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CPR wrote:
Just watched Pelletier’s explanation with Weege and JT; he didn’t even seem convinced himself 😂He said Lusk had done a heap of media about these ‘lead-in...

Just watched Pelletier’s explanation with Weege and JT; he didn’t even seem convinced himself 😂

He said Lusk had done a heap of media about these ‘lead-in lights. Anybody ever seen anything about it?
He also said Tomac, Roczen and Webb didn’t get sufficient warning of the red cross flag. Yet Hunter got it first and managed to see it and roll the finish, and all four riders got waved yellows in the sweeper beforehand. 
And to top it off, he said they’ll make sure these new rules NOW get entered into the rule book.

If there wasn’t so much at stake, everyone would be laughing. Honda have fair grounds for appeal imo.

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I agree with the AMA's ruling. I'm sorry Jo rolled, but it is absolutely unacceptable to penalize Pierce if he was following the rules. For Tomac and...

I agree with the AMA's ruling. I'm sorry Jo rolled, but it is absolutely unacceptable to penalize Pierce if he was following the rules. 

For Tomac and the other guys - the entire reason the lead-in lights were created was to warn of a pending incident. Hunter on Pulp says he rolled because he both saw the lights and the red cross flag. Tomac and others didn't have the lights on so AMA (correctly) said there was insufficient warning. You can argue the lights should have been on as the red cross flag was out for Tomac, but it wasn't. 

There isn't alot of ownership by the teams if they feel Ezra's communication was "sloppy". He is overcommunicating the rules - they should know them. Gaslighting him saying he hasn't done enough is BS. There is never enough communication when someone isn't accountable. 

Dan541 wrote:
Here's what I consider to be the main issue:Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. The rule...

Here's what I consider to be the main issue:

Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. 

The rule book says to NOT jump on a red light. 

The light that flashed, was red. 

Lead in or not, is irrelevant, the rule book says red light.

So, by not enforcing any penalties, they are essentially ignoring their own rule book. This cannot be a thing in a professional sport, or have we officially converted to a circus?

And adding, they already taken accountability for that it should go into the book, and of course it should. 

But verbal communication of rules still apply, and also as he said, they can apply race director discretion for the decision if someone wants to dispute the former.

The calls was the right one, based on info we and the riders have gotten. No matter if it's written in a book or not.

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CPR wrote:
Just watched Pelletier’s explanation with Weege and JT; he didn’t even seem convinced himself 😂He said Lusk had done a heap of media about these ‘lead-in...

Just watched Pelletier’s explanation with Weege and JT; he didn’t even seem convinced himself 😂

He said Lusk had done a heap of media about these ‘lead-in lights. Anybody ever seen anything about it?
He also said Tomac, Roczen and Webb didn’t get sufficient warning of the red cross flag. Yet Hunter got it first and managed to see it and roll the finish, and all four riders got waved yellows in the sweeper beforehand. 
And to top it off, he said they’ll make sure these new rules NOW get entered into the rule book.

If there wasn’t so much at stake, everyone would be laughing. Honda have fair grounds for appeal imo.

KurtJ99 wrote:
I agree with the AMA's ruling. I'm sorry Jo rolled, but it is absolutely unacceptable to penalize Pierce if he was following the rules. For Tomac and...

I agree with the AMA's ruling. I'm sorry Jo rolled, but it is absolutely unacceptable to penalize Pierce if he was following the rules. 

For Tomac and the other guys - the entire reason the lead-in lights were created was to warn of a pending incident. Hunter on Pulp says he rolled because he both saw the lights and the red cross flag. Tomac and others didn't have the lights on so AMA (correctly) said there was insufficient warning. You can argue the lights should have been on as the red cross flag was out for Tomac, but it wasn't. 

There isn't alot of ownership by the teams if they feel Ezra's communication was "sloppy". He is overcommunicating the rules - they should know them. Gaslighting him saying he hasn't done enough is BS. There is never enough communication when someone isn't accountable. 

Dan541 wrote:
Here's what I consider to be the main issue:Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. The rule...

Here's what I consider to be the main issue:

Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. 

