What the hell is going on?’

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Or those who don't have Facebook:Michael Lindsay says what he personally saw behind the Honda truck after Moto 1 makes him believe Jett Lawrence was genuinely...

Or those who don't have Facebook:


Michael Lindsay says what he personally saw behind the Honda truck after Moto 1 makes him believe Jett Lawrence was genuinely HURT at Ironman. 👀🦶

Lindsay said he went straight back to the Honda area specifically because he wanted to see what happened once Jett was away from the cameras and the fans.

According to Michael, Jett didn’t even really make it back to the main race truck.

He says Honda drove him as close as possible to their private PT area, Jett could barely get out of the mule, and his girlfriend, family and team were helping him get his gear off.

Then Lindsay says he watched Jett basically crawl out of sight into the private area in tears. 😳

His point was pretty simple:

There was nobody there to put on a show for.

Lindsay also said he had already noticed Jett’s right foot constantly getting blown off the peg, his balance looking wrong, and his body position being noticeably different throughout the opening laps.

So while everyone can have their own opinion about what happened in that championship finale, Michael’s firsthand takeaway was that whatever was going on with Jett’s ankle looked VERY real once the cameras weren’t around. 👀🔥

🎥 Eyewitness account: Michael Lindsay / Vital MX

3strokemx wrote:

How'd he get back on track for Moto 2?

Heavy taping and probably a numbing shot.

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mx317 wrote:

Heavy taping and probably a numbing shot.

Does the AMA allow shots during competition now?

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Does the AMA allow shots during competition now?

Gah. Some people. It's simple: the AMA is not a God, and they, like any other sports governing body, have no control over whether or not a PAID PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE decides to alleviate a painful injury by way of a (legal) shot or pill or ointment in order to continue to compete. 

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9/1/2026 6:30am Edited Date/Time 9/1/2026 6:33am
3strokemx wrote:

Does the AMA allow shots during competition now?

Silas444 wrote:
Gah. Some people. It's simple: the AMA is not a God, and they, like any other sports governing body, have no control over whether or not...

Gah. Some people. It's simple: the AMA is not a God, and they, like any other sports governing body, have no control over whether or not a PAID PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE decides to alleviate a painful injury by way of a (legal) shot or pill or ointment in order to continue to compete. 

I looked it up, injections are legal during competition as long as they are <100ml volume and do not contain any of the prohibited substances *unless a TUE is given.
 

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I looked it up, injections are legal during competition as long as they are <100ml volume and do not contain any of the prohibited substances *unless...

I looked it up, injections are legal during competition as long as they are <100ml volume and do not contain any of the prohibited substances *unless a TUE is given.
 

Give. It. Up. With each ankle-biting comment you make, you only look smaller and more petty. Enough already.

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It all comes down to leverage and upping their stock. Now Hunter has a major championship so now they can ask for more money when it comes back around for negotiations to resign. It’s simple. Sure Hunter wants championships but as a family to have two brothers running the gauntlet and winning the titles the more money they make.

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9/1/2026 6:58am Edited Date/Time 9/1/2026 7:14am
Silas444 wrote:

Give. It. Up. With each ankle-biting comment you make, you only look smaller and more petty. Enough already.

How is that ankle biting and petty? I shared the USADA rule and proved myself wrong.
 

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I wonder if HRC has a clause in their rider contracts that if a win or championship comes via "a gift/rigged/thrown by your brother"  -  would void or reduce the bonus being paid. If so, that could apply here..

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WTF knows. What's easier to believe,

Jett's ankle was screaming at him enough that he couldn't ride anywhere near his normal speed.

Jett decided he's kicked his brothers ass long enough, and wants to "help him out a little" and let him have a title too. Otherwise, he's going to make him feel bad by winning another one while big bro got close but no cigar one more time. Not after SX, poor dude, lets throw him a bone. I'll go after another title. I can start another streak. It's not fair the same guy always wins. Plus he can get some more $ from Honda.

Doesn't sound like any siblings I know, but ok. 😆😆     

 

:edited to avoid a lesson from Falcon 

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I’m not having a hard time believing Jett over-extended his ankle in his 1st Moto -without- his custom peg that was designed to prevent this from happening…

Then, again, I had surgery on my ankle last year and it’s easier for me to believe how difficult his recovery is. 🤣

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i love it when people post emotionally charged arguments while calling other people idiots. not saying you are one, or that you're wrong, but let people...

i love it when people post emotionally charged arguments while calling other people idiots. not saying you are one, or that you're wrong, but let people make their arguments just like you're making yours without calling them idiots. there's enough funny business for people to make a case that the opposite is at least plausible. we'll never know for sure. just let it ride.  it's like people that get bent out of shape if you tell them you're not convinced that AGW is calculable...

@Hammer 663s wouldn't you agree?

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I do not believe Jett threw the race on purpose and believe his ankle is a big problem but when I saw this, it is funny but i'm sure it will offend a bunch of you. 781360861 2570014546796430 971080159886423908 n 

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^^^ yeah if that didn't make you laugh I can't help you hahaha. 

