Prado drama continuing?

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10/10/2025 2:32pm
mx216 wrote:
There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really...

There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really an ailment when it comes to riding. Gets on the kawi and definitely  has struggles. Most definitely blames the bike and team for results and struggles associated. But. Had never been this way before.....proving innocence or guilt based on the situatio7n? I lean toward innocence based on track record. Could be wrong but man if there was ever an argument for you're only as good as your last race this is it. I worked with him but it was years ago when he was a kid. He was picky about the setup.  Good or bad he had clear idea of what he wanted. The team needs to facilitate that. Did they? Did they not? Whole truth probably won't come out. Truth is, you dont ever luck into multiple championships in any discipline and he has those. Not one, not two, not three, but 4. Guy can ride. As a former rider and a team mechanic it's not anyone's fault. Shit happens, didn't work out for anyone but to want to hang the guy seems incredibly excessive. 

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Absolutely, but publicly throwing his team and coworkers under the bus was shitty. He purposely tried not to qualify for a race and stated his bike/team...

Absolutely, but publicly throwing his team and coworkers under the bus was shitty. He purposely tried not to qualify for a race and stated his bike/team was inferior/unsafe, not cool at all.

agreed. He can hate the bike and that's fair. But to roll around and deliberately try to not qualify is next level BS. Could Kawi have...

agreed. He can hate the bike and that's fair. But to roll around and deliberately try to not qualify is next level BS. Could Kawi have done things differently/better? Perhaps. Does it any way excuse Jorge's behavior? No way.

Apparently the not qualifying, was because Monster refused even to discuss an early termination of contract. Kawi was fine with it, but not Monster. So what do you do? Stay 3y? Nope.

Monster wanting Josh Hill for Kawi second rider tells a lot. Them and Kawi seems to make an excellent couple.

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In most business settings, the terms of the deal and what really happened are not public. Say the least, wish each other well publicly and move...

In most business settings, the terms of the deal and what really happened are not public. Say the least, wish each other well publicly and move on. We are fortunate enough to have insiders (including Prado himself) actually come forward on social media on their issues. 
Despite being a 2x world champ, I don’t think he will just snap back to winning form after a year of struggling and his competition advancing. Especially in the US, SX, and these weird problems Sexton and Vialle were having. 

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Prado is a 4X world Champ

…not only that…he is the only rider to finish qualifying 43rd and still make the mains.  Another resume bullet point!

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10/10/2025 3:50pm
jaun wrote:

Where did $2m + for Prado's contract with Kawi come from? 

Seems excessive 

From what I've gathered on this forum is that he signed a $3 mil 3 year contract (base ?), so I would assume he got $1mil...

From what I've gathered on this forum is that he signed a $3 mil 3 year contract (base ?), so I would assume he got $1mil a year. That seems valid to me for a 2x world champ on the big bikes (4x including MX2) considering Jett is supposedly making about $2mil a year on his new contract

Seems right when AC's all-in package was $1.8M

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You know,Somewhere on here is a thread about "what bike have you rode once and hated so much you sold it?" Now imagine being [i]required[/i] to...

You know,

Somewhere on here is a thread about "what bike have you rode once and hated so much you sold it?" Now imagine being required to ride that bike.

It was a tough scenario all around. Kawasaki doesn't exactly have the reputation for being accommodating to their riders. Prado may have felt absolutely trapped, without any hope of making things better for three years. Even so, he should have had a shit fit behind the scenes but been a consummate pro in public. 

Man there's a big difference between someone buying a bike with their own hard earned money opposed to testing riding, deciding yourself you like it, and then getting PAID to represent the bike/brand. He didn't pay Kawi to ride the bike. They were paying him. Big difference. 

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10/10/2025 5:33pm
mx216 wrote:
There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really...