The rule book says to NOT jump on a red light. 

The light that flashed, was red. 

Lead in or not, is irrelevant, the rule book says red light.

So, by not enforcing any penalties, they are essentially ignoring their own rule book. This cannot be a thing in a professional sport, or have we officially converted to a circus?

Why is it surprising? The name "CircusCross" should have been a clue years ago.

It's an artificial, made-for-TV event.

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Last sentence in the AMA rule book; "Ignore it, and it'll go away." 

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All this so they don't have to employ a full time crew of trained flaggers.  

Yep and this in part is the largest rub outside of the AMA constantly changing rules, and not applying the actual ruling itself.  Pay some damn flaggers to be a part of the program and get on with it.  Train them, and they find consistency.  Could you imagine any other sport that says ok guys "were going to pull a few volunteers from the stands, give them a quick run down and should be good to go". "I will be the umpire behind the plate, you guys will be the officials on first, and third". 

Unreal the joke that is this sport.

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KurtJ99 wrote:
I agree with the AMA's ruling. I'm sorry Jo rolled, but it is absolutely unacceptable to penalize Pierce if he was following the rules. For Tomac and...

I agree with the AMA's ruling. I'm sorry Jo rolled, but it is absolutely unacceptable to penalize Pierce if he was following the rules. 

For Tomac and the other guys - the entire reason the lead-in lights were created was to warn of a pending incident. Hunter on Pulp says he rolled because he both saw the lights and the red cross flag. Tomac and others didn't have the lights on so AMA (correctly) said there was insufficient warning. You can argue the lights should have been on as the red cross flag was out for Tomac, but it wasn't. 

There isn't alot of ownership by the teams if they feel Ezra's communication was "sloppy". He is overcommunicating the rules - they should know them. Gaslighting him saying he hasn't done enough is BS. There is never enough communication when someone isn't accountable. 

Dan541 wrote:
Here's what I consider to be the main issue:Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. The rule...

Here's what I consider to be the main issue:

Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. 

The rule book says to NOT jump on a red light. 

The light that flashed, was red. 

Lead in or not, is irrelevant, the rule book says red light.

So, by not enforcing any penalties, they are essentially ignoring their own rule book. This cannot be a thing in a professional sport, or have we officially converted to a circus?

aees wrote:
And adding, they already taken accountability for that it should go into the book, and of course it should. But verbal communication of rules still apply, and...

And adding, they already taken accountability for that it should go into the book, and of course it should. 

But verbal communication of rules still apply, and also as he said, they can apply race director discretion for the decision if someone wants to dispute the former.

The calls was the right one, based on info we and the riders have gotten. No matter if it's written in a book or not.

Verbal communication is good enough? Not the brightest bulb in the shed are you?

So if my cop friend tells me, hey, the new speed limit on the highway is 100mph, then I'm ok to go 100mph on it? Doesn't matter what the written law is, a cop told me it's different. He also told my neighbor it's 40mph... He doesn't like him as much.

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just checking in to make sure that our sport still behaves like a half-assed circus at the county fair........and...........leaving satisfied.

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Dan541 wrote:
Here's what I consider to be the main issue:Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. The rule...

Here's what I consider to be the main issue:

Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. 

The rule book says to NOT jump on a red light. 

The light that flashed, was red. 

Lead in or not, is irrelevant, the rule book says red light.

So, by not enforcing any penalties, they are essentially ignoring their own rule book. This cannot be a thing in a professional sport, or have we officially converted to a circus?

aees wrote:
And adding, they already taken accountability for that it should go into the book, and of course it should. But verbal communication of rules still apply, and...

And adding, they already taken accountability for that it should go into the book, and of course it should. 

But verbal communication of rules still apply, and also as he said, they can apply race director discretion for the decision if someone wants to dispute the former.

The calls was the right one, based on info we and the riders have gotten. No matter if it's written in a book or not.

Dan541 wrote:
Verbal communication is good enough? Not the brightest bulb in the shed are you?So if my cop friend tells me, hey, the new speed limit on...

Verbal communication is good enough? Not the brightest bulb in the shed are you?