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kiwifan wrote:
Or those who don't have Facebook:Michael Lindsay says what he personally saw behind the Honda truck after Moto 1 makes him believe Jett Lawrence was genuinely...

Or those who don't have Facebook:


Michael Lindsay says what he personally saw behind the Honda truck after Moto 1 makes him believe Jett Lawrence was genuinely HURT at Ironman. 👀🦶

Lindsay said he went straight back to the Honda area specifically because he wanted to see what happened once Jett was away from the cameras and the fans.

According to Michael, Jett didn’t even really make it back to the main race truck.

He says Honda drove him as close as possible to their private PT area, Jett could barely get out of the mule, and his girlfriend, family and team were helping him get his gear off.

Then Lindsay says he watched Jett basically crawl out of sight into the private area in tears. 😳

His point was pretty simple:

There was nobody there to put on a show for.

Lindsay also said he had already noticed Jett’s right foot constantly getting blown off the peg, his balance looking wrong, and his body position being noticeably different throughout the opening laps.

So while everyone can have their own opinion about what happened in that championship finale, Michael’s firsthand takeaway was that whatever was going on with Jett’s ankle looked VERY real once the cameras weren’t around. 👀🔥

🎥 Eyewitness account: Michael Lindsay / Vital MX

3strokemx wrote:

How'd he get back on track for Moto 2?

because he's a badass....and a champion. they don't quit....

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Anyone who does not see exactly what Jett did is blind or just refusing to except reality. You’re telling me Jett could not pass anyone, mid...

Anyone who does not see exactly what Jett did is blind or just refusing to except reality. You’re telling me Jett could not pass anyone, mid pack riders he normally passes by the dozen for 3 laps? Just look at who he “couldn’t” pass and his lap times through the entire race. Give me a dam break. He was waiting to see where Hunter was. It was planned from the go when he tanked the start. He dropped anchor immediately when he saw Hunter went down not knowing how bad it was. I have no feelings either way but I understand his especially after Hunters supercross heartbreak. Its highly unlikely Hunter would have ever got a title with a healthy Jett. He barely got one against an injured Jett. 

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You aren't very good at analyzing, are you?Deegs got 16th in first moto. He went to third from last a few weeks ago. Any lights coming...

You aren't very good at analyzing, are you?

Deegs got 16th in first moto. He went to third from last a few weeks ago. Any lights coming on?

most are dimwitted.....

 

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#waddabunchabaloney.You'll never know the truth only if you believe Jett is lying.  You also have to premise your doubt on accepting that Hunter would want a...

#waddabunchabaloney.

You'll never know the truth only if you believe Jett is lying.  

You also have to premise your doubt on accepting that Hunter would want a title gifted to him.

Here's an alternative: a guy who missed all of SX and has been impaired throughout this season got a bad start and has said he tweaked that injury and could not press hard mid pack on a sketchy rutted track.  He got a better start second moto and still could not push hard, at which point it may not have mattered given the positions available and the points he was down.   

I'll grant you this: he wasn't going to knock his brother down second moto to put those points back in his pocket given Pop's emphasis on straight up, and he may have been willing to take greater risks of compounding his injury if it was anyone other than Hunter he was fighting for the title.

The notion that Jett threw this really is an idiot test a lot of people are failing.

Tyler D wrote:
i love it when people post emotionally charged arguments while calling other people idiots. not saying you are one, or that you're wrong, but let people...

i love it when people post emotionally charged arguments while calling other people idiots. not saying you are one, or that you're wrong, but let people make their arguments just like you're making yours without calling them idiots. there's enough funny business for people to make a case that the opposite is at least plausible. we'll never know for sure. just let it ride.  it's like people that get bent out of shape if you tell them you're not convinced that AGW is calculable...

@Hammer 663s wouldn't you agree?

ando wrote:

But if their argument is idiotic, well...

"anybody who thinks this is an idiot because I've already made up my mind and I know everything" 

Is different from replying to a single comment and telling that commenter why their argument is poor

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I do not believe Jett threw the race on purpose and believe his ankle is a big problem but when I saw this, it is funny...

I do not believe Jett threw the race on purpose and believe his ankle is a big problem but when I saw this, it is funny but i'm sure it will offend a bunch of you. 781360861 2570014546796430 971080159886423908 n 

Can we get a shake n bake ai meme lol

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Tyler D wrote:
i love it when people post emotionally charged arguments while calling other people idiots. not saying you are one, or that you're wrong, but let people...

i love it when people post emotionally charged arguments while calling other people idiots. not saying you are one, or that you're wrong, but let people make their arguments just like you're making yours without calling them idiots. there's enough funny business for people to make a case that the opposite is at least plausible. we'll never know for sure. just let it ride.  it's like people that get bent out of shape if you tell them you're not convinced that AGW is calculable...

