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We run practice and then adjust the bikes to make it even. If Poto is running 2 seconds a lap faster (x%), then the AMA puts a device on his rear brake that slows his bike x%. That way everyone is equal and has an equal chance.
If this sounds totally rediculous, it is. but so is the talk of removing riders who "arent fast enough".
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Only 14 years of the same conversation and the same issues and the same negligence lmaooooo
I had never heard of the 107% concept so I was curious to see how it would look with this season's qualifying. Just looking at the 450 class here.
Can you run that again at 104? 104 seems to be better for sx. 107 is based on f1 rules.
Adjusted for 104
Definitely an interesting discussion. 107 too high - 104 potentially too aggressive, but there should be some sort of cut off.
What do you make of it?
So if Jett comes back and burns a smoking qual time, is he the only one allowed to race? 😂😂😂😂
I don't see how it could be relevant to moto. If you want to trim the field, trim it a number not a time. Or perhaps if you were trying to cover more scenarios, for example, in the MXGP fly-away races they have locals allowed to race who are lapped like around lap 3. Super dangerous - just trying to fill some gates. So you would have to say 1XX% of fastest guy, or 18 racers (trimmed number), whichever is less.
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Or (not my idea, but it’s a good one) ditch the 250 regional series and pump up the 450 payouts so that we have more fast guys riding 450s.
Basically, whatever it takes to get the whole field of riders to push hard through the entire race. It’s embarrassing to watch anyone in the 450 main coasting around the track, it’s literally the pinnacle of moto and several guys are just jellydicking their way around the track like it’s a practice session at a local track.
What do you think would happen? You think the podium would look vastly different than it does today?
Well, they aren’t… some of these guys get lapped in the heat races….
MXGP implemented a 107% rule about fifteen years ago following issues with super-slow locals. Then in Italy (maybe?) it rained, and a bunch of regular (and worthy) GP guys fell foul of it; riders who were never intended to be the target of the rule.
You can’t make riders any closer than current training and technique already does. Put a ceiling on race bike price and don’t allow the factory’s to run any part they can’t/wont sale to any other team, especially electronics.
Best bike, rider and team still win but the field is closer and everyone’s pocketbook isn’t so light.
Factories have enough riders they can still test under competition conditions they just can’t race anything they test until released to all the competing teams on their brand then it can trickle down to the public.
Or something along those lines.
I’m guessing that it’s no longer a rule? Some of the local guys they let race at the fly away races definitely don’t belong out there.
Seems like Eli's suggestion of 15 riders is about right.
No. When some good guys fell foul of it in the mud, I believe they scrapped it.
MotoGP uses 105%
Jelly dicking, I’m gonna steal that one thanks
Vince would have made it in at 107%. It would have to drop to 105% to get him out. So I recommend 105%.
I raced a National Road Race series - I was slow, and the kids I was racing were fast, and famous.
I didn’t make the 110% rule, and was prepared to sit it out and spectate (inc Pit/Front row for the World Championship races run concurrently with the National Champs)
The Clerk of the Course summoned me, and said “Don’t try and get out of the way. Ride safe. Hold your line. Enjoy the racing.” It was a long track, in last place, had it to myself till the last lap, when I was lapped by the leaders. Such good memories.
The whole thing is tricky. We don’t want to exclude anymore people than we have too. We want to accept “lappers” as part of the sport - the racer that “deals” with the lappers, Like the racer that “deals” with the whoops, gets an advantage. We don’t want extra risk, or lappers alone deciding the outcome.
I’ve suggested on another thread that the Blue flag meaning is amended to include: “you can’t improve your position by passing under a Blue”. So a rider that slows/moves off “the” line for the leaders, isn’t passed by the person he is racing. If I was holding on to my first ever top ten: I’d be reluctant to look behind or do anything that might make me finish 11th. Thoughts?
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