So if my cop friend tells me, hey, the new speed limit on the highway is 100mph, then I'm ok to go 100mph on it? Doesn't matter what the written law is, a cop told me it's different. He also told my neighbor it's 40mph... He doesn't like him as much.

Not to go into personal attacks here (to late I see), but I guess you have a hard time in real life.

Didn't say it was good, but still apply.

Just as most things in life, verbal communication is still binding. 

You could also argue, that for 30 races (it seems, since Jetts incident 2024) or so, no one has raised this as an issue.

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Motofinne wrote:
There is no mention of the lead on lights in the rule book, even the buffoon himself Mike Pelletier admitted it on record and said they...

There is no mention of the lead on lights in the rule book, even the buffoon himself Mike Pelletier admitted it on record and said they will add it to the rule book starting the next race.

HRC/Lawrences are absolutely taking this to court if Hunter loses the title by a couple of points to one of the riders that jumped.

Take it to court for what?  As mentioned, the rule book does state that AMA officials do have discretion with whether or not there were blatant violations of the rules. This in essence gives them wiggle room with whether or not penalties will be handed out.  

You can’t rely on the history of precedent either since many of the updated rules, which have been verbally expressed, were updated precisely because of past incidents, hence the current rules as explained by the AMA. 

Would Hunter really want to win a title that way?  Eli gained no advantage or points, and taking away points for a questionable call is a cheap bid for points in my opinion. 

I’m more sympathetic to Jo since he did lose a position and thus points, but that’s much different than the situation with Tomac. 

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KurtJ99 wrote:
I agree with the AMA's ruling. I'm sorry Jo rolled, but it is absolutely unacceptable to penalize Pierce if he was following the rules. For Tomac and...

I agree with the AMA's ruling. I'm sorry Jo rolled, but it is absolutely unacceptable to penalize Pierce if he was following the rules. 

For Tomac and the other guys - the entire reason the lead-in lights were created was to warn of a pending incident. Hunter on Pulp says he rolled because he both saw the lights and the red cross flag. Tomac and others didn't have the lights on so AMA (correctly) said there was insufficient warning. You can argue the lights should have been on as the red cross flag was out for Tomac, but it wasn't. 

There isn't alot of ownership by the teams if they feel Ezra's communication was "sloppy". He is overcommunicating the rules - they should know them. Gaslighting him saying he hasn't done enough is BS. There is never enough communication when someone isn't accountable. 

Dan541 wrote:
Here's what I consider to be the main issue:Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. The rule...

Here's what I consider to be the main issue:

Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. 

The rule book says to NOT jump on a red light. 

The light that flashed, was red. 

Lead in or not, is irrelevant, the rule book says red light.

So, by not enforcing any penalties, they are essentially ignoring their own rule book. This cannot be a thing in a professional sport, or have we officially converted to a circus?

aees wrote:

It's not part of the rule book, but still part of the rules. Big difference.

The issue is that Mike and crew have erred on the side of what he admitted was not communicated well (and also not understood by the athletes - see comments from Jo, Pierce, Hunter, etc) and is not in the rulebook, instead of what IS clearly in the rulebook. Doing so is poor judgement, weird, and as Chase noted: embarrassing for the sport.

Sure, use this situation to clarify things in the rulebook going forward, but don't choose to enforce today what isn't there.

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Dan541 2/24/2026 9:24am
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aees wrote:
And adding, they already taken accountability for that it should go into the book, and of course it should. But verbal communication of rules still apply, and...

And adding, they already taken accountability for that it should go into the book, and of course it should. 

But verbal communication of rules still apply, and also as he said, they can apply race director discretion for the decision if someone wants to dispute the former.

The calls was the right one, based on info we and the riders have gotten. No matter if it's written in a book or not.

Dan541 wrote:
Verbal communication is good enough? Not the brightest bulb in the shed are you?So if my cop friend tells me, hey, the new speed limit on...

Verbal communication is good enough? Not the brightest bulb in the shed are you?

