Panic Button for Chase/Kawi?

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Problem wasn't same on Honda or KTM. I mean he went from last to first on the KTM. Don't see him coming anywhere close to that on...

Problem wasn't same on Honda or KTM. I mean he went from last to first on the KTM. 

Don't see him coming anywhere close to that on the kawi in outdoors. I think the Kawi is not even close to being in the window and riders feel that right away. As Carmichael said, he could feel a new headpipe wasn't going to work riding from the pits to the track.

I think Jett is causing issues for all riders because they will need to have a Tomac 2015 level of setup to beat him since they are down on talent, starts and other things. I mean Webb went back to 2025 bike when he heard Jett was out, no more searching to try and get a better setup.

100% agree with this - “I think Jett is causing issues for all riders because they will need to have a Tomac 2015 level…” to beat...

100% agree with this - “I think Jett is causing issues for all riders because they will need to have a Tomac 2015 level…” to beat him. 

ando wrote:

It’s funny how setup issues appear out of nowhere when you start getting beaten regularly.

Sexton was a head case on the KTM when he won the last 7 outdoors. And when he won 7 supercrosses last year

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100% agree with this - “I think Jett is causing issues for all riders because they will need to have a Tomac 2015 level…” to beat...

100% agree with this - “I think Jett is causing issues for all riders because they will need to have a Tomac 2015 level…” to beat him. 

ando wrote:

It’s funny how setup issues appear out of nowhere when you start getting beaten regularly.

aees wrote:
All these riders are on the same level, besides Jett. Bike setup is the key determining factor if everyone is healthy, together with starts."Just ride the...

All these riders are on the same level, besides Jett. Bike setup is the key determining factor if everyone is healthy, together with starts.

"Just ride the bike" worked 25y ago. 

Way to many examples. Gajser at Yamaha now, Webb going back to 2025 setup, Sexton right now, Jett taking a third because shock setting was off a bit. Tomac with the KTM. Prados switch. Roczen after 7y with the same chassi has finally stopped chasing it after swapping suspension partners, and as late as 3 or 4 weeks ago for the clutch dialed. After 7 years with same model?!

You're excuses are getting further and further down the rabbit hole and are making less and less sense... I dunno man, I am definitely aware of your position and I am good with just agreeing to disagree on this one. I don't think you are going to see what I am saying, and I am not seeing what you are saying. So all good.

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So you are on the other side of the spectrum. If you don't see that Chase has given up already I'm not sure what to say...

So you are on the other side of the spectrum. If you don't see that Chase has given up already I'm not sure what to say 😄 

Any reason why Jett is not riding these SX races when he is doing 30min Motos? Or Barcia really not wanting to go back but team pushed him.

Riders stay out of racing all the time, to not risk anything if there is nothing in it for them.

But I guess you are one of those that think staying at home from work is better than going there and doing some effort 🤦

DonM wrote:
Chase giving up? I see him coming from last place starts moving to the front and sometimes while doing so setting the some of the fastest...

Chase giving up? I see him coming from last place starts moving to the front and sometimes while doing so setting the some of the fastest laps of the race.

Your boy is doing the exact opposite by starting up front and then mailing it in/quitting for a tail end finish 

Jett just got back on the bike, a talus injury isn’t an injury you jump into SX with after a few weeks on the bike that is just a stupid analogy….

Some effort you talking about George? Or did you mean to say lack of effort because that is what I see….

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I'm sure Prado could move to midd pack or whatever starting last 😄. Remember last summer on KTM? Took an extended vacation. Webb? Riders coming back...

I'm sure Prado could move to midd pack or whatever starting last 😄. Remember last summer on KTM? Took an extended vacation. Webb? Riders coming back to SMX only, outdoors only. It's not a coincidence they happen to be healed just as a new season starts, is it?

Now its excuses for Jetts injury, you doing anything to find a position that is the opposite? 

Again, being on the job doing something always is considered better than staying at home. And pretty much every rider in the top has stayed at home when they could have come back. If only for a race. Why? Because it's not worth it.

So your comeback is speculation that he could come through the pack if he wanted to?… but in reality he hasn’t…I thought you were all about facts as you stated earlier 🤷🏼‍♂️. Now Chase’s injuries are considered vacations?…So you actually think that Jett isn’t racing SX right now isn’t because of his injury? Really?….and of course Eli coming back this weekend with 2 races left and no chance to win is his version of mailing it in…man you’re all over the place with your excuses for George….Now I do hope that he does come out swinging in outdoors and proves that he is the champion he was…but until the real Jorge shows up he will be just George…

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Mathes says Jamie from twisted has been brought in to help out. How long till Kawasaki Japan steps in and cleans house at factory kawi USA. 

