Webb Out for Outdoors?

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mattyhamz2 wrote:
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him have a wrist injury of some sort between SLC and Pala. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him be...

I wouldn’t be surprised to see him have a wrist injury of some sort between SLC and Pala. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him be at a few rounds of nationals before pulling out with a lingering injury. I also wouldn’t be surprised to see him do all 11 rounds with mediocre results and maybe a flash or two of decent results. 

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I think Webb IS an opportunist.  He's highly skilled, and when he's feeling it, and he's in the battle, he's highly focused.  I could see him...

I think Webb IS an opportunist.  He's highly skilled, and when he's feeling it, and he's in the battle, he's highly focused.  

I could see him doing all 11 rounds if he's got a shot at the title.  If not, I expect his focus to wain as it often does, and shift toward SX next year.  Make no mistake, though, he can rise to the level of outdoor risk and competition if he's motivated.  An outdoor 450 title would put him is rare air if he wraps up this SX title as expected.

The only way Cooper Webb is getting an outdoor 450 title is if Jett, Tomac, Sexton, Prado, Hunter, JCoop, Ferrandis, AP and Anderson don't show up. 

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Did Christian Craig announce he was riding outdoors this year...? I believe he made some sort of announcement last week. -timing of that announcment.-timing of this Webb...

Did Christian Craig announce he was riding outdoors this year...? I believe he made some sort of announcement last week. 


-timing of that announcment.

-timing of this Webb outdoor news.

-Easy transition to the next semi over to fill in (assuming they need to fill the spot...they have #3 and #32).

Connecting dots and wearing my tinfoil hat.

Craig is SX only. He’ll still be working for the team and be a fill in if someone gets injured. 

ohh_454 wrote:
I thought his deal included mx too, I don’t remember seeing ever announced as sx only. Media outlets were also saying they heard he was getting...

I thought his deal included mx too, I don’t remember seeing ever announced as sx only. Media outlets were also saying they heard he was getting benched for outdoors so that seems like his deal included mx, at least that’s how I interpreted it. 

Meanwhile his best 450 results were outdoors, on the Star racing after claiming his championship. He was riding really well that outdoor season

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5/6/2025 11:20pm
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JT is so afraid of offending someone/anyone with his speech that it actually reduces his credibility. I really tune him out now just about anytime he's...

JT is so afraid of offending someone/anyone with his speech that it actually reduces his credibility. I really tune him out now just about anytime he's on. I think Webb does do all outdoors pretty much no matter what simply to shrug off the pending reputation he's an SX opportunist. 

Yeah he sure does. Would have been unreal as Mr Burns’ lichenspittle smithers.

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I hope he is all good, I know he was sick in denver but chase directly hit his boot with his fork pretty hard so im hoping part of his fading has nothing to do with his leg

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5/6/2025 11:42pm
CPan wrote:

Doesn’t really matter. Webb is a non factor outdoors. 

agn5008 wrote:

Everyone in the top 40 matters. They’re all fast as hell. 

Without them it's a lame show.

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I expect a practice injury before the nationals even start, race a few rounds to stay in the top 20 for SMX. Come back for SMX…

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Boggins wrote:

Why race all summer for a 4th or 5th place result?  Rest up, defend SX '26.

Well, using Webbs own words from a couple of years back: He gets paid to race so he race. 

that’s why he should race for any position on the gate. 

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It is shocking to me how many telepaths there are in VitalMX. It is also shocking to me that they expend their remarkable skills on finding out what motorcycle racers are thinking of rather than movers and shakers on Wall Street.

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Webb is a racer, if he can race he’ll race

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It was mentioned on Pulp that Webb wants the SMX title so it makes sense that he would race as many Nationals as possible to head into SMX with a points lead or at least in the top 2.

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5/7/2025 5:50am
Did Christian Craig announce he was riding outdoors this year...? I believe he made some sort of announcement last week. -timing of that announcment.-timing of this Webb...

