Ducati 450 MXGP

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3/6/2025 12:31pm Edited Date/Time 3/6/2025 12:32pm
The problem with Desmo is the upkeep and cost of repairs cool motor setup and it will prove itself but to the average consumer it will...

The problem with Desmo is the upkeep and cost of repairs cool motor setup and it will prove itself but to the average consumer it will be a lot steeper than maintaining a traditional bikes engine. 

Desmo valves wont be any more difficult to adjust, a little different as you are shimming on two sides but it will be negligible. 

The high cost Desmo reputation is more from the replacing of the timing belts on some of the street bikes as they aren't super cheap along with the service to do them.

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$11200 Pounds i read for the UK. 
Pricey

KTM better watch out.  This is going to be the new rich +40 C rider must-have status symbol.

Dudes where I’m from who work at plants are financing their $75k F150 King Ranch’s, buying $80k bass boats and putting their wives in an even more expensive GMC Yukon Denali. They’ll finance that shit for 96 months if they can. 

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$11200 Pounds i read for the UK. 
Pricey

KTM better watch out.  This is going to be the new rich +40 C rider must-have status symbol.

Cajun Doc wrote:
Dudes where I’m from who work at plants are financing their $75k F150 King Ranch’s, buying $80k bass boats and putting their wives in an even...

Dudes where I’m from who work at plants are financing their $75k F150 King Ranch’s, buying $80k bass boats and putting their wives in an even more expensive GMC Yukon Denali. They’ll finance that shit for 96 months if they can. 

That’s nationwide

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3/6/2025 1:38pm
burn1986 wrote:

$14,400 USD. It’s pricey

HondaSM wrote:
I'm that deep into building a 250 and that's just in parts. It's really not that bad lol there will be a market for people buying...

I'm that deep into building a 250 and that's just in parts. It's really not that bad lol there will be a market for people buying a sub 15k race ready bike

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Every 250 out there is race ready. It's what is between the ears, not the legs.  That being said, people are dumb and this will make every...

Every 250 out there is race ready. It's what is between the ears, not the legs. 

 

That being said, people are dumb and this will make every other manufacturer's price go up.

Yep 100%. It will

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HondaSM wrote:

To have the parts it comes with, no it's not

burn1986 wrote:

$14,400 USD. It’s pricey

TeamGreen wrote:
Hmmmm…a guess…$13,999 US….?  If it’s anything like the display bike like what they’ve been showing at the TLD intros…Billet cases.Billet Hubs…real…billet…with Dirt Star rims…Full Ti exhaust...

Hmmmm…a guess…

$13,999 US….?  

If it’s anything like the display bike like what they’ve been showing at the TLD intros…

Billet cases.

Billet Hubs…real…billet…with Dirt Star rims…

Full Ti exhaust system 

Kashima Showas in billet triples

Ti bolts…? 

 

Huh?  Billet cases?  no way, that'd be way to expensive.  The only thing you said that I see it coming with stock is a good wheel set.  Duc is the king of over priced add-ons.  

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All depends on how she rides……..

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3/6/2025 5:54pm Edited Date/Time 3/6/2025 5:54pm
Moto520 wrote:

All depends on how she rides……..

She will ride only as well as you treat and take care of her........😉

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The problem with Desmo is the upkeep and cost of repairs cool motor setup and it will prove itself but to the average consumer it will...

The problem with Desmo is the upkeep and cost of repairs cool motor setup and it will prove itself but to the average consumer it will be a lot steeper than maintaining a traditional bikes engine. 

As I've written many times, the Modern Desmo is Not an Old Bevel or Single Desmo, with regards to upkeep / maintenance. I've dealt with Desmo engines now for quite a few decades.

They , nowadays, have quite elongated ( unintentional Pun) Valve inspection intervals, and, very, very rarely need adjustment.

The other thoughts about the CNC'd cases etc - possibly, but, I doubt it. We are looking at Works Bikes, Development bikes. I'd be very surprised if they didn't have cast casing  etc, but, you never know, to get the first batch homologated for US racing, they may well get 'fancy'.

We've got  coming, very soon, a 'new' to MX / Off Road manufacturer, and , the recent addition of Triumph  for ownership choice. 