So if my cop friend tells me, hey, the new speed limit on the highway is 100mph, then I'm ok to go 100mph on it? Doesn't matter what the written law is, a cop told me it's different. He also told my neighbor it's 40mph... He doesn't like him as much.

aees wrote:
Not to go into personal attacks here (to late I see), but I guess you have a hard time in real life.Didn't say it was good...

Not to go into personal attacks here (to late I see), but I guess you have a hard time in real life.

Didn't say it was good, but still apply.

Just as most things in life, verbal communication is still binding. 

You could also argue, that for 30 races (it seems, since Jetts incident 2024) or so, no one has raised this as an issue.

It's not a personal attack, just an observation.

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Dan541 wrote:
Here's what I consider to be the main issue:Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. The rule...

Here's what I consider to be the main issue:

Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. 

The rule book says to NOT jump on a red light. 

The light that flashed, was red. 

Lead in or not, is irrelevant, the rule book says red light.

So, by not enforcing any penalties, they are essentially ignoring their own rule book. This cannot be a thing in a professional sport, or have we officially converted to a circus?

aees wrote:

It's not part of the rule book, but still part of the rules. Big difference.

Motofinne wrote:
aees, your comment is the dumbest comment i have read on this forum in 2026. The rule book are the rules, there are no such things as...

aees, your comment is the dumbest comment i have read on this forum in 2026. 

The rule book are the rules, there are no such things as rules outside of the rule book ffs.

Your standpoint is, this hasn't been a rule since 2024 and it hasn't been applied to all previous races, without issues as it seems?

So 30 races or so, it has not been the rule you say? No one has brought up during pre season walk through of rules, team talks, that this isn't a rule because it's not in the book? That's your standpoint?

No matter what, your argument falls as stupid, because, race director can make the decision it was difficult to see the red cross flag, so it's not blatant which he would do.

Or you think Eli and the others jumped in even though they saw it? Because then they know about the rule, the rule that doesn't exist.

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Dan541 wrote:
Here's what I consider to be the main issue:Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. The rule...

Here's what I consider to be the main issue:

Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. 

The rule book says to NOT jump on a red light. 

The light that flashed, was red. 

Lead in or not, is irrelevant, the rule book says red light.

So, by not enforcing any penalties, they are essentially ignoring their own rule book. This cannot be a thing in a professional sport, or have we officially converted to a circus?

aees wrote:

It's not part of the rule book, but still part of the rules. Big difference.

tingo wrote:
The issue is that Mike and crew have erred on the side of what he admitted was not communicated well (and also not understood by the...

The issue is that Mike and crew have erred on the side of what he admitted was not communicated well (and also not understood by the athletes - see comments from Jo, Pierce, Hunter, etc) and is not in the rulebook, instead of what IS clearly in the rulebook. Doing so is poor judgement, weird, and as Chase noted: embarrassing for the sport.

Sure, use this situation to clarify things in the rulebook going forward, but don't choose to enforce today what isn't there.

What would you think would have been the outcome if they did the other way around? 😄 5 riders claiming the exact opposite.

You could hear it hasnt been communicated "enough", but it also sounded like it has been communicated but he didn't want to come across like he is throwing riders and teams under the bus. Because it doesn't change anything. 

That's why I'm curious about getting to know more about how and when Exactly it was communicated. If everyone has had the information at one point in time, it's not even a discussion if it applies or not

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Honda has very deep pockets. Comparatively, the AMA doesn't even have pants on, let alone pockets. And Feld have no say in this as they are...

Honda has very deep pockets. Comparatively, the AMA doesn't even have pants on, let alone pockets. And Feld have no say in this as they are a promoter, not the governing body that makes and enforces the rules.

I hope Honda take this as far as they need to, to make the AMA grovel and come back with their tail between their legs and apply the correct penalties. 

This whole thing could have been avoided but some pompous prick with an AMA shirt didn't want to be embarrassed for missing 2 obvious infractions. 

You are wrong here.... the "modern AMA" is literally just feld employees... Feld is literally the AMA now days... that's just how broken the racing is.... the AMA, at least in pro SX and MX, means absolutely nothing... if i'm wrong.. post your receipts... otherwise.. this is Feld directly Fking Honda.... and that neverrrr turns out well... those japanese are totally cool, until they aren't... 

i'm old enough to remember several different "owners" of Sx..... and its holy fnnnnn geeezzusssss time for a new one... 

