Team USA is Tomac, Deegan, and...

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Is Vialle not a GP guy or am I missing something

CPR wrote:

You’re missing Langenfelder, de Wolf,  Adamo, Coenen…….

Mavetism wrote:
As much as I dislike Deegans persona, I don't think anyone has anything for that guy except on the sand tracks. And that is with GP...

As much as I dislike Deegans persona, I don't think anyone has anything for that guy except on the sand tracks. And that is with GP guys having the whole winter prepping for MX. De Wolf and Lucas last year I would have put on the same level, but De Wolf seemed really off this year. I'm german that's why I'm super pumped for Simon obviously but I also think he wouldn't stand a chance if De Wolf rode like last year..

Though at MXON anything can happen, specially with Deegan not coming in at 100%. 

Also the Vialle we saw in the the US isn't the same guy we saw in MXGP. He rides outdoors completely different with only having a couple weeks of actual MX testing in the US. (Which is the same for everyone in the US obviously, but some adapt better than others). He's missing the intensity and confidence he had over here and I also think his goal was mainly SX aswell. Ernee 2023 MXON is the last time we saw the actual Vialle imo. Maybe I'm completely delusional, but that's how I see it.

I agree with a lot of that, especially perplexed at de Wolf not being as good as last year and Vialle not being the same guy in the US. 
I just think some of the GP guys, if they turn up In their best form, will give Deegan a decent run and he won’t have it as easy as in AMA. And absolutely anything can, and usually does happen at MXdN, that’s why it’s the best race of the year.

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Deegan is fortunate that the race is held in USA. I'm sure he will get some shit from the fans but imagine if the event would be held at one of the big traditional European countries? 

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LEAVE IT TO THE AMA TO FUCK ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING UP, FUCK#38 AND THEIR WHOLE SHITSHOW. HE'S TOO GOOD TO RIDE LAST 2X NOW WANTS TO...

LEAVE IT TO THE AMA TO FUCK ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING UP, FUCK#38 AND THEIR WHOLE SHITSHOW. HE'S TOO GOOD TO RIDE LAST 2X NOW WANTS TO TRY TO MAKE AMMENDS.

The question is, WWJD? 

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9/26/2025 5:48am

Id laugh if Jo cleaned 38 out on his 450.

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9/26/2025 6:08am
Anyone saying cooper over haiden on the 250 is delusional haiden is the best 250 rider in the world…. Cooper over rj though too cooper has...

Anyone saying cooper over haiden on the 250 is delusional haiden is the best 250 rider in the world…. Cooper over rj though too cooper has stepped up numerous times even though they are both great lets hope USA does it this year!!

I’d rather get 2nd with cooper than 1st with Deegan. 

I hope team USA puts the number one plate with Deegan right next to your participation trophy at chicken licks raceway.

That was a knee slapper. Good one. 

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He's rippin and ready

 

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9/26/2025 6:23am Edited Date/Time 9/26/2025 6:24am
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Remember Jo was over this the second he crossed the finish line. Yet, a week later the same handful of 50 year old nobodies in this echo chamber are still emotionally affected by the event and spewing their shit, inciting violence against a 19 year old. @ML512 needs to clean his forum up.

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Frd03 wrote:
Remember Jo was over this the second he crossed the finish line. Yet, a week later the same handful of 50 year old nobodies in this...

Remember Jo was over this the second he crossed the finish line. Yet, a week later the same handful of 50 year old nobodies in this echo chamber are still emotionally affected by the event and spewing their shit, inciting violence against a 19 year old. @ML512 needs to clean his forum up.

There’s a saying, bitching about people bitching makes you a… I’m sure you can fill in the last part.

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9/26/2025 6:43am

I cant believe deegan is gonns ride to save his ego.  More then likely he wont finish or finish strong and cost the USA.   

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9/26/2025 6:46am Edited Date/Time 9/26/2025 6:52am

I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...    Good grief, this place is getting worse than social media full of misguided teens and trolls.

Go watch the race and come back and tell me why the top dog from Europe should not be racing MXoN either (by your own logic).  I think Deegan is in left field too, but he is quite literally living rent free in your heads.  This isn't political, nobody running the free world here, just a niche sport..  

