2021 Suzuki RMZ 450 and 250 1st Look

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https://enduro21.com/en/bikes/latest/first-look-2021-suzuki-rm-z-range

What's new for 2021? Well, we were expecting them to be equipped with electric starters but sadly, this is not the case. In fact, there are no major changes for 2021 besides revised graphics.
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Teejay 11/28/2020 8:54am
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Suzuki’s m.o has always been BNG, why change now. Still great bikes and an absolute bargain.
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skeef 11/28/2020 11:24am
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They have a power tuner app now similar to Yamaha, new for 21'. It's a step in the right direction. Still a great bike at an unbeatable price.

I don't think "we" were expecting an electric start for 21', more or less hoping.
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inthebadboycorner 11/28/2020 12:18pm
11/28/2020 12:18pm
skeef wrote:
They have a power tuner app now similar to Yamaha, new for 21'. It's a step in the right direction. Still a great bike at an...
They have a power tuner app now similar to Yamaha, new for 21'. It's a step in the right direction. Still a great bike at an unbeatable price.

I don't think "we" were expecting an electric start for 21', more or less hoping.
Maybe they should lower the price each year by 5%.
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yz133rider 11/28/2020 12:21pm
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skeef wrote:
They have a power tuner app now similar to Yamaha, new for 21'. It's a step in the right direction. Still a great bike at an...
They have a power tuner app now similar to Yamaha, new for 21'. It's a step in the right direction. Still a great bike at an unbeatable price.

I don't think "we" were expecting an electric start for 21', more or less hoping.
inthebadboycorner wrote:
Maybe they should lower the price each year by 5%.
Yamaha should do the same with their 2005 yz125 and 250s.
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49weasel 11/28/2020 12:33pm
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yz133rider wrote:
Yamaha should do the same with their 2005 yz125 and 250s.
2006.
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skeef wrote:
They have a power tuner app now similar to Yamaha, new for 21'. It's a step in the right direction. Still a great bike at an...
They have a power tuner app now similar to Yamaha, new for 21'. It's a step in the right direction. Still a great bike at an unbeatable price.

I don't think "we" were expecting an electric start for 21', more or less hoping.
inthebadboycorner wrote:
Maybe they should lower the price each year by 5%.
yz133rider wrote:
Yamaha should do the same with their 2005 yz125 and 250s.
They have updated swingarms, but it would be ‘06 actually, when they received the latest SSS technology, which is still class leading btw.
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user760a 11/28/2020 3:42pm
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Suzuki could do fine with the constantly recycled RMZ models, But they need to undercut the competition's price significantly. Everyone knows they are pretty good bikes, and people will
buy them if they have an angle. When selling the same old, your angle needs to be low price!
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thatswhathappens 11/28/2020 3:48pm
11/28/2020 3:48pm
Man, those shroud graphics are terrible. If all you're going to change is the graphics, at least make them better, lol
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cool_hand 11/28/2020 4:04pm
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They are a great Manufacturer, they are buying time until Yamaha and the rest quit spending money, I would buy one in a heartbeat, kick start don't bother me, especially with EFI
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mxracer666 11/28/2020 4:52pm
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user760a wrote:
Suzuki could do fine with the constantly recycled RMZ models, But they need to undercut the competition's price significantly. Everyone knows they are pretty good bikes...
Suzuki could do fine with the constantly recycled RMZ models, But they need to undercut the competition's price significantly. Everyone knows they are pretty good bikes, and people will
buy them if they have an angle. When selling the same old, your angle needs to be low price!
This, exactly !
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shortcourse 11/28/2020 5:05pm
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thatswhathappens wrote:
Man, those shroud graphics are terrible. If all you're going to change is the graphics, at least make them better, lol

How many people run stock graphics these days...Not too many, so why does it matter so much? Oh...I guess there has to be something to bitch about huh...

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thatswhathappens 11/28/2020 6:29pm
11/28/2020 6:29pm
thatswhathappens wrote:
Man, those shroud graphics are terrible. If all you're going to change is the graphics, at least make them better, lol
shortcourse wrote:
How many people run stock graphics these days...Not too many, so why does it matter so much? Oh...I guess there has to be something to bitch...

How many people run stock graphics these days...Not too many, so why does it matter so much? Oh...I guess there has to be something to bitch about huh...