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oh and pssst- this is what it looks like when FELD FIXES the races...... does nobody else see this???  

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lastly... Yogi's ass needs fired... he sucks as bad at this AMA thing as RC does at announcing... 

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gt80rider wrote:

oh and pssst- this is what it looks like when FELD FIXES the races...... does nobody else see this???  

Put your tin hat away, and Yogi has been good for the AMA.

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FFS, can we not suggest courts and lawyers… 

weak of heart are you?? just google PETA and FELD

Smile  

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Will they be bold enough to run 'screw the AMA' butt patches?

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What’s crazy to me about all this is, if they just would’ve applied the penalties everyone would have just accepted it. Some more begrudgingly than others, but it was a clear jump on a red cross light/flag. Not the first, won’t be the last time it happens. Just shrug it off and go “huh yeah, well, that sucks”


But no, instead it’s this big old controversy and for what? I genuinely cannot understand the AMA’s position on this. It’s anti rider, anti safety, anti fan and worst of all anti integrity of the sport. The only thing they seem interested in is covering their own ass, but instead they blew up what should’ve blown over into whatever the hell this is…

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What’s crazy to me about all this is, if they just would’ve applied the penalties everyone would have just accepted it. Some more begrudgingly than others...

What’s crazy to me about all this is, if they just would’ve applied the penalties everyone would have just accepted it. Some more begrudgingly than others, but it was a clear jump on a red cross light/flag. Not the first, won’t be the last time it happens. Just shrug it off and go “huh yeah, well, that sucks”


But no, instead it’s this big old controversy and for what? I genuinely cannot understand the AMA’s position on this. It’s anti rider, anti safety, anti fan and worst of all anti integrity of the sport. The only thing they seem interested in is covering their own ass, but instead they blew up what should’ve blown over into whatever the hell this is…

You think Star would have "just accepted" the penalty and forfeited the win if they had been previously informed by the AMA that it was okay to jump in that situation? 

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CPR wrote:
Just watched Pelletier’s explanation with Weege and JT; he didn’t even seem convinced himself 😂He said Lusk had done a heap of media about these ‘lead-in...

Just watched Pelletier’s explanation with Weege and JT; he didn’t even seem convinced himself 😂

He said Lusk had done a heap of media about these ‘lead-in lights. Anybody ever seen anything about it?
He also said Tomac, Roczen and Webb didn’t get sufficient warning of the red cross flag. Yet Hunter got it first and managed to see it and roll the finish, and all four riders got waved yellows in the sweeper beforehand. 
And to top it off, he said they’ll make sure these new rules NOW get entered into the rule book.

If there wasn’t so much at stake, everyone would be laughing. Honda have fair grounds for appeal imo.

What yellows are you referring too? The yellows in the whoops were for Anderson. If you look at the sweeper, the official with the yellow flag puts the yellow away before Tomac comes by...additionally if you look at the red cross flag, that official folds the flag as Tomac, Roczen, and Webb were approaching. It was not until Tomac is landing prior to the finish line take off that the flag is coming back out to be displayed.

Also, I am pretty sure Hunter mentioned on one of the shows that the red lights were flashing for him...so why were they not on for the others. It is obvious, they lifted the red cross flag situation. There are many videos/angles that can be watch to see why the AMA made the 450 decision. It simply came down to Tomac, Roczen, and Webb not given the appropriate time to react to the flag without creating a hazard to themselves by shutting it down of the face of the finish line take off.

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GrapeApe wrote:
You think Star would have "just accepted" the penalty and forfeited the win if they had been previously informed by the AMA that it was okay...

You think Star would have "just accepted" the penalty and forfeited the win if they had been previously informed by the AMA that it was okay to jump in that situation? 

Obviously they would’ve protested, but in an ideal world the decision would get referred back to the most objective set of guidelines which are what’s in the rule book. It plainly states lights or flag = no jumping. And there’s precedent for penalizing riders who have jumped on just a light or just a flag before. 