Did Christian Craig announce he was riding outdoors this year...? I believe he made some sort of announcement last week. 


-timing of that announcment.

-timing of this Webb outdoor news.

-Easy transition to the next semi over to fill in (assuming they need to fill the spot...they have #3 and #32).

Connecting dots and wearing my tinfoil hat.

Craig is SX only. He’ll still be working for the team and be a fill in if someone gets injured. 

ohh_454 wrote:
I thought his deal included mx too, I don’t remember seeing ever announced as sx only. Media outlets were also saying they heard he was getting...

I thought his deal included mx too, I don’t remember seeing ever announced as sx only. Media outlets were also saying they heard he was getting benched for outdoors so that seems like his deal included mx, at least that’s how I interpreted it. 

The press release was vague but media asked him again to confirm after he raced a couple of rounds with lack luster results and Craig confirmed he is SX only. Was mentioned on the VitalMx review pod a couple weeks back, can’t remember which round.

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NotCore wrote:
I think Webb IS an opportunist.  He's highly skilled, and when he's feeling it, and he's in the battle, he's highly focused.  I could see him...

I think Webb IS an opportunist.  He's highly skilled, and when he's feeling it, and he's in the battle, he's highly focused.  

I could see him doing all 11 rounds if he's got a shot at the title.  If not, I expect his focus to wain as it often does, and shift toward SX next year.  Make no mistake, though, he can rise to the level of outdoor risk and competition if he's motivated.  An outdoor 450 title would put him is rare air if he wraps up this SX title as expected.

yak651 wrote:
lol, yeah he’s not beating Chase, Eli and Jett outdoors. Most likely Hunter, AP and Prado will also be ahead of him. He’ll struggle to be...

lol, yeah he’s not beating Chase, Eli and Jett outdoors. Most likely Hunter, AP and Prado will also be ahead of him. He’ll struggle to be top 5

NotCore wrote:

Maybe you're right, but a lot of people would have said the same thing about SX this year too.

 Not really…. Webb has multiple SX titles already.  He has just 1 450 overall MX win in his entire career.

Apples and oranges.

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skeef wrote:

This is just my opinion, but I think if he shows up, he shows up and if he doesn't, he doesn't. 

Well you know....that's just like your opinion man....

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He won his 250 MX title coming into the season with a wrist injury. He wants the SMX title too im sure and the pay day that comes with it. He will race MX. 

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5/7/2025 7:09am
Paul333 wrote:

I expect a practice injury before the nationals even start, race a few rounds to stay in the top 20 for SMX. Come back for SMX…

Webb is already in SMX from winning a Supercross main.

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5/7/2025 7:35am
FeetUp wrote:

Webb is a racer, if he can race he’ll race

Webb is a Supercross Racer

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Paul333 wrote:

I expect a practice injury before the nationals even start, race a few rounds to stay in the top 20 for SMX. Come back for SMX…

TheMilkman wrote:

Webb is already in SMX from winning a Supercross main.

He's in, but he will want a points gap on his competition going into the 1st round. 

I will be shocked if he podiums SMX, but he's gonna win this title, so what do I know.

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Spoonguy wrote:
It is shocking to me how many telepaths there are in VitalMX. It is also shocking to me that they expend their remarkable skills on finding...

It is shocking to me how many telepaths there are in VitalMX. It is also shocking to me that they expend their remarkable skills on finding out what motorcycle racers are thinking of rather than movers and shakers on Wall Street.

Thread after thread after thread....    the funniest one of late is the JA21 thread. 

Is it any wonder DramaMX is a laughing stock.

 

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I had to get a good look at Webb's outdoor results.  Those saying how awful he is outdoors, that really isn't true.  Just do some scrolling here.  I know it was a while ago, but he had several repeat wins outdoors in his 250 days too:

Cooper Webb Supercross & Motocross Results - Racer X

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I had to get a good look at Webb's outdoor results.  Those saying how awful he is outdoors, that really isn't true.  Just do some scrolling...