There is a alot of dumb shit in this thread. Let's look at facts. Multi time world champ on big bikes and little bikes. Never really an ailment when it comes to riding. Gets on the kawi and definitely  has struggles. Most definitely blames the bike and team for results and struggles associated. But. Had never been this way before.....proving innocence or guilt based on the situatio7n? I lean toward innocence based on track record. Could be wrong but man if there was ever an argument for you're only as good as your last race this is it. I worked with him but it was years ago when he was a kid. He was picky about the setup.  Good or bad he had clear idea of what he wanted. The team needs to facilitate that. Did they? Did they not? Whole truth probably won't come out. Truth is, you dont ever luck into multiple championships in any discipline and he has those. Not one, not two, not three, but 4. Guy can ride. As a former rider and a team mechanic it's not anyone's fault. Shit happens, didn't work out for anyone but to want to hang the guy seems incredibly excessive. 

Spoonguy wrote:
Absolutely, but publicly throwing his team and coworkers under the bus was shitty. He purposely tried not to qualify for a race and stated his bike/team...

Absolutely, but publicly throwing his team and coworkers under the bus was shitty. He purposely tried not to qualify for a race and stated his bike/team was inferior/unsafe, not cool at all.

agreed. He can hate the bike and that's fair. But to roll around and deliberately try to not qualify is next level BS. Could Kawi have...

agreed. He can hate the bike and that's fair. But to roll around and deliberately try to not qualify is next level BS. Could Kawi have done things differently/better? Perhaps. Does it any way excuse Jorge's behavior? No way.

100% gimmea2stroke. Sure KW might have messed up somewhat. But he signed the contract.. .

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jaun wrote:

Where did $2m + for Prado's contract with Kawi come from? 

Seems excessive 

I think AC said he was getting 1+ mill from Kawi, Prado signed as a world champ so maybe he was getting close to that?

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George Prada

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I first saw Prado take it to Herlings in one of his first MX2 races. Two 250, two 450 WC.   Everyone’s expectations were high, including his, for 2026.  Winning races he said, not just podiums  
I don’t understand how he can ride the bike before he signs, and be that far off. 

I think he was raised in the cocoon of KTM and MXGP. Knew tracks, competition and bike inside and out. Unlike top Euros before him (Kenny, Ferrandis notably), he couldn’t adapt to at least one of those but insists it was the bike. Time (and Sextons performance on Kawi and Prado’s on KTM) will tell. 

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10/11/2025 3:05am

Not saying it happens but I do wonder what would happen if he does much better on the KTM. Would he ever be (partly) forgiven on here? I have seen him ride in realtime all his European life and - don't think he will win against Jett - but certainly not getting passed by Guillod and Paturel, In GP's he would finish before them even if he drove sitting backwards on the bike. 

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10/11/2025 6:30am

Seems right when AC's all-in package was $1.8M

AC must've had a phenomenal manager.

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10/11/2025 8:26am

Seems right when AC's all-in package was $1.8M

davistld01 wrote:

AC must've had a phenomenal manager.

AC had phenomenal promise.

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10/11/2025 8:37am
davistld01 wrote:

Still in Fox gear?

Did Fox have a problem with him?

They didn’t have a problem with him but it is heavily rumored the Fox deal was lumped into the Kawi deal so he will most likely be in different gear next year. 

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10/11/2025 8:53am

Hope he can turn things around on the bike but I don’t know if he can fix his image at this point unless he just comes out and apologizes. 

Mitch said it best…


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10/11/2025 11:09am Edited Date/Time 10/11/2025 11:10am
Hope he can turn things around on the bike but I don’t know if he can fix his image at this point unless he just comes...

Hope he can turn things around on the bike but I don’t know if he can fix his image at this point unless he just comes out and apologizes. 

Mitch said it best…


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He needs to own it. Say he didn't gel with the bike, and that he screwed up, and should have handled it differently.  A sincere apology, and owning it will go a long way with the fans, and the industry.  If he doesn't, he's going to pay a price for the rest of his career, and maybe in whatever he does after MX.

Since his contracts are resolved with Kawi and Monster, it's not going to cost him $millions, or lawsuits.  He can speak about it openly, and put it to rest.

NOW is the very best time.

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Will we ever know how the contract issue was resolved?  Did KTM buy it out? Did Prado buy it out?  Did Kawi cave and just let him go? 