Hence the “more begrudgingly than others” because they probably would have lost that protest if the AMA showed any consistency in applying their own written rules. 

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aees wrote:

It's not part of the rule book, but still part of the rules. Big difference.

If it's not documented in the rulebook, and not documented in a competition bulletin or rulebook addendum, then no....it's not part of the rules. 

 

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aees wrote:

It's not part of the rule book, but still part of the rules. Big difference.

harescrambled wrote:

If it's not documented in the rulebook, and not documented in a competition bulletin or rulebook addendum, then no....it's not part of the rules. 

 

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markus8v_s3 2/24/2026 10:41am
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aees wrote:

It's not part of the rule book, but still part of the rules. Big difference.

Gentlemen, I think we’ve found Mike Pelletier’s burner account. 

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ab5772 2/24/2026 10:43am
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Deadric 2/24/2026 10:47am
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I get Honda being pissed about the 250 situation because thats a load of bull but I dont know how anyone in the sport could have expected Roczen and Tomac to do anything different. They had zero time to react to a completely botched red cross flag attempt.

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aees 2/24/2026 10:51am
2/24/2026 10:51am
aees wrote:

It's not part of the rule book, but still part of the rules. Big difference.

harescrambled wrote:

If it's not documented in the rulebook, and not documented in a competition bulletin or rulebook addendum, then no....it's not part of the rules. 

 

I'm pretty sure KTM, Star and AMA disagree.

I also disagree, if it has been informed to riders.

There are plenty of guidelines and even rules for a race you can communicate on race day that is not in the books. I do it at every race. 

You still need to follow them.

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mooch 2/24/2026 11:00am
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aees wrote:

It's not part of the rule book, but still part of the rules. Big difference.

harescrambled wrote:

If it's not documented in the rulebook, and not documented in a competition bulletin or rulebook addendum, then no....it's not part of the rules. 

 

aees wrote:
I'm pretty sure KTM, Star and AMA disagree.I also disagree, if it has been informed to riders.There are plenty of guidelines and even rules for a...

I'm pretty sure KTM, Star and AMA disagree.

I also disagree, if it has been informed to riders.

There are plenty of guidelines and even rules for a race you can communicate on race day that is not in the books. I do it at every race. 

You still need to follow them.

Thanks for all the input Mike...now get back to updating that rule book so that Ezra doesn't have to haul his azz all around the pits talking about the "rules" to anyone that might be listening.  When was the last time you watched any sport of any kind where an official made an outrageous call and then backs it up by saying "Well that's not actually in the rule book but one of our guys has been telling all the players about it" 

Comical that you're even trying to defend this bozo act. 

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Jabe 2/24/2026 11:07am
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Dan541 wrote:
Here's what I consider to be the main issue:Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. The rule...

Here's what I consider to be the main issue:

Mike P said, in that interview, that lead lights are NOT currently part of the rule book. 

The rule book says to NOT jump on a red light. 

The light that flashed, was red. 

Lead in or not, is irrelevant, the rule book says red light.

So, by not enforcing any penalties, they are essentially ignoring their own rule book. This cannot be a thing in a professional sport, or have we officially converted to a circus?

aees wrote:
And adding, they already taken accountability for that it should go into the book, and of course it should. But verbal communication of rules still apply, and...

And adding, they already taken accountability for that it should go into the book, and of course it should. 

But verbal communication of rules still apply, and also as he said, they can apply race director discretion for the decision if someone wants to dispute the former.

The calls was the right one, based on info we and the riders have gotten. No matter if it's written in a book or not.

Dan541 wrote:
Verbal communication is good enough? Not the brightest bulb in the shed are you?So if my cop friend tells me, hey, the new speed limit on...

Verbal communication is good enough? Not the brightest bulb in the shed are you?

So if my cop friend tells me, hey, the new speed limit on the highway is 100mph, then I'm ok to go 100mph on it? Doesn't matter what the written law is, a cop told me it's different. He also told my neighbor it's 40mph... He doesn't like him as much.

That same metaphor came to me as well. The mental gymnastics are just insane. In this thread and by the Ama.

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