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Mathes says Jamie from twisted has been brought in to help out. How long till Kawasaki Japan steps in and cleans house at factory kawi USA. 

Hopefully soon….

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4/30/2026 1:21pm
Money wrote:

Mathes says Jamie from twisted has been brought in to help out. How long till Kawasaki Japan steps in and cleans house at factory kawi USA. 

That is straight up embarrassing. If the C-Suites at Kawi were competent, they would have a long time ago. 

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I think history shows Chase bitches about setup whether winning or losing. He will look less attractive to potential employers in coming seasons as he always complains about the product he is hired to promote. After Prado Chase has to be a nightmare for Kawasaki PR.

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100% agree with this - “I think Jett is causing issues for all riders because they will need to have a Tomac 2015 level…” to beat...

100% agree with this - “I think Jett is causing issues for all riders because they will need to have a Tomac 2015 level…” to beat him. 

ando wrote:

It’s funny how setup issues appear out of nowhere when you start getting beaten regularly.

Sexton was a head case on the KTM when he won the last 7 outdoors. And when he won 7 supercrosses last year

What do those two scenarios have in common?

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ando wrote:

It’s funny how setup issues appear out of nowhere when you start getting beaten regularly.

Sexton was a head case on the KTM when he won the last 7 outdoors. And when he won 7 supercrosses last year

ando wrote:

What do those two scenarios have in common?

That even if he is winning he is a head case. I don’t care if Jett is there or not. 

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Money wrote:

Mathes says Jamie from twisted has been brought in to help out. How long till Kawasaki Japan steps in and cleans house at factory kawi USA. 

A long time ago a peer in a management position was cycling through direct reports at an alarming rate and blaming them for poor department performance.  Our general manager said to him one day - “how many more will it take before I stop looking at them and start looking at you?”

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Sexton was a head case on the KTM when he won the last 7 outdoors. And when he won 7 supercrosses last year

ando wrote:

What do those two scenarios have in common?

That even if he is winning he is a head case. I don’t care if Jett is there or not. 

I’d agree but when Jett is on the line it appears Chase just pushes too hard.

With regard to the current situation I don’t think it’s as easy as blaming just one factor.  More likely it’s the perfect storm of factors - a bike with dubious potential, a rider who is notoriously bad at setup, and a management team who don’t have the wherewithal to get things right.

The pathways have been different but Chase and Prado have ended up in similar situations.  Kawasaki will be the biggest losers in this.  They allowed it to happen once which was bad but recoverable; if Chase somehow exits the contract early no factory level rider will want to touch them with a barge pole.  Even with a new bike and cleaning house they’ll be in the wilderness for at least a few years.

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Money wrote:

Mathes says Jamie from twisted has been brought in to help out. How long till Kawasaki Japan steps in and cleans house at factory kawi USA. 

Wonder if this is what Phil was talking about when he said he knew what was wrong but couldn't say? He has said before that Jamie is who got his Canadian kawi right. 

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4/30/2026 5:16pm

Maybe I’ve missed confirmation, but is it just the engine that is the complaint? I can’t remember if Prado complained about the engine or chassis first, but I remember both. Has Chase been verbal on both as well?

4/30/2026 5:22pm

I dont have any evidence to back this, and it's really just a hunch, but I get the feeling Chase just really really wants something he can't have, like "my last year GEICO 250" in terms of an overall feeling/frokt rear balance, and he won't take "we simply can't give you that" as an answer.  

 

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Isn’t Kawasaki known for paying riders very well? I don’t remember where I saw that, but it’s something I remember hearing multiple times over the last 40 years.

Maybe that’s why they keep getting top riders.

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twisted computer in the chair. Is jamie helping out kawi now on the low low  

twisted computer in the chair. Is jamie helping out kawi now on the low low  

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Yeah wow, it really is that bad!

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How is that Kawi engine builder doing who told Prado to f..up? Does he still have office job at Kawasaki?

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tek14 wrote:

How is that Kawi engine builder doing who told Prado to f..up? Does he still have office job at Kawasaki?

he told Chase he's not a champion either in his book

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So Dan Fahie can`t confirm or deny if Chase is racing the nationals?!
From 29:45

 

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VHM wrote:

So Dan Fahie can`t confirm or deny if Chase is racing the nationals?!
From 29:45

 

That is quite telling.... 

And when asked what he's been impressed with he comes up with "speed" when chase has been well off the pace this year..... 