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you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now i’ll give the 4 time world champion the benefit of the doubt for wanting to do anything but stay at the kawi especially when kawasaki is well known for not deviating from their own developed settings, hence the reason tomac left and i would assume JA left… if i was chase i would be very apprehensive about what he has gotten himself into over there! 

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10/11/2025 1:35pm Edited Date/Time 10/11/2025 1:37pm
bvm111 wrote:
you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now...

you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now i’ll give the 4 time world champion the benefit of the doubt for wanting to do anything but stay at the kawi especially when kawasaki is well known for not deviating from their own developed settings, hence the reason tomac left and i would assume JA left… if i was chase i would be very apprehensive about what he has gotten himself into over there! 

Maybe, but we all sure as hell saw him quit multiple times during the year. I DGAF about ANYTHING else that happened: quitting is unacceptable, period. He needs to do what Radical said, then put in an off-season of prep, and kill it next year. Then I might become a fan again, but he's lost me at this point. I'll root for other riders that give it 100% every time the gate drops. 

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10/11/2025 2:04pm
bvm111 wrote:
you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now...

you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now i’ll give the 4 time world champion the benefit of the doubt for wanting to do anything but stay at the kawi especially when kawasaki is well known for not deviating from their own developed settings, hence the reason tomac left and i would assume JA left… if i was chase i would be very apprehensive about what he has gotten himself into over there! 

Maybe, but we all sure as hell saw him quit multiple times during the year. I DGAF about ANYTHING else that happened: quitting is unacceptable, period...

Maybe, but we all sure as hell saw him quit multiple times during the year. I DGAF about ANYTHING else that happened: quitting is unacceptable, period. He needs to do what Radical said, then put in an off-season of prep, and kill it next year. Then I might become a fan again, but he's lost me at this point. I'll root for other riders that give it 100% every time the gate drops. 

Instead of thinking he quit, think he didn’t like his new job and gave 2 week notice. 

Would you bust ass at work if you have your 2 week notice?

Be honest in your answer, knowing to Prado it’s an occupation to him, not some bad ass Factory Kawasaki Contract that you perceive it as. 

Prado been under factory contract since youth. It’s a job. 

 

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10/11/2025 3:45pm Edited Date/Time 10/11/2025 3:49pm

He knew it was hopeless, no point to risk 2026 for nothing or a injury. The ”quitting” just made the point chrystal clear that he was not at all interrested in staying and test to prepare for 2026 on that machine. It was not a great look or ending but whatever.

Some of the vitards were ever gonna be happy until he broke an arm, a leg or his fkn neck! Then its all right because he actually tryed! 

Good luck on the steel frame JP, and good luck to Chase! 🙈

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10/11/2025 3:53pm
Instead of thinking he quit, think he didn’t like his new job and gave 2 week notice. Would you bust ass at work if you have your...

Instead of thinking he quit, think he didn’t like his new job and gave 2 week notice. 

Would you bust ass at work if you have your 2 week notice?

Be honest in your answer, knowing to Prado it’s an occupation to him, not some bad ass Factory Kawasaki Contract that you perceive it as. 

Prado been under factory contract since youth. It’s a job. 

 

He got the privilege of trying out the "new job" before taking it.

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10/11/2025 4:05pm
Instead of thinking he quit, think he didn’t like his new job and gave 2 week notice. Would you bust ass at work if you have your...

Instead of thinking he quit, think he didn’t like his new job and gave 2 week notice. 

Would you bust ass at work if you have your 2 week notice?

Be honest in your answer, knowing to Prado it’s an occupation to him, not some bad ass Factory Kawasaki Contract that you perceive it as. 

Prado been under factory contract since youth. It’s a job. 

 

He got the privilege of trying out the "new job" before taking it.

Weak weak answer. 

Like we all haven’t took a job after interviews only to find the manager and employees or some other factor made the job suck than originally thought. 
 

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10/11/2025 4:16pm
bvm111 wrote:
you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now...

you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now i’ll give the 4 time world champion the benefit of the doubt for wanting to do anything but stay at the kawi especially when kawasaki is well known for not deviating from their own developed settings, hence the reason tomac left and i would assume JA left… if i was chase i would be very apprehensive about what he has gotten himself into over there! 

