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Renthal Twinwall 997 according to Renthal post, but I think the bend you see in the pictures is too low for a 997, IMHO it's a Twinwall 996. The 996 has pretty much the same bend as the Fatbar 827 he used during the SX season.
Renthal post https://www.instagram.com/p/DKUbARagKtH/?img_index=4 (images 4 & 8)
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827 vs. 996
https://www.renthal.com/worksfit/
Herlings with 997
More interesting is that the picture shows he is running the AER fork?
There was a fire drill of sorts to obtain enough of these special Renthal Twin Wall handlebars that AP switched to just before the start of the nationals. In addition to being a new bend for the popular rider, the crossbar of the handlebar features a retractable/extendable section beneath the pad, as well as bearings in the crossbar clamps. The system allows the Twin Wall to flex like a crossbar-free handlebar.
After relistening…. I do think it’s a Twinwall with a modified crossbar. Though depending on which statement you use it could be anything.
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Probably the same concept as the Pro Taper Fuzion bars, just has a setup that lets the two halves of the cross bar slide in and out of a section so it doesn't actually do anything.
Heard the interview and it does not correlate with what I see on his bike. I’ll trust my eyes more than every word from AP. I love the guy but when asked why he didn’t run the scoop his response was “brother I didn’t even think about.” I think AP is limited on what he can say because he is running a cut crossbar or he is confused about what’s on his bike. It is 100% a Twinwall bar and not a Fat Bar.
That sounds like Steve was trying to explain on his show earlier this week as well.
Also, I didn’t know you were on here Chas. What up!?
I think AP probably uses the "IDK man, I just ride the bike" thing to his advantage in cases like these. He can play the dumb blonde/ignorant card and not answer the question just b/c he knows that's how some people view his personality. Also, I'm sure some of it is ignorance, but I've gotta assume he's more in-the-know than people give him credit for these days.
From PitBits, these are 100% Twinwalls.
This is the exact bar i run on my YZ250F. I run the regular pro taper 1 1/8" fatty on my 150
"It's fatter than a 7/8" bar = it's a Fatbar" <AP's probable logic.
I agree that the images shown above are 100% a Renthal Twinwall. However, the idea of a Fatbar with an added crossbar is an intriguing idea... if the crossbrace would clamp securely enough (who knows what the taper is like at that particular spot on a Fatbar,) then it might make for a happy medium in stiffness between a Twinwall and no crossbar at all.
There is an interview from a from a podcast with a Renthal representative (may have been Perebijnos but cant remember exactly) that stated that it was OK to cut the crossbar from a structural perspective, and documented that many pros have done so.
I myself have done so in the past and all I do is cut the middle of the crossbar and slide a small 1-2" section of copper sleeve and electrical tape both ends. Doing it this way allows the crossbar pad to have some integrity and also allow the bar to flex much more than if the crossbar was intact. This also prevents possibility of impalement which I am sure is a concern to Renthal's legal team.
I completely forgot that those Renthals even existed. I don’t know anyone who’s ever owned them.
At the end of the century, french company AFAM produced the Flex, on which the crossbar was replaced by some kind of leaf spring. Quite simple and creative idea...
Never really felt if it was less rigid than something else, but it was probably the strongest 22mm I've ever seen: I still have one today on one of my bikes.
AP is also notorious for not knowing what’s on his bike. He could of been saying fat bar meaning it’s not a 7/8” bar.
In that same interview he said he don’t know he just likes how it looks.
Yea they never caught on, do they even still make them?
I have been given a bunch of hand me down parts from JGR mx thru the years and have a cut crossbar from around the 2010 time frame. I have some brakes and triple clamps from Brayton's bike so it may have been his. They cut the crossbar in half and trapped it inside another shorter tube so it could telescope.
What’s the advantage to keeping a cut crossbar on the bike, vs just taking it off? Appearance? Running a standard crossbar pad is the only thing that makes sense, as long as you do something to fix the impalement hazard like several people have mentioned before. A sleeve is solid thinking..
Sounds like a new telescopic crossbar twin wall being developed. The TeleTwinWall!
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Cutting and trapping it in another tube keeps the crossbar pad in place which some guys like visually. It allows more flex when pressing down on the bars but should keep some of the flex if the bars try to move up which I don’t think is a common loading situation for bars. Maybe in a wreck it reduces the chance of bar damage a little bit I think the cut and put inside a tube is just so the bar pad stays in place.
Both here and in Europe according to ML512
So basically, they told him "it's a custom bar", but it's really a TwinWall? Is that the verdict?
Or he knows it’s a cut twinwall and he just doesn’t want to say that.
@ML512, could you please take a look under the bar pad at the next race? 😇
Its the Fatbar 36 and yes they still make them.
Steve corrected the record in the Blair/Matthes pod. It is a Twinwall with a floating crossbar. Thank you Steve.
“Floating” crossbar. Is it magically floating there or cut?
It’s magic man!
His word, not mine. I’m sure it translates to cut.
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