RC wants the guy touching the bike If true...
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karsmakers 8/19/2015 9:42pm
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I think there is a 50% chance that :
Kenny's dad is right
Kenny's dad is exagerating and full of shit

Kenny is making up excuses
Kenny's bike is a tub of shit

RC's priority is the donut shop
RC thinks Kenny is a whiner... and wonders why he keeps calling him with
suspension questions when it's snack time?

That half of us are full of shit!
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51xc 8/19/2015 9:44pm
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i get heikos point and i think there is alot truth to what he says but man just zip it. it won't make things easier that way, that's for sure.

bottom line is that kenny is a brand that heiko built and seeing that brand loose his reputation due to factors he can't control hurts his ego.
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That's it I'm buying spring forks dammit!! Woohoo Woohoo Laughing Tongue Cool Dizzy
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#991 8/19/2015 9:47pm
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51xc wrote:
i get heikos point and i think there is alot truth to what he says but man just zip it. it won't make things easier that...
i get heikos point and i think there is alot truth to what he says but man just zip it. it won't make things easier that way, that's for sure.

bottom line is that kenny is a brand that heiko built and seeing that brand loose his reputation due to factors he can't control hurts his ego.
That, or seeing his son unhappy hurts his feelings. What parent would be happy?

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karsmakers 8/19/2015 9:48pm
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51xc wrote:
i get heikos point and i think there is alot truth to what he says but man just zip it. it won't make things easier that...
i get heikos point and i think there is alot truth to what he says but man just zip it. it won't make things easier that way, that's for sure.

bottom line is that kenny is a brand that heiko built and seeing that brand loose his reputation due to factors he can't control hurts his ego.
Maybe Heiko needs to take a hike.....or stick a bratwurst in his pie hole at the very least?
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karsmakers 8/19/2015 10:01pm
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Kenny said his Jimmy Johns Suzuki is hard in the front and soft in the back.....kinda like Caitlyn Jenner Wink
woody woodpecker 8/19/2015 10:03pm
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51xc wrote:
i get heikos point and i think there is alot truth to what he says but man just zip it. it won't make things easier that...
i get heikos point and i think there is alot truth to what he says but man just zip it. it won't make things easier that way, that's for sure.

bottom line is that kenny is a brand that heiko built and seeing that brand loose his reputation due to factors he can't control hurts his ego.
I agree that it's not going to help Ken, but I think his Dad said this stuff mainly with the intention of informing Ken's German fans of the truth about his struggles this year. Lots of people who grew up watching Kenny were probably looking for an explanation for his performances, and rather than his ego I think it just must be frustrating for him to see his son not riding to his potential.
overthebars39 8/19/2015 10:06pm
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Thanks for the translation. Interesting read!

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BobPA wrote:
I am calling bullshit on 3 seconds a lap faster on a bone stock bike..
Wasn't a bone stock bike. A well known German suspension guy who Roczen is familiar with took the stock suspension and worked it. The bike had all the usual bolt on stuff such as a pipe etc etc. Ken was more comfortable on it than on his " factory suspension" By no means was the bike bone stock!
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Reggsie 8/19/2015 10:09pm
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karsmakers wrote:
Kenny said his Jimmy Johns Suzuki is hard in the front and soft in the back.....kinda like Caitlyn Jenner Wink
Okay, we get it, Caitlyn Jenner is a walking punchline, any chance we could move on?
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11 pages in 7 hours... nice....
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#991 wrote:
Yeah, just look at the type of person KR is. Look at his "achievements". Pffffft. His old man obviously never had a clue what's best for...
Yeah, just look at the type of person KR is. Look at his "achievements". Pffffft. His old man obviously never had a clue what's best for his son.

Very unlike a German to say what's on his mind and call a spade a spade.
DonM wrote:
Please show me one over involved moto dad that was good for his sons career long term....
MANNERS226 wrote:
Dungey's Dad.
The problem is in the original question, rhetorical or not. It's just begs the issue of over involved, and I don't think it's as clear as saying whether it goes well or not. The issue isn't whether the dad is involved, but whether he's controlling
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RedDirtDog 8/19/2015 10:22pm
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oo shiet, shots fired
str8shooter 8/19/2015 10:24pm
8/19/2015 10:24pm
WOW...More drama than a James Stewert thread!Laughing

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If everything Kennys dad said is even close to true....Im guessing Kenny may have told his dad to go ahead and say what he said to the mag article hoping to get some results from the "incompetent crew".
IMO Kenny hasnt looked happy all season.....I think only Kenny knows the whole truth here,

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