Are we watching the death of triumph racing

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Cortami79 wrote:

If they fix the transmission and clutch issues, I’d buy one in a heartbeat

In 2026 these should not even be things. 

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Idk I think one championship with 1 guy on a suzuki doesnt sell a lot of bikes, but making a good bike and winning a lot...

Idk I think one championship with 1 guy on a suzuki doesnt sell a lot of bikes, but making a good bike and winning a lot sure worked out for ktm… and now yamaha. Those are the 2 most popular bikes now. Its not the only thing but I think sustained success throughout multiple classes and championships sells bikes. 

Worked out great for KTM.  They went broke and now they’re an Indian company.  Speaking of broke, ask Lucas Coenen and Prado about reliability since the...

Worked out great for KTM.  They went broke and now they’re an Indian company.  Speaking of broke, ask Lucas Coenen and Prado about reliability since the Indian takeover.  There’s a lot more to making money selling bikes than just winning races.  

You think Bajaj went in and changed sourcing partners used to build the current factory bikes? 😂

People sometimes.

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Triumph motorcycles have always had reliability issues. They need to fix that reputation and they did not do that. The market is too saturated

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Didn’t they sign AP7 for 2027 ?? 

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MX315mx wrote:

Didn’t they sign AP7 for 2027 ?? 

Yes, AP7 is signed for ‘27 and ‘28. 

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Between, the elec, Chinese options, Japan, Ktm, Beta etc. something has to give. Tracks are shutting down all over America. If we don’t have any place to ride there will be no bikes to sell.  

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7/13/2026 9:35am
spimx wrote:

Triumph motorcycles have always had reliability issues. They need to fix that reputation and they did not do that. The market is too saturated

What a bummer. Did you have issues with yours?

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7/13/2026 9:37am
crt32 wrote:

I've seen maybe 2 between Oklahoma and Texas. Are they selling any bikes?

I was talking to a big Triumph dealer here in FL, and the only way they've been able to move the 250 or 450 is by giving them away price wise.

Said more Ducati 450's move than the Triumphs. 

OT, but locally I haven't seen any on any track/trail from East to west coast of FL. 

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7/13/2026 9:54am
I’ve heard that triumph is only going to be running one 250 next year. To me this is crazy if your a new brand trying to...

I’ve heard that triumph is only going to be running one 250 next year. To me this is crazy if your a new brand trying to expand your image. I’m a big fan and they had a great 4 man team that didn’t pan out last year but you gotta have bikes out there and 1 250 supercross rookie seems like a major failure to me. The only thing I can think of that they might try keep the 450 in house and farm out the 250 program to a team in 2028. If that’s the case it’s understandable and I think could be a better option.

If it hasn’t been answered yet, the team will be 

450 Smith and AP 

250 Deano and another rider not signed yet. 

7/13/2026 10:22am
I’ve heard that triumph is only going to be running one 250 next year. To me this is crazy if your a new brand trying to...

I’ve heard that triumph is only going to be running one 250 next year. To me this is crazy if your a new brand trying to expand your image. I’m a big fan and they had a great 4 man team that didn’t pan out last year but you gotta have bikes out there and 1 250 supercross rookie seems like a major failure to me. The only thing I can think of that they might try keep the 450 in house and farm out the 250 program to a team in 2028. If that’s the case it’s understandable and I think could be a better option.

If it hasn’t been answered yet, the team will be 

450 Smith and AP 

250 Deano and another rider not signed yet. 

I heard they were looking but haven’t been able to get anyone up to there expecting yet.

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My 250 has been excellent so far. Got a great deal on it last spring. After a year of owning it I’d buy the bike again if I had to do it over. 

Been seeing a handful of them at the tracks lately as well. 

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7/13/2026 11:42am

If anyone knows of a grenaded 250 Triumph roller,  LMK.

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Wild that we have 10ish choices for a 250f or 450.