I'm a dude who rides for fun whenever I have a free weekend, and I run a 2018 YZ with stock graphics, just added numbers. Never thought to switch up the stock YZ graphics since they look good as-is.

You call it bitching, I call it giving my opinion on the only thing they've changed on the bike this year. Had they added E-start, I'd probably have something good to say about it, and you wouldn't have to bitch about me bitching.
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wrc777 11/28/2020 6:57pm
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If they were going to wait 4-6 months longer than everyone else to ship 2021 bikes they should have been new. I would like to know the explanation for the huge delay getting unchanged product to dealers who have been sold out for months. It is a pretty big screw up. Instead of being about the only bike on the sales floor they will be sitting there next to just updated bikes from all their competitors.
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Kyle978 11/28/2020 10:00pm
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wrc777 wrote:
If they were going to wait 4-6 months longer than everyone else to ship 2021 bikes they should have been new. I would like to know...
If they were going to wait 4-6 months longer than everyone else to ship 2021 bikes they should have been new. I would like to know the explanation for the huge delay getting unchanged product to dealers who have been sold out for months. It is a pretty big screw up. Instead of being about the only bike on the sales floor they will be sitting there next to just updated bikes from all their competitors.
Imagine if there was a really legitimate reason considering the current times? That would be crazy.
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wrc777 11/28/2020 10:20pm
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wrc777 wrote:
If they were going to wait 4-6 months longer than everyone else to ship 2021 bikes they should have been new. I would like to know...
If they were going to wait 4-6 months longer than everyone else to ship 2021 bikes they should have been new. I would like to know the explanation for the huge delay getting unchanged product to dealers who have been sold out for months. It is a pretty big screw up. Instead of being about the only bike on the sales floor they will be sitting there next to just updated bikes from all their competitors.
Kyle978 wrote:
Imagine if there was a really legitimate reason considering the current times? That would be crazy.
A reason that didn’t have the same effect on the other 3 manufacturers in the same country?
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tobz 11/28/2020 11:30pm
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Sad to see.
It’s a slow and painful retreat from the market.
Who was on here telling us that Suzuki isn’t in strife with the moto industry and that were all idiots thinking otherwise?
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Chevy, Ford and so on are making same heavy bulky trucks from 1980 with different front grill every year since and its coolest thing for american people but Suzuki doing same is not. Those old school kick start heavy Suzukis should sell in USA like no others..
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tek14 wrote:
Chevy, Ford and so on are making same heavy bulky trucks from 1980 with different front grill every year since and its coolest thing for american...
Chevy, Ford and so on are making same heavy bulky trucks from 1980 with different front grill every year since and its coolest thing for american people but Suzuki doing same is not. Those old school kick start heavy Suzukis should sell in USA like no others..
Uh, no. Dumbest thing I’ve read in a while. I’m not sure if you were in an 80’s pickup or lifted a hood on one? Doubtful you could even find the hood release on a power wheels. Not even close
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Talisker 11/29/2020 2:43am
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There's a couple Suzuki threads at the moment. They all should be 10 pagers. Im a professional practice rider. Any bike is fine to me as I'm the same speed on all of them. Im a product of the late 80's and 90's. Any bike today is far superior and reliable to anything i grew up on. If any brand is holding you back you should not be wasting your time on this forum. We should all be watching you on Saturday Night.
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linehauler47 11/29/2020 7:22am
11/29/2020 7:22am
I think Suzuki pretty much knows what they are doing. They have been in business and have been making moto cross bikes for years. While many of you have great intentions with your suggestions I think they will be just fine. They actually are great for the biggest segment of dirt bike riders. Those that will never ever be in competition. It’s a cheaper offering that does that job just fine.
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wrc777 wrote:
If they were going to wait 4-6 months longer than everyone else to ship 2021 bikes they should have been new. I would like to know...
If they were going to wait 4-6 months longer than everyone else to ship 2021 bikes they should have been new. I would like to know the explanation for the huge delay getting unchanged product to dealers who have been sold out for months. It is a pretty big screw up. Instead of being about the only bike on the sales floor they will be sitting there next to just updated bikes from all their competitors.
Kyle978 wrote:
Imagine if there was a really legitimate reason considering the current times? That would be crazy.
wrc777 wrote:
A reason that didn’t have the same effect on the other 3 manufacturers in the same country?
You mean like Honda not being able to make enough 21’s so they made another full run of 20’s to try to make up for it?