I think it's all bloody marvelous. 

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3/7/2025 12:03am Edited Date/Time 3/7/2025 12:06am

Production bike and pricing will be presented on April 3rd. Price will be close to 450 SXF, as is already known for the UK.

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The problem with Desmo is the upkeep and cost of repairs cool motor setup and it will prove itself but to the average consumer it will...

The problem with Desmo is the upkeep and cost of repairs cool motor setup and it will prove itself but to the average consumer it will be a lot steeper than maintaining a traditional bikes engine. 

Bearuno wrote:
As I've written many times, the Modern Desmo is Not an Old Bevel or Single Desmo, with regards to upkeep / maintenance. I've dealt with Desmo...

As I've written many times, the Modern Desmo is Not an Old Bevel or Single Desmo, with regards to upkeep / maintenance. I've dealt with Desmo engines now for quite a few decades.

They , nowadays, have quite elongated ( unintentional Pun) Valve inspection intervals, and, very, very rarely need adjustment.

The other thoughts about the CNC'd cases etc - possibly, but, I doubt it. We are looking at Works Bikes, Development bikes. I'd be very surprised if they didn't have cast casing  etc, but, you never know, to get the first batch homologated for US racing, they may well get 'fancy'.

We've got  coming, very soon, a 'new' to MX / Off Road manufacturer, and , the recent addition of Triumph  for ownership choice. 

I think it's all bloody marvelous. 

Yes totally agree,

After racing moto for 26yrs I bought a 1098S for fun and track days.

Never had any issues for 5 yrs and only significant expense was new timing belts at $1800 Aud.

Thing was sick with Ohlins and termi exhaust.

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LP31 wrote:

Lewis mentioned on his gp podcast that both Ducatis holeshot on the weekend with stock motors…

Desmo valvetrain is going to change the game.

aees wrote:
Seeweer is notoriously good starter. Sets his bike up for starts specifically. So no surprise. Guadagnini also pretty good starter. But if this keeps going for sure bike...

Seeweer is notoriously good starter. Sets his bike up for starts specifically. So no surprise. 

Guadagnini also pretty good starter. 

But if this keeps going for sure bike has a part in it since there is many good starters in MXGP. 

Ducati won Motogp, WSBK in the last few weekends.

Think they are onto somethingSmile

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The TLD show bike I saw at San Diego SX still looked very prototype-y: billet parts that should be cast/forged in production, some 3D printed bits, excess brackets, etc. It will be interesting to see what the actual production bike comes with.

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Luxon MX wrote:
The TLD show bike I saw at San Diego SX still looked very prototype-y: billet parts that should be cast/forged in production, some 3D printed bits...

The TLD show bike I saw at San Diego SX still looked very prototype-y: billet parts that should be cast/forged in production, some 3D printed bits, excess brackets, etc. It will be interesting to see what the actual production bike comes with.

April 3rd

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complain all you want about the price. but I sell motorcycles for a massive Ducati store on the east coast. been getting calls all week about people looking into purchasing them.

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3/7/2025 7:45am Edited Date/Time 3/7/2025 7:48am
Luxon MX wrote:
The TLD show bike I saw at San Diego SX still looked very prototype-y: billet parts that should be cast/forged in production, some 3D printed bits...

The TLD show bike I saw at San Diego SX still looked very prototype-y: billet parts that should be cast/forged in production, some 3D printed bits, excess brackets, etc. It will be interesting to see what the actual production bike comes with.

I'm pretty sure in one of the videos, at the time, Troy - or someone else - said the bike was a well used / abused test bike, and they had to "gussey it up a bit", or something like that, to make it presentable.

To the 250 debut this weekend - Only Lupino ( there's Nothing wrong about Lupino) - No AC or other Duke 250 out there, whereas they had the 2 450s out in public, last year. Hopefully, we see Antonio out there sometime - he's still blazingly fast on the smaller bikes. 

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Looking at some of the things that Duc has done with other models over these recent years and how quickly this program has evolved…

I can see things like billet side-cases and covers as a possibility. Center cases? Not likely, but…that does enable them to make them “NOW” and then utilizing castings as they become available.

