RIP Jeff Alessi

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munsch121 wrote:
Lesson for everyone.....about a month after Jeff Passed I myself had a heart attack. 47 Years old, healthy, no red meat, no sweets, road my bike...

Lesson for everyone.....about a month after Jeff Passed I myself had a heart attack. 47 Years old, healthy, no red meat, no sweets, road my bike upward of 100 miles per week, I was even taking a daily asprin and medication to reduce my triglycerides......While on a 25 mile bike ride on 11/11/2023 at about 930 am on a brisk 27 degree day I instantly knew I was having a heart attack...on a biek trail in the middle of no where...i called my wife and she called 911 and I rode 2 miles to the nearest landmark knowing that was my only chance....15 minutes later I was in full cardiac arrest and received 37 minutes of chest compressions and 10 defibrillator "shocks" Much of it right in front of my wife in the ER. Breaking my sternum half my ribs and even 2 vertebrae in my back...these heros just would NOT give up on me.

What happen was called a "widow maker" basically a piece of plaque broke off my Left Anterior Descending artery and it almost instantly clot and thanks to some amazing Paramedics, police officers and ER Doctors and Nurses I am here to tell the tale and have made a full recovery. I was told about 10% of people survive this when they experience it in a hospital.....outside of hospital ? probably less than 1%.

Moral of this story ? I have horrible Genetics, I know I do so I was doing everything I could to prevent this from happening AND IT STILL HAPPEN. If you have terrible Genes, dont ignore them !!! Numbers that are "normal" for most are elevated when you genetically predisposed to it. If you have a grandfather, a father, an uncle who died from a heart attack at a young age ? take care of it as young as you can.....

Amazing story man.   

Wow.

 

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Yea all the clot stories have me wondering too....hmmm

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Jeff was unvaxxed.  It's noted in a post on page 9 - info from his mother.

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Wow, I wonder what causes clots like that in someone of his young age?  Was something like Forkner had in his head that required brain surgery...

Wow, I wonder what causes clots like that in someone of his young age?  Was something like Forkner had in his head that required brain surgery to remove.  Scary stuff for a young and healthy athlete to go out like that.

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Leg and foot injuries can cause blood clots and Jeff had plenty of both. I've known Tony since the late 80's and I'll take his word for...

Leg and foot injuries can cause blood clots and Jeff had plenty of both. 

I've known Tony since the late 80's and I'll take his word for it. 

 

Well if you are hearing it straight from Tony and this is what happened this is very scary and relates to all of us, including Jett...

Well if you are hearing it straight from Tony and this is what happened this is very scary and relates to all of us, including Jett and Tomac at the moment.  So now the question is, if we do have a foot/leg injury are we supposed to take blood thinners or something like Neprinol?

Ortho docs are very aware of risk of blood clots with extremity injuries and surgeries and have studied many different approaches to addressing them. In most cases the risks to blood thinners outweigh the benefits, but blood clots definitely something to be on lookout for. 

Riding a dirt bike would be a hard no if you're on any real blood thinners though. 

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Ortho docs are very aware of risk of blood clots with extremity injuries and surgeries and have studied many different approaches to addressing them. In most...

Ortho docs are very aware of risk of blood clots with extremity injuries and surgeries and have studied many different approaches to addressing them. In most cases the risks to blood thinners outweigh the benefits, but blood clots definitely something to be on lookout for. 

Riding a dirt bike would be a hard no if you're on any real blood thinners though. 

Racing/riding on blood thinners is not a good idea...

Even a minor head hit can be very dangerous.   

 

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Demuth... died in his sleep, blood clots. Leg injury. 

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My sister-in-law passed away from a blood clot from ACL replacement back in 2018. Having a leg immobilized for anything is dangerous.

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Thank you for the blood clot info and dangers of leg immobility......just had knee replacement surgery, the Dr. left me at home for 25 days, leg immobile, extreme pain, no movement for 25 days,  before he said  "we should prob start P.T."   Smile      It is very hard to have respect for most Dr.'s these days.   Guess I got lucky with with no blood clots.