Pretty sure Tomac and Anderson won races on Kawasakis. Kawasaki has been winning in this country since Desoto. Maybe Kawasaki is not fulfilling all needs, but every 450 rider of note has won with them, maybe not Milsaps? I don't know, isn't part of a riders job is to project what he needs in set up?

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There’s a reason this thread has gone 20 pages, but I’m not quite sure why. I’m an old head and longtime mx fan, and I don’t think I can remember a time when fans took the side of the factory over the racer when it came to disputes like this.

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bvm111 wrote:
you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now...

you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now i’ll give the 4 time world champion the benefit of the doubt for wanting to do anything but stay at the kawi especially when kawasaki is well known for not deviating from their own developed settings, hence the reason tomac left and i would assume JA left… if i was chase i would be very apprehensive about what he has gotten himself into over there! 

Spoonguy wrote:
Pretty sure Tomac and Anderson won races on Kawasakis. Kawasaki has been winning in this country since Desoto. Maybe Kawasaki is not fulfilling all needs, but...

Pretty sure Tomac and Anderson won races on Kawasakis. Kawasaki has been winning in this country since Desoto. Maybe Kawasaki is not fulfilling all needs, but every 450 rider of note has won with them, maybe not Milsaps? I don't know, isn't part of a riders job is to project what he needs in set up?

Hey Millsaps did win Monster Cup and 100k on the Kawi lol 

10/11/2025 4:44pm

Kawi is a shitbox. Prado is going to be right there with Jett/Eli/Chase/Hunter next year and everybody talking shit this year is going to look dumb. He floundered and did everything he possibly could to get off that bike. 
KTM is going to have a powerhouse next year.

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Not saying it happens but I do wonder what would happen if he does much better on the KTM. Would he ever be (partly) forgiven on...

Not saying it happens but I do wonder what would happen if he does much better on the KTM. Would he ever be (partly) forgiven on here? I have seen him ride in realtime all his European life and - don't think he will win against Jett - but certainly not getting passed by Guillod and Paturel, In GP's he would finish before them even if he drove sitting backwards on the bike. 

I mean there is no chance he doesn't do better, all he has to do is put in a tiny bit of effort and he will be better. Which would be a lot more effort than he afforded his previous employer 

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bvm111 wrote:
you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now...

you guys know nothing about what happened behind the scenes and who quit whom or didn’t hold up to their end of the contract, right now i’ll give the 4 time world champion the benefit of the doubt for wanting to do anything but stay at the kawi especially when kawasaki is well known for not deviating from their own developed settings, hence the reason tomac left and i would assume JA left… if i was chase i would be very apprehensive about what he has gotten himself into over there! 

Spoonguy wrote:
Pretty sure Tomac and Anderson won races on Kawasakis. Kawasaki has been winning in this country since Desoto. Maybe Kawasaki is not fulfilling all needs, but...

Pretty sure Tomac and Anderson won races on Kawasakis. Kawasaki has been winning in this country since Desoto. Maybe Kawasaki is not fulfilling all needs, but every 450 rider of note has won with them, maybe not Milsaps? I don't know, isn't part of a riders job is to project what he needs in set up?

ohh_454 wrote:

Hey Millsaps did win Monster Cup and 100k on the Kawi lol 

No doubt, I think Davi went into the deal regretfully with injuries, burnout, and family troubles that showed. Ending with the locker incident. Shame, his training of JuJu is reinvigorating his standing in the sport.

10/11/2025 5:04pm
Weak weak answer. Like we all haven’t took a job after interviews only to find the manager and employees or some other factor made the job suck...

Weak weak answer. 

Like we all haven’t took a job after interviews only to find the manager and employees or some other factor made the job suck than originally thought. 
 

He rode the god damn bike before signing . He thought his accolades from Europe were a guaranteed championship in the states.  Once he realized he wasnt even in the ball park in the speed department, he blamed everything and everyone but himself.

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