As for things like “real” billet triples and who currently offers such things…I’ll leave that to the Doctor of Materials & F.E.A. at the marvelous company known as…Luxon! 👍🏼

Based on pricing and the impression that Ducati seemingly wants to make…I’m also guessing that they will go in the direction of the Pingale and offer an R or SP that’s got some very nice goodies on it.

That’s what I’m hoping they’re doing with their launch model. That would explain the price at this point. As others have said, the British price translates to $14,400 U.S. That should be for a really nicely equipped version…

But, hey, I could be wrong. 😂

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TeamGreen wrote:
Looking at some of the things that Duc has done with other models over these recent years and how quickly this program has evolved…I can see...

Looking at some of the things that Duc has done with other models over these recent years and how quickly this program has evolved…

I can see things like billet side-cases and covers as a possibility. Center cases? Not likely, but…that does enable them to make them “NOW” and then utilizing castings as they become available.

As for things like “real” billet triples and who currently offers such things…I’ll leave that to the Doctor of Materials & F.E.A. at the marvelous company known as…Luxon! 👍🏼

Based on pricing and the impression that Ducati seemingly wants to make…I’m also guessing that they will go in the direction of the Pingale and offer an R or SP that’s got some very nice goodies on it.

That’s what I’m hoping they’re doing with their launch model. That would explain the price at this point. As others have said, the British price translates to $14,400 U.S. That should be for a really nicely equipped version…

But, hey, I could be wrong. 😂

Dirtbikes are usually cheaper in the US (MSRP) than in Europe so it's more interesting to look at retail price in the same country.

450SXF £10 999

Desmo450MX £11 245

So about the same but I also fully expect crazy priced R, RS, SP editions.

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Cheaper than a ktm at retail there. I think with what people thought they were going to cost, this is cheap. I’d imagine they will sell...

Cheaper than a ktm at retail there. I think with what people thought they were going to cost, this is cheap. I’d imagine they will sell well, it is a very nice looking bike.

£11,200 (Pounds) is equivalent to $14,455.62 US Dollars...So not quite

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complain all you want about the price. but I sell motorcycles for a massive Ducati store on the east coast. been getting calls all week about...

complain all you want about the price. but I sell motorcycles for a massive Ducati store on the east coast. been getting calls all week about people looking into purchasing them.

Sell me that 2025 WR250F you have on the floor for a good deal....I came and looked at it Saturday afternoon. (Judging by your hometown I am guessing I know what shop you are referring to)

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$11200 Pounds i read for the UK. 
Pricey

KTM better watch out.  This is going to be the new rich +40 C rider must-have status symbol.

Ha Ha 

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Bearuno wrote:
mumbles wrote:

Seems odd that the 250 will debut this weekend but there hasn't been one single picture of it.

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Bearuno wrote:
mumbles wrote:

Seems odd that the 250 will debut this weekend but there hasn't been one single picture of it.

avidchimp wrote:

That's the thing, there aren't any pictures of the 250 in this article.

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Beagle wrote:

That's the thing, there aren't any pictures of the 250 in this article.

🤷‍♂️

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Stealth like Triumph !

3/7/2025 12:56pm Edited Date/Time 3/7/2025 1:24pm
Cheaper than a ktm at retail there. I think with what people thought they were going to cost, this is cheap. I’d imagine they will sell...

Cheaper than a ktm at retail there. I think with what people thought they were going to cost, this is cheap. I’d imagine they will sell well, it is a very nice looking bike.

BobPA wrote:

£11,200 (Pounds) is equivalent to $14,455.62 US Dollars...So not quite

But the prices are lower in the US.

A 450SX-F lists at £10,999 ($14,200), so the Duck is very similarly priced to a standard KTM, and well below a factory edition.

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But the prices are lower in the US.A 450SX-F lists at £10,999 ($14,200), so the Duck is very similarly priced to a standard KTM, and well...

But the prices are lower in the US.

A 450SX-F lists at £10,999 ($14,200), so the Duck is very similarly priced to a standard KTM, and well below a factory edition.

I guess we will see when they hit the market.

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I will probably buy one

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