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I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...

I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...    Good grief, this place is getting worse than social media full of misguided teens and trolls.

Go watch the race and come back and tell me why the top dog from Europe should not be racing MXoN either (by your own logic).  I think Deegan is in left field too, but he is quite literally living rent free in your heads.  This isn't political, nobody running the free world here, just a niche sport..  

Man you are spot on here. 

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9/26/2025 6:52am

Deegan will be on top-notch doctor-prescribed painkillers/ muscle relaxants, so he won't even notice this collarbone. 

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9/26/2025 7:08am

So what side did MrBigHead get worked on the left or right?

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Motofinne wrote:
Deegan is fortunate that the race is held in USA. I'm sure he will get some shit from the fans but imagine if the event would...

Deegan is fortunate that the race is held in USA. I'm sure he will get some shit from the fans but imagine if the event would be held at one of the big traditional European countries? 

He would have ducked the race like last year if it was in Europe

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TAUTOG wrote:

He's rippin and ready

 

Not enough over rev bro

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9/26/2025 7:45am

I can't imagine the pressure on RJ being picked over someone that helped win it last time when Cooper came in as the underdog.

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I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...

I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...    Good grief, this place is getting worse than social media full of misguided teens and trolls.

Go watch the race and come back and tell me why the top dog from Europe should not be racing MXoN either (by your own logic).  I think Deegan is in left field too, but he is quite literally living rent free in your heads.  This isn't political, nobody running the free world here, just a niche sport..  

I think a lot of us can put aside his antics and be fine with him if he was healthy. You truly believe he’s going to be 💯 next week? My concern is he’s able to do one moto at 80% which is probably close to most at 💯 but then isn’t able to gut out the second that is going to be back to back with minimal recovery time between motos

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I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...

I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...    Good grief, this place is getting worse than social media full of misguided teens and trolls.

Go watch the race and come back and tell me why the top dog from Europe should not be racing MXoN either (by your own logic).  I think Deegan is in left field too, but he is quite literally living rent free in your heads.  This isn't political, nobody running the free world here, just a niche sport..  

yak651 wrote:
I think a lot of us can put aside his antics and be fine with him if he was healthy. You truly believe he’s going to...

I think a lot of us can put aside his antics and be fine with him if he was healthy. You truly believe he’s going to be 💯 next week? My concern is he’s able to do one moto at 80% which is probably close to most at 💯 but then isn’t able to gut out the second that is going to be back to back with minimal recovery time between motos

No doubt, a 100% JCoop is significantly better than 80% Deegan.  Add on JCoop’s experience and previous performance, he’s the better choice for sure.

What we don’t know is what Deegan has in the tank.  This could turn out just fine, but it could also be a train wreck.  

I’m still Team USA, regardless.

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9/26/2025 8:17am

Granted it was flattrack but i did the Peoria TT a week and a half after mine once and it didn't bother me much at all compared to regular healing the other times.

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I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...

I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...    Good grief, this place is getting worse than social media full of misguided teens and trolls.

Go watch the race and come back and tell me why the top dog from Europe should not be racing MXoN either (by your own logic).  I think Deegan is in left field too, but he is quite literally living rent free in your heads.  This isn't political, nobody running the free world here, just a niche sport..  

yak651 wrote:
I think a lot of us can put aside his antics and be fine with him if he was healthy. You truly believe he’s going to...

I think a lot of us can put aside his antics and be fine with him if he was healthy. You truly believe he’s going to be 💯 next week? My concern is he’s able to do one moto at 80% which is probably close to most at 💯 but then isn’t able to gut out the second that is going to be back to back with minimal recovery time between motos

Who knows really.  We have seen people come back from collarbone break/plate and race 2 weeks later like they never missed a beat.  He is throwing his own neck out there by still waving his arms to race for team USA like this, I do believe there is *not* a chance he will race like it's the last race of the year for big $, I think he will throw everything he has at it (like him or not) but not like a goon.  But for him to continue on and put Jcoop as an alternate at this point, he better ride like his 'usual self', everyone is going to be watching and obviously expectations are high.

We have been waiting for 3 years to him give this a go, time to shine.

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I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...

I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...    Good grief, this place is getting worse than social media full of misguided teens and trolls.