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I had a 2012 675r that I bought brand new, it ran great super fast but a few years into owning it some problems started and the bike left me stranded more than any other vehicle I ever owned. Some of the problems had been going on with the bike for 6 years since gen 1 2006. Some of the wires were so small my wire strippers could not strip the wire and the bike caught fire 2x. 12 was the last year for gen 2 675s 

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I think a big issue is the triumph dealers are typically euro street bike dealers, not dirt bike shops.  So the employees likely have little background in moto, don't have stacks of mx tires, moto gear, parts, etc in stock.  And if you only get a handful of dirt bikes in then you're not going to invest the money into all the inventory to sell to moto customers since you'll only have a few customers most likely.  I truly don't know how they thought this would work.  I'm glad more brands are getting into moto but theres a lot more to it than just making a good bike.  

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7/14/2026 10:49am

Who says Triumph is only running one 250 next year? No 450?

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spimx wrote:
I had a 2012 675r that I bought brand new, it ran great super fast but a few years into owning it some problems started and...

I had a 2012 675r that I bought brand new, it ran great super fast but a few years into owning it some problems started and the bike left me stranded more than any other vehicle I ever owned. Some of the problems had been going on with the bike for 6 years since gen 1 2006. Some of the wires were so small my wire strippers could not strip the wire and the bike caught fire 2x. 12 was the last year for gen 2 675s 

I had a similar year tripler. Leaked like a sieve but god was it a fun bike.


Edit: when it was running 

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7/14/2026 6:32pm
Spooner wrote:
I think a big issue is the triumph dealers are typically euro street bike dealers, not dirt bike shops.  So the employees likely have little background...

I think a big issue is the triumph dealers are typically euro street bike dealers, not dirt bike shops.  So the employees likely have little background in moto, don't have stacks of mx tires, moto gear, parts, etc in stock.  And if you only get a handful of dirt bikes in then you're not going to invest the money into all the inventory to sell to moto customers since you'll only have a few customers most likely.  I truly don't know how they thought this would work.  I'm glad more brands are getting into moto but theres a lot more to it than just making a good bike.  

Even the dealerships that do moto if they don’t structure their setup for selling Triumph moto correctly it’s also poor.


When I put money down on my 2024 Triumph I initially went with a large local dealership well known for selling another brand of mx bikes. They had their Triumph street guy doing the MX stuff, and he had zero clue about mx in any way shape or form. Would’ve made a whole lot more sense to let the guy(s) selling the other brand also takeover just the Triumph MX portion but no…

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7/14/2026 7:22pm
Spooner wrote:
I think a big issue is the triumph dealers are typically euro street bike dealers, not dirt bike shops.  So the employees likely have little background...

I think a big issue is the triumph dealers are typically euro street bike dealers, not dirt bike shops.  So the employees likely have little background in moto, don't have stacks of mx tires, moto gear, parts, etc in stock.  And if you only get a handful of dirt bikes in then you're not going to invest the money into all the inventory to sell to moto customers since you'll only have a few customers most likely.  I truly don't know how they thought this would work.  I'm glad more brands are getting into moto but theres a lot more to it than just making a good bike.  

a fair number of triumph dealers also sell Ducati or KTM/Husky, so maybe combined they'll do enough volume? still a weird situation, although the ADV stuff is getting more popular and there's a little bit of overlap there. 

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8th overall for Jordan Smith and Harrupp i think 13th. Not a bad weekend 

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The 250 Euro are killing it right now.

And I just passed 50hrs on my 250 with zero trans/clutch issues. Love the bike in the woods. Turns better then my KTM.

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7/28/2026 9:05am
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The 250 Euro are killing it right now.And I just passed 50hrs on my 250 with zero trans/clutch issues. Love the bike in the woods. Turns...

The 250 Euro are killing it right now.

And I just passed 50hrs on my 250 with zero trans/clutch issues. Love the bike in the woods. Turns better then my KTM.

Yea I just started watching mxgp and they are doing really well… I really wish they would make more of an effort in the US. I feel like having 2 250 riders puts you in a situation were your probably going to have several races without rider on one of the coasts. After listening to Jeremy Coker on Pulpmx it sounds like they will do some team support which I think might be the future of American racing anyway.

