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As long as the financial incentives structure remains the same, sandbaggers like Old J Hampshire, Jordan Old, and Aged Anstie will keep doing what they're doing. There are 450 rides on second tier teams (Quadlock Honda etc) for these kinds of guys but they don't want to take a massive pay cut and never appear on TV again.
Agreed. Look how many of the current 8th to 15th place 450 guys were either 250 regional champions or top race winning 250 riders. Apart from the LCQers at the back of the pack nearly everyone in the field were ono of these guys. People like Anstie would barely crack the top 10 (and we know this because he was in the 450 class). And don't go on about him not being on a factory team. Factory rides can't move someone from being a 14th place rider to 5th.
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The two posts above, I HAVE NOT BLOCKED, NOR THE POSTER, so why does it state that I have ???
I think some riders could move up to 450s, Deegan, RJ did well at Daytona on a 450 once, most 250 front runners could maybe be in that Plessinger, Mookie, Barcia, Anderson area with time. One thing is certain if they never move out, they will never know. Makes one wonder if spending years and years on a 250 in SX makes it harder to adapt to a 450.
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Would be great to see Anderson, Barcia dropping down to 250.
Some other national series in Europe allows for this and everything becomes much more entertaining
What is going to be interesting is if Vialle wins the championship again this year, he has to move up. RJ evidently is already signed to a 450 for next year. Deegan is talking of moving up next year. Any other 250 riders moving up? Which 450 riders are going to make room?
The new system works by telekinesis. Subconsciously you want to block him .
Don't agree with op, but liked it just to keep title from being hidden.
And I upvoted you to help keep you from being hidden. 👍
Pay it forward - a new game on Vital?
Man it's the same thing every year Craig, J Marr, RJ , Jordan Smith or Anstie. Who cares they are all pros and me personally I enjoy watching 250 class over the 450 class most of the time.
Not only are they pros (can't sandbag the pro class, but young guns will always be aiming for them and like you said, the class is often more exciting to watch.
Honest question anyone have the time or interest to figure this out?
How many years does antsie have in supercross? 3-4?
How many years do his competitors even the younger ones? I’m betting there’s 25 year olds he’s against with 8 years or so and he’s getting shit on for being 30 something and having less than 5 years of sx experience.
I can't remember if Zach Osborne was receiving the same criticism that Anstie is getting for essentially having the same career at this point in Max's career (before Zach moved up to 450s and won a title)
250 class ain't the fully feeder class it was. The 250's run in the same event on the same night and on the same track. It's part of the professional sport of Supercross. If the best riders are on 450's then the next best are on 250's along with the young ones good enough to try and make it. The fans deserve the best there is in both classes.
Want a feeder series? Try Futures or AX.
He did one season of 250 SX in 2010, then started SX again in 2021 on 450s. So this is his sixth season all up.
That’s nothing compared to many he’s up against.
You ride the bike that your contract says you ride... Or become a privateer and pay your own way.
Which would you choose??
In my opinion you can’t call anyone with an AMA pro license a “sandbagger”!
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There might be a bike shop in Rochester that needs a counter guy....
Here's one for you. Getting ready to see if he can wrangle a few more years against 17-year-olds.
Who on the East Coast is 17 years old?
Actually they (He) did...........i am referring to roger de coster of course.....he called out mark barnett back in the day.............and stated clearly that the 125cc should be a development class mind you the there was still a 250 and 500 class back then for the adults.
I guess RD didn't think the 125 class was for adults? 😄
He was entitled to his opinion, but I would say to him that those were factory teams with factory riders Barnett was beating handily, not privateers or amateurs, they were same level competition and there were no age or point-limiting rules back then. And I don't remember hearing a lot of fans disparage him or Marty Smith or any of the other 125 champs as being sandbaggers. Conversely, I seem to remember Marty being a huge idol for a lot of people.
And let me rephrase - there wasn't this prevalent attitude that the lower cc classes champs were sandbagging. I don't remember hearing it when Everts won three consecutive 125 World titles. I can't remember loud calls (did RD criticize him?) for Robert to move to the 500 class while he was stacking 250 titiles when the 500 class was considered the Big Boy class by most. This seems to be a recent trend, perhaps rooted in the AMA having the Regional classes in SX and then the FIM age-limiting a class that has created this attitude in many?
And exactly how does one sandbag a Pro MX class? It's the top of the ladder - no dropping down to beat lesser skilled riders - a pro is a pro. Some better than others... and that's what they race to show. 👍
Anyway, I for one miss the three classes and the specialization by some riders - be they 125, 250 or 500 specialists. Those were some great days!
Haha, Old Anstie just referenced criticism that he was racing 'against 17-year-olds' in his latest interview with Lewis. Lurking Vital by any chance?
Well, let's have a look...
There are various parts to the definition but the relevant one here is:
When a player (Max Anstie, RJ Hampshire, Jordan Smith) purposefully enters an event or tournament at a lower level with the intention to dominate.
Again, they are Pro riders in a Pro class - not like they're showing up in a SX Futures race. That's just a fact, the other is opinion and personal preference.
And by the way, Everts did win the 125 World Championship THREE (3) years in a row: 1979-1981.
That's Harry Everts. Better known to Stefan Everts as, "Who's your daddy?".
Or does your moto history not go back that far? 🤪 😄
I'd be willing to bet 99.9 per cent of moto fans would think Everts meant Stefan Everts. And yes, I do know who Harry Everts is. I also know that Stefan is by far the most successful of the Everts family. Hence, when people say just Everts, they usually mean Stefan. Max Anstie is still a sandbagger by the way.
So, I mention Robert and DeCoster in the sentence right after referencing Everts winning 3 straight 125 World titles and Harry never entered your mind (since you didn't mention him and told me Everts only won ONE 125 title in '91)? And you along with 999 out of every 1000 moto fans would think that because Stefan didn't win 3 consecutive 125 titles and Harry did?
Riiiiight....
You can take that logic and fill all of Max's sandbags with it. 😄 😛
Shit, he just broke his leg!!!😭😭😭
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