TOTAL INCOMPETENCE OR SHEER DISHONESTY?

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12/1/2025 2:36pm

I don't think they see Ken as their 'star' anymore. 

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12/1/2025 2:36pm

Didn’t Kenny state in an interview that it was WSX that decided he wasn’t doing the full series? I need to try and find that.  

Around 1:30

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Those are not mutually exclusive options.  The venn diagram can and sometimes does overlap completely.

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12/1/2025 2:56pm

I'm like Schultz, I know nothing... Perhaps someone involved is hoping that Suzuki will pony up to persuade KR to compete? A WSX title beats nothing if you're Suzuki? 

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12/1/2025 3:11pm
There is an ad in the first post of this thread, advertising that Kenny will be racing an event that he will not attend. It is...

There is an ad in the first post of this thread, advertising that Kenny will be racing an event that he will not attend. It is strange, so we are discussing it on a moto forum. What do YOU not understand?

mb60 wrote:

Lol finally someone calling this person out. 

Lol finally someone calling these people out. 

Fixed it for ya...

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Didn’t Kenny state in an interview that it was WSX that decided he wasn’t doing the full series? I need to try and find that.  

Mavetism wrote:

Around 1:30

Thank you. So pretty clear that WSX, not Kenny, decided that he would only do 3 rounds.  He even says he would do them all of he could.  

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100% dishonesty. They knew which races Roczen would and wouldn’t race. 

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12/1/2025 4:35pm
MPJC wrote:

100% dishonesty. They knew which races Roczen would and wouldn’t race. 

He originally had a contract to race the full series, maybe the advertising was planned around that, before the deal was changed.

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Yeah, they were the last to learn "the deal was changed".

 

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MPJC wrote:

100% dishonesty. They knew which races Roczen would and wouldn’t race. 

He originally had a contract to race the full series, maybe the advertising was planned around that, before the deal was changed.

If I must put my tinfoil hat on. I hear that the Deegan decision to race some WSX rounds was last minute, and Kenny not racing the full series was last minute. I'm willing to bet they paid Deegan with money that was originally intended for Kenny. 

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No worries guys, I’ll fill in for Kenny.

Just waiting for PMG to send me my flight ticket.

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Didn’t Kenny state in an interview that it was WSX that decided he wasn’t doing the full series? I need to try and find that.  

Mavetism wrote:

Around 1:30

Thank you. So pretty clear that WSX, not Kenny, decided that he would only do 3 rounds.  He even says he would do them all of...

Thank you. So pretty clear that WSX, not Kenny, decided that he would only do 3 rounds.  He even says he would do them all of he could.  

I don’t think that WSX decided that Roczen wasn’t going to race the last 2, but it sounds like they DID decide that they weren’t going to pay him anything extra to show up and race……

I’d bet that they’d absolutely love to have him race for whatever PMG is paying him and the same purse money as the rest of the field!!!

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12/1/2025 5:37pm

Unpopular opinion but I don’t GAF about any races between MXoN and A1.  17+11 is enough.  These international rounds don’t mean anything and just make a horribly long season even longer.  They also expose top riders to unnecessary injury.

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Unpopular opinion but I don’t GAF about any races between MXoN and A1.  17+11 is enough.  These international rounds don’t mean anything and just make a...

Unpopular opinion but I don’t GAF about any races between MXoN and A1.  17+11 is enough.  These international rounds don’t mean anything and just make a horribly long season even longer.  They also expose top riders to unnecessary injury.

But… they also expose top riders to fans that wouldn’t normally have a chance to see them race in person. It’s a win for the sport as a whole. That said, I agree that the 17+11 is too many races.

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12/1/2025 9:34pm Edited Date/Time 12/1/2025 9:35pm
Boomslang wrote:

All.the fans in South Africa who have bought tickets feel screwed and are very pissed off..

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12/1/2025 11:13pm
From AI, and AI knows everything 😁
 
The 2025 FIM World Supercross Championship (WSX) season finale will take place in Cape Town, South Africa (not Durban) on December 13, 2025, at the DHL Stadium. The event will feature the full WSX Championship permanent rider lineup, with local wildcards still to be announced. 
The WSX Championship permanent riders competing in the SX1 (450cc) and SX2 (250cc) classes for the 2025 season finale include: 
 