Go watch the race and come back and tell me why the top dog from Europe should not be racing MXoN either (by your own logic).  I think Deegan is in left field too, but he is quite literally living rent free in your heads.  This isn't political, nobody running the free world here, just a niche sport..  

I was always taught to win with grace and lose with grace. Deegan does neither, that is part of why I don't care for his antics. As far as Kay De Wolf, he isn't representing the USA so what he did at the last round, was dirty but is not of reflection on the USA. So I do not want Deegan representing the USA. I will still be cheering our team on.

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Swap reported that they are having them ride together on Monday and then make the final decision....

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mgifracing wrote:
Granted it was flattrack but i did the Peoria TT a week and a half after mine once and it didn't bother me much at all...

Granted it was flattrack but i did the Peoria TT a week and a half after mine once and it didn't bother me much at all compared to regular healing the other times.

Be honest with the folks Gif...you are crazy.🙃

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9/26/2025 8:44am

First, I can't fault him for trying.  And . . . 

People have in the last week complained he used this as an excuse to bail again.  When it's clear he was going to try, now he doesn't deserve to go and is going to drag the team down.  No doubt he's brought some of this on himself, but he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't (I don't think anything really changes the diehard fans and haters' takes).  

No second guessing after the fact, though; if he goes forward and Cooper doesn't take his place no one can recreate any alternative reality, good or bad, imagining had Deegan stepped down.  People will just backfill that imagination with whatever bias they have now.

Admire Deegan's talent; not a fan of the schtick, not a fan of him punking on other riders.  One thing for sure, though: if you punk on other riders there are a lot more riders to punk you back when the opportunity is there.    

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9/26/2025 9:19am
I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...

I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...    Good grief, this place is getting worse than social media full of misguided teens and trolls.

Go watch the race and come back and tell me why the top dog from Europe should not be racing MXoN either (by your own logic).  I think Deegan is in left field too, but he is quite literally living rent free in your heads.  This isn't political, nobody running the free world here, just a niche sport..  

Big difference between the two....

Kay's last name isn't Deegan.

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9/26/2025 11:54am
I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...

I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...    Good grief, this place is getting worse than social media full of misguided teens and trolls.

Go watch the race and come back and tell me why the top dog from Europe should not be racing MXoN either (by your own logic).  I think Deegan is in left field too, but he is quite literally living rent free in your heads.  This isn't political, nobody running the free world here, just a niche sport..  

yak651 wrote:
I think a lot of us can put aside his antics and be fine with him if he was healthy. You truly believe he’s going to...

I think a lot of us can put aside his antics and be fine with him if he was healthy. You truly believe he’s going to be 💯 next week? My concern is he’s able to do one moto at 80% which is probably close to most at 💯 but then isn’t able to gut out the second that is going to be back to back with minimal recovery time between motos

it seems he may be trying to salvage his negative image by trying to be a hero.  We will see if it backfires.  J coop may be faster then deagen anyway.  So hard to compare 250/450.  

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9/26/2025 12:01pm
DonM wrote:

Swap reported that they are having them ride together on Monday and then make the final decision....

🎯

 

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9/26/2025 12:37pm
I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...

I am pretty sure none of you 'core' moto fans bitching about how stupid HD38 rode in Vegas have watched the last MX2 round in Australia...    Good grief, this place is getting worse than social media full of misguided teens and trolls.

Go watch the race and come back and tell me why the top dog from Europe should not be racing MXoN either (by your own logic).  I think Deegan is in left field too, but he is quite literally living rent free in your heads.  This isn't political, nobody running the free world here, just a niche sport..  

vdrsnk04 wrote:

Man you are spot on here. 

So what happened in Oz is okay? Two wrongs make a right?

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9/26/2025 12:47pm
Farmer J wrote:

Should i put a spot on my bingo card for DNGR takes out teammate? Remember there's no such thing as a teammate in his eyes. 

Let it go Bro....

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9/26/2025 3:22pm Edited Date/Time 9/26/2025 3:23pm
shortty761 wrote:

I know more and have seen more in the industry than you’ve ever dreamed of buddy.

I think we all know... that's an over exaggeration of the "industry" view you have from your sister's basement. 

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