@Hammer 663s wouldn't you agree?

ando wrote:

But if their argument is idiotic, well...

Tyler D wrote:
"anybody who thinks this is an idiot because I've already made up my mind and I know everything" Is different from replying to a single comment and...

"anybody who thinks this is an idiot because I've already made up my mind and I know everything" 

Is different from replying to a single comment and telling that commenter why their argument is poor

Where is the quote you just referenced?  I couldn’t find it anywhere.

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ando wrote:

But if their argument is idiotic, well...

Tyler D wrote:
"anybody who thinks this is an idiot because I've already made up my mind and I know everything" Is different from replying to a single comment and...

"anybody who thinks this is an idiot because I've already made up my mind and I know everything" 

Is different from replying to a single comment and telling that commenter why their argument is poor

ando wrote:

Where is the quote you just referenced?  I couldn’t find it anywhere.

You learned about Ockham but not how to synthesize and paraphrase. Idk man. 

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Does the AMA allow shots during competition now?

yes

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Tyler D wrote:
"anybody who thinks this is an idiot because I've already made up my mind and I know everything" Is different from replying to a single comment and...

"anybody who thinks this is an idiot because I've already made up my mind and I know everything" 

Is different from replying to a single comment and telling that commenter why their argument is poor

ando wrote:

Where is the quote you just referenced?  I couldn’t find it anywhere.

Tyler D wrote:

You learned about Ockham but not how to synthesize and paraphrase. Idk man. 

FTE was spot on in his analysis.  A lot of people are rejecting rational and highly likely explanations for what happened in the race, instead choosing to theorise about all sorts of wild conspiracies.  That is idiotic behaviour.

Furthermore, and contrary to your previous post, he did expand on why he disagrees with the notion that there was some sort of collusion or attempt to manufacture a result.

I understand paraphrasing perfectly but when you put it in quotation marks you go beyond paraphrasing and are effectively putting words into someone else’s mouth.  

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Poor guy. Finishes an amazing seson and finally wins a 450 title after coming so close so many times and all people do is come up...

Poor guy. Finishes an amazing seson and finally wins a 450 title after coming so close so many times and all people do is come up with ridiculous BS to demerit it. If Jett doesn't line up outdoors and Hunter wins damn near every moto the same people would go yEah BuT JeTt wAsnT tHeRE 😭

If Jett and Hunter were out, Deegan would have quite a few wins, plus the title.  Guess what people like you would be saying?

 

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Another idiotic theory laid to rest.

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Another idiotic theory laid to rest.

You're right, if they were guilty they absolutely would have confessed on Pulp.

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CPR wrote:

Another idiotic theory laid to rest.

3strokemx wrote:

You're right, if they were guilty they absolutely would have confessed on Pulp.

So you think they are continuing the lie with Dazzy stating they lost several 100k on Hunter winning due to bonus structure, meaning the last even slightly logical reason for doing has been killed🤦😅

 

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So you think they are continuing the lie with Dazzy stating they lost several 100k on Hunter winning due to bonus structure, meaning the last even...

So you think they are continuing the lie with Dazzy stating they lost several 100k on Hunter winning due to bonus structure, meaning the last even slightly logical reason for doing has been killed🤦😅

 

LOL, no.  I just pointed out that people committing fraud would also would lie about it.   

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Championship endorsements will easily cover money “lost”. IMO, everyone is put in a tough spot, if Jett wins then his brother loses yet another championship by the skin of his teeth due to a mental mistake he makes. If Hunter wins, he finally is vindicated in his efforts and gets the monkey off his back, but then this discussion happens. Fact is, the championship is over, Hunter is the victor, and the rest is up for us Vitard’s to fight over. None of us will ever know what really happened. I am stoked for Hunter and bummed for our sport, that’s all I’ll say. 

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CPR wrote:

Another idiotic theory laid to rest.

3strokemx wrote:

You're right, if they were guilty they absolutely would have confessed on Pulp.

guilty of what exactly? Sorry if I missed it, but was there something done illeagal? Dude, who gives a shit eather way, doesnt affect you or me. They can do whatever they want and thats the end of it. Its over, move on to your next conspiricy that has no effect on you personally. Or maby go back to your own life and try to be a better person or do better at work, idk, but this is so stupid to continue to discuss, dont you think? Who gives a shit! 

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guilty of what exactly? Sorry if I missed it, but was there something done illeagal? Dude, who gives a shit eather way, doesnt affect you or...

guilty of what exactly? Sorry if I missed it, but was there something done illeagal? Dude, who gives a shit eather way, doesnt affect you or me. They can do whatever they want and thats the end of it. Its over, move on to your next conspiricy that has no effect on you personally. Or maby go back to your own life and try to be a better person or do better at work, idk, but this is so stupid to continue to discuss, dont you think? Who gives a shit! 

Rigging a sporting event is illegal when gambling is involved. 

If they are guilty, do you think they would admit it on Pulpmx?  

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