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VHM wrote:

So Dan Fahie can`t confirm or deny if Chase is racing the nationals?!
From 29:45

 

WTF?

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VHM wrote:

So Dan Fahie can`t confirm or deny if Chase is racing the nationals?!
From 29:45

 

Everytime I hop on this thread reading the replies from people defending the team, downplaying the whole situation, "everything is fine", I think ok, maybe they are right to some degree. Its not that bad. And THEN listen to the actual interviews from the people involved it gets worse and worse week by week. Its crazy the manager cant confirm he is racing outdoors. If Chase really parts ways with kawi..who would have thought Prado is the one staying on the Team for MUCH longer ahahahah

Also, listen to what Chase said to Steve yesterday. The one thing hes really frustrating with the bike (turning), the team IS NOT even working on, or in his words "they havent touched on it". Like what kind of shit team is this honestly? 😂

Video should start on the part im refering to:

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5/2/2026 4:19am
VHM wrote:

So Dan Fahie can`t confirm or deny if Chase is racing the nationals?!
From 29:45

 

matze wrote:
Everytime I hop on this thread reading the replies from people defending the team, downplaying the whole situation, "everything is fine", I think ok, maybe they...

Everytime I hop on this thread reading the replies from people defending the team, downplaying the whole situation, "everything is fine", I think ok, maybe they are right to some degree. Its not that bad. And THEN listen to the actual interviews from the people involved it gets worse and worse week by week. Its crazy the manager cant confirm he is racing outdoors. If Chase really parts ways with kawi..who would have thought Prado is the one staying on the Team for MUCH longer ahahahah

Also, listen to what Chase said to Steve yesterday. The one thing hes really frustrating with the bike (turning), the team IS NOT even working on, or in his words "they havent touched on it". Like what kind of shit team is this honestly? 😂

Video should start on the part im refering to:

bro they have time to start working on that, it's only round 16 😂

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VHM wrote:

So Dan Fahie can`t confirm or deny if Chase is racing the nationals?!
From 29:45

 

matze wrote:
Everytime I hop on this thread reading the replies from people defending the team, downplaying the whole situation, "everything is fine", I think ok, maybe they...

Everytime I hop on this thread reading the replies from people defending the team, downplaying the whole situation, "everything is fine", I think ok, maybe they are right to some degree. Its not that bad. And THEN listen to the actual interviews from the people involved it gets worse and worse week by week. Its crazy the manager cant confirm he is racing outdoors. If Chase really parts ways with kawi..who would have thought Prado is the one staying on the Team for MUCH longer ahahahah

Also, listen to what Chase said to Steve yesterday. The one thing hes really frustrating with the bike (turning), the team IS NOT even working on, or in his words "they havent touched on it". Like what kind of shit team is this honestly? 😂

Video should start on the part im refering to:

Someone mentioned they wonder how long before the Kawasaki brass in Japan do something to straighten out this US Factory Team. They are a big part of the problem. They have always resisted feedback on everything. However, after seeing this interview by Team Manager Dan Fahie it's clear that the recent criticism of him and interactions with the riders in the past is sub-par. If he can't confirm Chase is racing the Nationals is beyond embarrassing at this point. If the brass in Japan put their ego's aside and let Pro Circuit run the 450 team they might be better off. Not sure Mitch really wants or can do that but my goodness this is beyond ridiculous at this point.

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What I got from his interview is that Kawasaki Japan does not design their bikes to do well in Supercross, they design them to do well in motocross. As such, they have little interest in determining how to change the bike to fix any Supercross-specific problems. Kinda makes sense, as motocross is what all but maybe .000001 percent of global riders participate in.

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5/2/2026 5:10am

I think the Kawi team manager shot that question down instantly because it’s just another way of asking if the rumours of Chase and the team already talking about parting ways is true. If Chase is on the team and healthy he’ll be racing outdoors. Kind of a silly question to ask given the context I think.

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I think the Kawi team manager shot that question down instantly because it’s just another way of asking if the rumours of Chase and the team...

I think the Kawi team manager shot that question down instantly because it’s just another way of asking if the rumours of Chase and the team already talking about parting ways is true. If Chase is on the team and healthy he’ll be racing outdoors. Kind of a silly question to ask given the context I think.

Not sure I agree with that.  Why not just say “Yes”?

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I think the Kawi team manager shot that question down instantly because it’s just another way of asking if the rumours of Chase and the team...

I think the Kawi team manager shot that question down instantly because it’s just another way of asking if the rumours of Chase and the team already talking about parting ways is true. If Chase is on the team and healthy he’ll be racing outdoors. Kind of a silly question to ask given the context I think.

youre trolling right?

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