MXON vs Ironman 2025 Tracks

surfrider47
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Does anyone know the differences in track layout between the two races?

Are they the same track?


Thank you

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aeffertz
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9/26/2025 5:32pm Edited Date/Time 9/26/2025 5:32pm

Does anyone know the differences in track layout between the two races?

Are they the same track?


Thank you

Same as this year’s national. AKA neutered. 

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NorCal1975
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9/26/2025 6:51pm

National track was kind of lame this year, disappointing

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They definitely had time to fix it.

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SLAPAHO
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MXoN track design hasn’t been released yet. 
Supposedly a bit different from the nat track.  
Hopefully 🤞 

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9/26/2025 7:13pm
SLAPAHO wrote:

MXoN track design hasn’t been released yet. 
Supposedly a bit different from the nat track.  
Hopefully 🤞 

Hopefully “different” means they put Godzilla back…

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Still working on it.

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9/26/2025 8:56pm

Are those the fall over forward gates that we had at the national or did they swap them?

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9/27/2025 4:47am

The unpopular changes that were made to the National track this year were made to accommodate all the additional VIP areas that were sold for MXdN.

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9/27/2025 8:50am

The unpopular changes that were made to the National track this year were made to accommodate all the additional VIP areas that were sold for MXdN.

I would love to see InFront’s books after this. Tickets sales alone have got to be somewhere around $20mil. Then add in all the VIP packages. I’m guessing parking goes to the track owner but I could be wrong there. 

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9/27/2025 8:57am
aeffertz wrote:

Same as this year’s national. AKA neutered. 

Yup, they cut the balls off...

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9/27/2025 8:59am
SLAPAHO wrote:

MXoN track design hasn’t been released yet. 
Supposedly a bit different from the nat track.  
Hopefully 🤞 

Certainly different with all the good shit removed to pacify the boss from the FIM.

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9/27/2025 9:03am Edited Date/Time 9/27/2025 9:04am

The only change I didn’t like was the Godzilla removal. But I liked the rest of the changes, it was time, the rest was getting old.

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I liked the Natty track for most part...BUTT!  could not really see much of what was going on in that new woods section and did not look like but a few people back there watching.  VIP tents hogged the hilltops also Not a fan of that crap. 

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9/30/2025 3:31am
jarvinator wrote:
I liked the Natty track for most part...BUTT!  could not really see much of what was going on in that new woods section and did not...

I liked the Natty track for most part...BUTT!  could not really see much of what was going on in that new woods section and did not look like but a few people back there watching.  VIP tents hogged the hilltops also Not a fan of that crap. 

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Maybe I`m stupid, but what`s the difference?
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10/2/2025 12:18pm Edited Date/Time 10/2/2025 12:19pm

The unpopular changes that were made to the National track this year were made to accommodate all the additional VIP areas that were sold for MXdN.

TheMilkman wrote:
I would love to see InFront’s books after this. Tickets sales alone have got to be somewhere around $20mil. Then add in all the VIP packages...

I would love to see InFront’s books after this. Tickets sales alone have got to be somewhere around $20mil. Then add in all the VIP packages. I’m guessing parking goes to the track owner but I could be wrong there. 

VIP pricing is determined by local organizer. So the super inflated prices compared to last year is purely Ironman (or Mx-sports) fault, if they are involved.

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10/2/2025 12:46pm
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davis224 wrote:

Looks more like 35-45 to me

yeah, i'd much rather see a gay twisting woods section than a couple big fuckin' booters

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10/2/2025 12:54pm Edited Date/Time 10/2/2025 1:01pm
VHM wrote:
Maybe I`m stupid, but what`s the difference?

Maybe I`m stupid, but what`s the difference?
Skjermbilde 2025-10-02 181258

I think they must mean from the old layout, not the new layout they raced this year which already had the MXoN alterations. This is how it used to be.

MX Simulator - 2020 Ride365.com Nationals Rd. 10 - Ironman

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davis224 wrote:

Looks more like 35-45 to me

peelout wrote:

yeah, i'd much rather see a gay twisting woods section than a couple big fuckin' booters

Don't let them convince you we can't have both!

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10/2/2025 1:19pm Edited Date/Time 10/2/2025 1:21pm

Did a Quick Look and its looking good.

We are off of Mike Larocco St

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Maybe I`m stupid, but what`s the difference?

Maybe I`m stupid, but what`s the difference?
Skjermbilde 2025-10-02 181258

aeffertz wrote:
I think they must mean from the old layout, not the new layout they raced this year which already had the MXoN alterations. This is how...

I think they must mean from the old layout, not the new layout they raced this year which already had the MXoN alterations. This is how it used to be.

MX Simulator - 2020 Ride365.com Nationals Rd. 10 - Ironman

Now I remember the old layout! I thought they had made some changes just recently. Looks like they moved the start in 2024. 

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NOTE …… IF you have a VIP ticket they can NOT be picked up at the track.

You have to go in town to pick them up.

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10/2/2025 2:38pm
lumpy790 wrote:

NOTE …… IF you have a VIP ticket they can NOT be picked up at the track.

You have to go in town to pick them up.

That’s insane to me, you buy a vip ticket thinking you will be able to pick it up at the track, only to find out you have to pick it up in town, after you’ve probably waited in line for hours to get through security.(i’m not attending so i’m not sure, just guessing based on how i’ve seen sx and mx)

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lumpy790 wrote:

NOTE …… IF you have a VIP ticket they can NOT be picked up at the track.

You have to go in town to pick them up.

Where at in town do you pick them up at?  I didn't see anything about it in the email they have sent

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lumpy790 wrote:

NOTE …… IF you have a VIP ticket they can NOT be picked up at the track.

You have to go in town to pick them up.

spd721 wrote:

Where at in town do you pick them up at?  I didn't see anything about it in the email they have sent

This is probably late, but the VIP welcome center is located at the National Guard Armory. The address was included in the email I received earlier this week. Just in case anyone else missed it.

Welcome office location: Army National Guard Armory, 1405 Washington St, Crawfordsville, IN 47933, United States

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Porta-potty construction nearly complete.

 

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