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TAUTOG wrote:
The 250 Euro are killing it right now.And I just passed 50hrs on my 250 with zero trans/clutch issues. Love the bike in the woods. Turns...

The 250 Euro are killing it right now.

And I just passed 50hrs on my 250 with zero trans/clutch issues. Love the bike in the woods. Turns better then my KTM.

Yea I just started watching mxgp and they are doing really well… I really wish they would make more of an effort in the US. I...

Yea I just started watching mxgp and they are doing really well… I really wish they would make more of an effort in the US. I feel like having 2 250 riders puts you in a situation were your probably going to have several races without rider on one of the coasts. After listening to Jeremy Coker on Pulpmx it sounds like they will do some team support which I think might be the future of American racing anyway.

Who’s their 2 250 riders going to be? Last I heard was that they were only doing one 250 with Deacon Denno. 

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Apparently Triumph did a safety recall on TF models in ‘25 and ‘26 and reportedly instructed dealers to install upgraded drivetrains at the same time it fixed the initial safety issue (something with the brake reservoir). 

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joshd wrote:
Between, the elec, Chinese options, Japan, Ktm, Beta etc. something has to give. Tracks are shutting down all over America. If we don’t have any place...

Between, the elec, Chinese options, Japan, Ktm, Beta etc. something has to give. Tracks are shutting down all over America. If we don’t have any place to ride there will be no bikes to sell.  

Don't forget to mention 11,000-12,000 bucks for a new 450

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The only one I have ever seen for sale used was a 250x converted to be road legal. Really strange choice for a plated bike IMO. 

7/28/2026 11:51am
TAUTOG wrote:
The 250 Euro are killing it right now.And I just passed 50hrs on my 250 with zero trans/clutch issues. Love the bike in the woods. Turns...

The 250 Euro are killing it right now.

And I just passed 50hrs on my 250 with zero trans/clutch issues. Love the bike in the woods. Turns better then my KTM.

Yea I just started watching mxgp and they are doing really well… I really wish they would make more of an effort in the US. I...

Yea I just started watching mxgp and they are doing really well… I really wish they would make more of an effort in the US. I feel like having 2 250 riders puts you in a situation were your probably going to have several races without rider on one of the coasts. After listening to Jeremy Coker on Pulpmx it sounds like they will do some team support which I think might be the future of American racing anyway.

ohh_454 wrote:

Who’s their 2 250 riders going to be? Last I heard was that they were only doing one 250 with Deacon Denno. 

Not sure. Heard they were looking and talking to guys but I haven’t heard any one name for sure. Seems like Gilliam Farres would be the natural fit but I heard he doesn’t want to race in the US anymore.

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Yea I just started watching mxgp and they are doing really well… I really wish they would make more of an effort in the US. I...

Yea I just started watching mxgp and they are doing really well… I really wish they would make more of an effort in the US. I feel like having 2 250 riders puts you in a situation were your probably going to have several races without rider on one of the coasts. After listening to Jeremy Coker on Pulpmx it sounds like they will do some team support which I think might be the future of American racing anyway.

ohh_454 wrote:

Who’s their 2 250 riders going to be? Last I heard was that they were only doing one 250 with Deacon Denno. 

Not sure. Heard they were looking and talking to guys but I haven’t heard any one name for sure. Seems like Gilliam Farres would be the...

Not sure. Heard they were looking and talking to guys but I haven’t heard any one name for sure. Seems like Gilliam Farres would be the natural fit but I heard he doesn’t want to race in the US anymore.

Farres is crushing it right now. It would be really cool to see him give it another shot over here.

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7/29/2026 9:44am
NickoBrap wrote:

Farres is crushing it right now. It would be really cool to see him give it another shot over here.

He's moving up to MXGP. 

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7/29/2026 2:09pm
NickoBrap wrote:

Farres is crushing it right now. It would be really cool to see him give it another shot over here.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

He's moving up to MXGP. 

I heard he was going to Kawi which doesn’t make any sense why triumph wouldn’t do everything to keep him.

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