I had to get a good look at Webb's outdoor results.  Those saying how awful he is outdoors, that really isn't true.  Just do some scrolling here.  I know it was a while ago, but he had several repeat wins outdoors in his 250 days too:

Cooper Webb Supercross & Motocross Results - Racer X

No one is denying he was great on a 250. When he got to the 450 class things changed...

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I suspect that unless the rider wants an outdoor title you'll see more of the top guys only do as many outdoor rounds, if any, necessary to secure enough points to be in playoffs come fall.

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I suspect that unless the rider wants an outdoor title you'll see more of the top guys only do as many outdoor rounds, if any, necessary...

I suspect that unless the rider wants an outdoor title you'll see more of the top guys only do as many outdoor rounds, if any, necessary to secure enough points to be in playoffs come fall.

I would imagine it will still pay the $1 million-ish bonus, so I think you should still see a few heavy hitters out there going for the title. If anything a guy like Webb (4-8) is less likely to show up, except for a few rounds to get more points for SMX.

I wonder if they really needed SMX, if anything it takes away from some guys racing to skip for a championship later in the season. It's like a top player in the NFL skipping weeks 15-18, to get ready for the playoffs, even though they could be fully healthy. Sure this happens some in the NFL, but usually only week 18.

Maybe they should change it to where payouts are higher as the series goes on for more incentive for guys to be out there. Or reduce the SMX payout some to pay more for nationals.

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I had to get a good look at Webb's outdoor results.  Those saying how awful he is outdoors, that really isn't true.  Just do some scrolling...

I had to get a good look at Webb's outdoor results.  Those saying how awful he is outdoors, that really isn't true.  Just do some scrolling here.  I know it was a while ago, but he had several repeat wins outdoors in his 250 days too:

Cooper Webb Supercross & Motocross Results - Racer X

Cooper Webb - Unadilla 2024 (only national) 15th with 8-35 moto scores. He's not awful, he's just not the same guy he is in supercross.

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Thought he previously stated the flat out speed in 450mx is insane and he's not comfortable going that fast?

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Spoonguy wrote:
It is shocking to me how many telepaths there are in VitalMX. It is also shocking to me that they expend their remarkable skills on finding...

It is shocking to me how many telepaths there are in VitalMX. It is also shocking to me that they expend their remarkable skills on finding out what motorcycle racers are thinking of rather than movers and shakers on Wall Street.

Well, my friends do say I'm pathetic.. of the tele variety

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skeef wrote:

This is just my opinion, but I think if he shows up, he shows up and if he doesn't, he doesn't. 

You may or may not be right. 

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5/7/2025 5:22pm
Boggins wrote:

Why race all summer for a 4th or 5th place result?  Rest up, defend SX '26.

Because the sport we love is called Motocross. Supercross is a derivative. SMX is just marketing. 

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It’s weird that some of you seem to be cheering and hoping Webb DOESN’T race outdoors. Little weird.

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It’s weird that some of you seem to be cheering and hoping Webb DOESN’T race outdoors. Little weird.

I don't think it's cheering, I think history repeats itself. He's not expected to be a championship contender, so I expect him to race a few and bow out. I hope he does race all season, the more top guys the better.

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Craig is SX only. He’ll still be working for the team and be a fill in if someone gets injured. 

ohh_454 wrote:
I thought his deal included mx too, I don’t remember seeing ever announced as sx only. Media outlets were also saying they heard he was getting...

I thought his deal included mx too, I don’t remember seeing ever announced as sx only. Media outlets were also saying they heard he was getting benched for outdoors so that seems like his deal included mx, at least that’s how I interpreted it. 

Cortami79 wrote:

Meanwhile his best 450 results were outdoors, on the Star racing after claiming his championship. He was riding really well that outdoor season

Yaa which was why it’s kinda a head scratcher that they bench him now. 

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