SX1 (450cc) Championship Riders

Jason Anderson (USA) - Pipes Motorsports Group

Christian Craig (USA) - Quad Lock Honda

Joey Savatgy (USA) - Quad Lock Honda

Greg Aranda (France) - Team GSM

Austin Politelli (USA) - MotoConcepts Racing

Henry Miller (USA) - Rick Ware Racing

Justin Hill (USA) - Venum Bud Racing Kawasaki

Ryan Breece (USA) - MotoConcepts Racing

Devin Simonson (USA) - Rick Ware Racing

Jordi Tixier (France) - Team GSM

Matt Moss (Australia) - Venum Bud Racing Kawasaki

Vince Friese (USA) - Stark Future

Jorge Zaragoza (Spain) - Stark Future

Colt Nichols (USA) - Pipes Motorsports Group (replacing Ken Roczen for the final rounds) 

 
SX2 (250cc) Championship Riders

Max Anstie (UK) - Team GSM

Coty Schock (USA) - Rick Ware Racing

Enzo Lopes (Brazil) - Rick Ware Racing

Shane McElrath (USA) - Quad Lock Honda

Cole Thompson (Canada) - Venum Bud Racing Kawasaki

Cullin Park (USA) - MotoConcepts Racing

Kyle Peters (USA) - Venum Bud Racing Kawasaki

Michael Hicks (USA) - Stark Future

Maxime Desprey (France) - Team GSM

Kyle Chisholm (USA) - Pipes Motorsports Group

Robbie Wageman (USA) - Pipes Motorsports Group

Lance Kobusch (USA) - Stark Future

Anthony Bourdon (France) - Quad Lock Honda

Noah Viney (Canada) - MotoConcepts Racing

Kelana Humphrey (USA) - Stark Future

Wilson Todd (Australia) - Quad Lock Honda 

Note: This event is the final round where the 2025 World Champions for both classes will be crowned. Specific South African wildcard riders for this event are typically announced closer to the race date. 
 
 
 
 

 
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It's so typical of WSX. You finally put on 3 really, really good events and then you fumble PR in a big way in not signing Kenny for the full series. I would also be pissed as a ticket holder in this scenario.
I guess it's too late now but if there is the slightest chance, call Kenny and give him what he wants so that he lines up in Stockholm and Cape Town.

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12/2/2025 7:08am Edited Date/Time 12/2/2025 7:10am
Motofinne wrote:
It's so typical of WSX. You finally put on 3 really, really good events and then you fumble PR in a big way in not signing...

It's so typical of WSX. You finally put on 3 really, really good events and then you fumble PR in a big way in not signing Kenny for the full series. I would also be pissed as a ticket holder in this scenario.
I guess it's too late now but if there is the slightest chance, call Kenny and give him what he wants so that he lines up in Stockholm and Cape Town.

The Australian WSX round was insanely good and that is just what they, the promoters of WSX needs in order to grow the support of the series.

Sadly, they have f##ked up big time. I'm so bummed for the Cape Town final.

What I don't understand is that they will be awarding a WORLD SUPERCROSS CHAMPIONSHIP to a rider who really will not deserve it. 

We all know Ken had a good points lead before they cut him off....how does that happen?

You want a legit world champion? Offer good race payouts and championship payouts and let everyone who wants to race race. 

The promoters choosing who can race is equivalent to match fixing...

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12/2/2025 7:13am

It’s an exhibition more than a championship. Everybody that is into SX knows this. Enjoy it for what it is.

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https://racerxonline.com/2025/12/01/roczen-im-riding-really-well-at-the-moment 

So, you're done with the series now. A little bit of controversy on why. Whatever you wanna say, I don't know. But you're done with the series now.
Yeah. Okay, the part that ticks me off a little bit, that's been set in stone for a long time, and then now it's being said that, you know, I even read something where it's like, “Roczen kicked out of WSX.” Now it's being put that way. It's been set for a long time [that he was not going to race the whole series] but nobody mentioned it.

Colt [Nichols] said it on my show. Colt said, “I'm filling in for Kenny at some point in World Supercross.”
Yeah. So, and I've talked about it for a while. I said, “I'm only doing a few a few a few,” but then it just still looked like I was supposed to go to all of them, and then I wasn't. I never said that.

Some of their social media was saying “He'll be there” like which is not cool, but I don't know if that's on purpose or just somebody mistaken, know. Yeah. Like maybe the person who runs a social media account doesn't really know.
Right. So, I've been talking about it. It's been set for a while and now I know that people are upset that I'm not going, but it's been [set that way] for a while. Yeah, I don't know.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
https://racerxonline.com/2025/12/01/roczen-im-riding-really-well-at-the-moment So, you're done with the series now. A little bit of controversy on why. Whatever you wanna say, I don't know. But you're done...

https://racerxonline.com/2025/12/01/roczen-im-riding-really-well-at-the-moment 

So, you're done with the series now. A little bit of controversy on why. Whatever you wanna say, I don't know. But you're done with the series now.
Yeah. Okay, the part that ticks me off a little bit, that's been set in stone for a long time, and then now it's being said that, you know, I even read something where it's like, “Roczen kicked out of WSX.” Now it's being put that way. It's been set for a long time [that he was not going to race the whole series] but nobody mentioned it.

