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while i agree, id like to question why we haven't seen more siblings like this?
other than Sacha and Lucas who are on the rise..
If we go back, we have seen siblings come through the sport...
But why haven't we seen more dominant duos in the past due to what you said? They spent time apart training in different areas as Juniors in Europe at times. There's a big enough age gap between Jett and Hunter that we have seen siblings closer in age before.
I just think of all the brothers who have come through like T&W Hahn, Alessi's, Hill Bro's, Stewarts, Christophe and Sebastien Pourcel and so many more (including in the 70's). But it just makes you wonder what the secret formular is.. Maybe Dazzy's got some tricks up his sleeve
They remind me of Tomac, how they both have a really good base setup to the bike and they let the bike do a lot of the work. They always seem to be in an attack position, but even when they get bounced around, they have really good balance and they're able to attack. I think their biggest strength is that they're able to identify the single fastest way around the WHOLE track, and they won't prioritize being crazy fast in one section if it makes them slower in the next section. They carry tons of mid corner speed, and they don't rely on crazy acceleration to make obstacles, or super hard braking to hit certain lines so they stay very consistent from one lap to the next.
Slow in, fast out.
This.
We used to call it, staying quiet on the bike.
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It starts with setup, both are able to run a softer bike, which transfers to a more balanced, stable bike, with better traction. Most US guys set their bikes up stiff because of supercross and still run a stiff setup compared to GP based riders. US based riders are taught to brake into turns as late as possible, slam on the brakes, and square up the turn. They brake early and smoothly accelerate into ruts and carry higher mid-corner and exit speeds with smooth throttle control down the straight. They sit tall and central on the bike, which keeps their weight centered. US riders arch their backs, and hang off the back, or are way over the bars.
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Grade A is still Amateur, right?
Is that the dad of the Moss guys that got busted for doping?
Anyone else think Hunter looks a bit like Reed on the bike? Cant put my finger on it, but I get glimpses of 2011 Reed when I watch him
I can't believe anyone hasn't mentioned the use of ANY bump to clear rough parts of the track.
With a lot of the stuff that was already mentioned I think a lot of what helps them is you have the top two guys riding the same bike so that's a good amount of comparison data and they ride together. That iron sharpens iron kinda thing.
Case in point: Chase. I suspect a lot of his issues are not being able to accurately relay what is going on with the bike.
Noone has mentioned JohnnyO. I think he is making a much bigger impact than people realize.
Cairolis KTM 450 was basically using the same setup US riders are using for SX for the forks. Ultrastiff.
Mosiman has a video on it from him test riding Cairolis bike.
It varies, based on rider preference. Lawrence's are very precise so maybe they can run a softer setup in general but I don't think this is a general MXGP vs AMA setup thing anymore.
I don’t think their setup is a GP hangover so to speak, their style allows a softer bike. A softer bike is easier to setup and stays planted better. I know Johnny preaches a softer bike too.
Another thing, both boys spent time with Ken’s dad, Ken runs probably the softest bike on the line.
"She's deep and wet"
I also noticed Hunters finish line celebration and even commented at the watch party I was at “god I wish I could just do that.” Strength, balance, and confidence after a long day. It was simple and yet incredible.
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I think it's their eyes and the ability to process information faster. If you've ever tried to ride fast above your head, things come at you faster, and you make mistakes. I think the elite elite elite riders can slow things down in their minds and their mach speed feels like us cruising around on a pit bike. It's the same way with people who race F1 or other fast cars, the ability to slow information down.
Less time shooting their mouths off on social media, getting arrested, and making inflammatory T shirts.
More time being methodical about training/technique/bike setup/Teamwork - (With their trainer and the guys who work on their bikes)
And Vegimite.
I'm in training now...
Bit light on the Vegemite for my liking…
The fact there have been so many brothers through the pro ranks just proves how beneficial it is to have someone pushing you all the time. Normal kids have to try and be better than the next guy only when they're at the track. Brother's have to do it constantly. I think they also had a solid program from dad (and others aka kens dad) growing up. Like someone else said, their fundamentals are flawless. Couple that with an athlete attitude where second is still losing and you got the lawrence brothers we see today.
Physics and intelligence. I think HRC has taken a leap with data, technology, and applying the principles of physics to dirt bike racing. The Lawrence brothers have the intelligence to properly absorb and apply what the engineers and data are telling them is the fastest, most efficient way to ride. They are playing chess while the other top tier teams are playing checkers. I believe this same phenomenon is happening with some MXGP teams and, certainly MotoGP, F1, etc. Having, fit, intelligent, and motivated athletes on the bikes is the biggest variable, for sure, but there is definitely some magic inside the HRC team and bikes. As a disclaimer, I am the furthest thing from a Lawrence fan, and I typically despise most things Honda.
Hahah... love the honesty!
but have to ask, why do you "typically despise most things Honda." ? Is it the color, the team managers, that the same corporation race F1, maybe that they also cater to slow backyard riders and usually their bikes are not exactly horsepower kings?
I don't despise, but I don't feel positive about Suzuki, they have showed for many years they don't care about Moto...and as a enthusiast I like Honda more than the company that doesn't like dirt bikes.
Consistency, in every aspect
Are we sure it’s not the tight pants?
Great feet/legs.
Well, I hate to be one of those Old Bastards that go on about 'Kids Being Soft' - but bloody hell, when I saw Bega are bringing out a Kids Version / Kid Friendly Vegemite, well, I deduced we are Done For!
We'll be raising a bunch of little blighters, that are Soft As - not growing up , and growing to love, that Superb, Delicious, but pretty bloody Savage 'thing' that is Normal Vegemite.
What's the (Aussie) World coming to?
If you don't run your Vegemite at at least a quarter of an Inch thick - you're a Flammin' Wuss !
That pic put up by Skypig, then you, Last2Stroke, shows that we've already had a generation of Vegemite 'fearfuls' - that's just a Pathetic amount of the Food Of The Gods !
I'm just trying to reduce my salt intake!
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