Nope, didn’t have an effect on any of the other manufacturers at all.
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tek14 wrote:
Chevy, Ford and so on are making same heavy bulky trucks from 1980 with different front grill every year since and its coolest thing for american...
Chevy, Ford and so on are making same heavy bulky trucks from 1980 with different front grill every year since and its coolest thing for american people but Suzuki doing same is not. Those old school kick start heavy Suzukis should sell in USA like no others..
Way off the mark.
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Dirty Points 11/29/2020 10:07am
11/29/2020 10:07am
wrc777 wrote:
If they were going to wait 4-6 months longer than everyone else to ship 2021 bikes they should have been new. I would like to know...
If they were going to wait 4-6 months longer than everyone else to ship 2021 bikes they should have been new. I would like to know the explanation for the huge delay getting unchanged product to dealers who have been sold out for months. It is a pretty big screw up. Instead of being about the only bike on the sales floor they will be sitting there next to just updated bikes from all their competitors.
Kyle978 wrote:
Imagine if there was a really legitimate reason considering the current times? That would be crazy.
Isn't Suzuki in the middle of transition to an all-new factory?
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Dirty Points 11/29/2020 10:09am
11/29/2020 10:09am
tek14 wrote:
Chevy, Ford and so on are making same heavy bulky trucks from 1980 with different front grill every year since and its coolest thing for american...
Chevy, Ford and so on are making same heavy bulky trucks from 1980 with different front grill every year since and its coolest thing for american people but Suzuki doing same is not. Those old school kick start heavy Suzukis should sell in USA like no others..
Broseph wrote:
Way off the mark.
Yeah, this is a strange one. Pickups, being a huge and profitable market in the US, seem to lead those manufacturers with tech updates. Passenger cars get the backburner.
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MotofactioN 11/29/2020 10:12am
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I’m not gonna lie, the BNG do kind of suck lol. Looks like there is something missing Grinning

But I love my zook, and pass plenty of people on other OEMs, so it doesn’t hurt my feelings. Then they all come compliment how awesome it looks.

I can’t imagine getting so worked up and angry over something that doesn’t effect me and that I can’t control. Some of you guys need to get a grip. Suzuki doesn’t care what you think.

I’m sure they’ll have a new bike in a couple years, do you want them to apologize for not being like Honda and completely re doing the bike every 3 years? Dizzy

They just brought this bike to the market in 2018...it’s still 2020, let it have a 4 year run in my opinion. The people crying and complaining aren’t the people buying the bike anyways. They just are naturally unhappy people and want to complain about something. Pinch Whistling
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wrc777 11/29/2020 10:56am
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Kyle978 wrote:
Imagine if there was a really legitimate reason considering the current times? That would be crazy.
wrc777 wrote:
A reason that didn’t have the same effect on the other 3 manufacturers in the same country?
mattyhamz2 wrote:
You mean like Honda not being able to make enough 21’s so they made another full run of 20’s to try to make up for it...
You mean like Honda not being able to make enough 21’s so they made another full run of 20’s to try to make up for it?

Nope, didn’t have an effect on any of the other manufacturers at all.
Honda delivered two all new models and more of their existing bike. Suzuki did neither. Yamaha delivered all their old bikes and an updated 250f, ktm launched a new brand and delivered their current bikes, Kawasaki launched an all new 250, an updated 450, and off road versions of each. Suzuki didn’t even deliver their current models which are in their third and fourth years.
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Johnny Depp wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/28/462248/s1200_rm_z450m1_yu1_diagonal_1024x683.jpg[/img] https://enduro21.com/en/bikes/latest/first-look-2021-suzuki-rm-z-range What's new for 2021? Well, we were expecting them to be equipped with electric starters but sadly, this is not the case. In fact...


https://enduro21.com/en/bikes/latest/first-look-2021-suzuki-rm-z-range

What's new for 2021? Well, we were expecting them to be equipped with electric starters but sadly, this is not the case. In fact, there are no major changes for 2021 besides revised graphics.
The same bike Justin Bogle won a national on. Image that.
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