Colt [Nichols] said it on my show. Colt said, “I'm filling in for Kenny at some point in World Supercross.”
Yeah. So, and I've talked about it for a while. I said, “I'm only doing a few a few a few,” but then it just still looked like I was supposed to go to all of them, and then I wasn't. I never said that.

Some of their social media was saying “He'll be there” like which is not cool, but I don't know if that's on purpose or just somebody mistaken, know. Yeah. Like maybe the person who runs a social media account doesn't really know.
Right. So, I've been talking about it. It's been set for a while and now I know that people are upset that I'm not going, but it's been [set that way] for a while. Yeah, I don't know.

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Some of their social media was saying “He'll be there” like which is not cool, but I don't know if that's on purpose or just somebody mistaken, know. Yeah. 

This really is the icing on the cake. As I posted, some guy asked last week  if Roczen will be there next to that Insta full Roczen promo clip, and the answer was a clear yes... 

 

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12/2/2025 9:17am
RaceFan wrote:

It’s an exhibition more than a championship. Everybody that is into SX knows this. Enjoy it for what it is.

What it is? It is the official FIM endorsed Supercross World Championship. And a scam. Everybody that is into SX knows this.

😉

 

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12/2/2025 9:48am
RaceFan wrote:

It’s an exhibition more than a championship. Everybody that is into SX knows this. Enjoy it for what it is.

RACING wrote:

What it is? It is the official FIM endorsed Supercross World Championship. And a scam. Everybody that is into SX knows this.

😉

 

Well then I got scammed and enjoyed every second of it. Tracks are good, racing is good. It’s just not an actual championship but it is a good night out watching SX.

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12/2/2025 10:57am

Allright, so it's called a World Championship but it's "just an exhibition", it's selling tickets by advertising over and over a racer that won't be there, no biggie. 

As long as you had a good time, everything's fine. I'm not so sure the Roczen fans who bought a ticket for SA will feel quite the same.

 

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12/2/2025 11:08am

Dishonesty, without doubt.

OwenJakes wrote:

Basically all your posts suck. Have you considered becoming a “read only” account?

And your posts are the holy grail of this forum? that was kind of a dick thing to say...What was the point?

I think they knew, and they avoided the official comment or addressing it because they wanted to use him for advertising with a chance they were hoping they could work something out. That would basically equate to dishonesty, wouldn't it? I mean if we are going to roast journalists for releasing info before confirmed, this is a whole other level.

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12/2/2025 1:39pm

As if WSX needed another reason to look like a joke. Their current points leader and previous "champion" can't even line up for all 5 rounds...

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12/2/2025 2:32pm

Dishonesty, without doubt.

OwenJakes wrote:

Basically all your posts suck. Have you considered becoming a “read only” account?

Jkawi wrote:
And your posts are the holy grail of this forum? that was kind of a dick thing to say...What was the point?I think they knew, and...

And your posts are the holy grail of this forum? that was kind of a dick thing to say...What was the point?

I think they knew, and they avoided the official comment or addressing it because they wanted to use him for advertising with a chance they were hoping they could work something out. That would basically equate to dishonesty, wouldn't it? I mean if we are going to roast journalists for releasing info before confirmed, this is a whole other level.

I never said a thing about me or my posts so I’m not sure what that’s about. 

What if they have an intern running the socials or something and they just didn’t understand? Pretty weird to think it’s a closed case level certainty that WSX as an organization is bamboozling individuals in the comments of their posts..

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I'm curious: What constitutes a "real" championship, if the WSX is a scam, or exhibition that produces a "champion" as opposed to a champion? It's not obvious to me what exactly the answer is, beyond some general sense of needing a legitimate sanctioning body (whatever "legitimate" means) and enough people to take it seriously (whatever "enough" means). Do missteps by the promoter delegitimize a championship? 

I don't have any real argument for this, but it just sort of seems to me that WSX exists in a sort of no man's land - pretty legitimate but not really quite all the way there yet. I may be completely off - this is just the general impression I get. 

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I never said a thing about me or my posts so I’m not sure what that’s about. What if they have an intern running the socials or...

I never said a thing about me or my posts so I’m not sure what that’s about. 

What if they have an intern running the socials or something and they just didn’t understand? Pretty weird to think it’s a closed case level certainty that WSX as an organization is bamboozling individuals in the comments of their posts..

They're full of BS and the series is a joke. Was the on track action good? Yes. However. The way it's promoted, the way it seems to work with riders being there, the way the series chose to be broadcast (streamed) is amateurish at best...

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