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Jeff was a really good guy if you got to know him. He is missed dearly by his family and friends. RIP Jeff. 801

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2/12/2025 7:35pm Edited Date/Time 2/12/2025 7:39pm
Boggins wrote:
Thank you for the blood clot info and dangers of leg immobility......just had knee replacement surgery, the Dr. left me at home for 25 days, leg...

Thank you for the blood clot info and dangers of leg immobility......just had knee replacement surgery, the Dr. left me at home for 25 days, leg immobile, extreme pain, no movement for 25 days,  before he said  "we should prob start P.T."   Smile      It is very hard to have respect for most Dr.'s these days.   Guess I got lucky with with no blood clots.

I have done a lot of Ortho in my time and this sounds fishy.

Are you in the states? Most people go home day of or day after surgery now (if it was a late surgery). Pt (physical therapy) will go to pacu and work with patient prior to even getting to the ortho floor. 

PT works with you in house before you ever go home. Case MGMT should be setting up home health or rehab (either at home or in office). I do travel nursing and have been all over the u.s. and this sounds so different than any Ortho I have been associated with ever. 

If your story is honestly true and you are in the US just know this is not the norm and your hospitals Ortho area needs to be checked up on.  I'm not saying this didn't happen you but it's extremely rare if you had this done in the states.hope all is well with you now? 

Most knee and hip replacements will be on some form of blood thinner before leaving. Whether it be Xarelto, eliquis, lovenox, Coumadin, etc  or whatever for 4-6 weeks post surgery. 

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2/12/2025 9:46pm Edited Date/Time 2/12/2025 10:09pm

When I broke my Tib/Fib and had to get two plates and fifteen screws they sent me home with a big bag of Enoxaparin. I hate needles but was forced to give myself a shot in the belly every day for 28 days.  Would have hated to get a blood clot as my father had numerous PE's later in his life.

 

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munsch121 wrote:
Lesson for everyone.....about a month after Jeff Passed I myself had a heart attack. 47 Years old, healthy, no red meat, no sweets, road my bike...

Lesson for everyone.....about a month after Jeff Passed I myself had a heart attack. 47 Years old, healthy, no red meat, no sweets, road my bike upward of 100 miles per week, I was even taking a daily asprin and medication to reduce my triglycerides......While on a 25 mile bike ride on 11/11/2023 at about 930 am on a brisk 27 degree day I instantly knew I was having a heart attack...on a biek trail in the middle of no where...i called my wife and she called 911 and I rode 2 miles to the nearest landmark knowing that was my only chance....15 minutes later I was in full cardiac arrest and received 37 minutes of chest compressions and 10 defibrillator "shocks" Much of it right in front of my wife in the ER. Breaking my sternum half my ribs and even 2 vertebrae in my back...these heros just would NOT give up on me.

What happen was called a "widow maker" basically a piece of plaque broke off my Left Anterior Descending artery and it almost instantly clot and thanks to some amazing Paramedics, police officers and ER Doctors and Nurses I am here to tell the tale and have made a full recovery. I was told about 10% of people survive this when they experience it in a hospital.....outside of hospital ? probably less than 1%.

Moral of this story ? I have horrible Genetics, I know I do so I was doing everything I could to prevent this from happening AND IT STILL HAPPEN. If you have terrible Genes, dont ignore them !!! Numbers that are "normal" for most are elevated when you genetically predisposed to it. If you have a grandfather, a father, an uncle who died from a heart attack at a young age ? take care of it as young as you can.....

Magoofan wrote:

Amazing story man.   

Wow.

 

incredible story. thats amazing they were able to save your life. yall downvote teh fk outta me for all i care, but good quality lean red meats would probably have an indirectly positive effect. 

 

by B Haring · 2017 · Cited by 24 — In nonhypertensive participants, neither unprocessed nor processed red meat intake was associated with changes in cardiac parameters or carotid atherosclerosis.
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Are blood clot issues with leg injuries normally around the time of the injury? Or is it something you are susceptible to years down the road? I only ask because I’ve had surgery on both in the last 22 years

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Boggins wrote:
Thank you for the blood clot info and dangers of leg immobility......just had knee replacement surgery, the Dr. left me at home for 25 days, leg...

Thank you for the blood clot info and dangers of leg immobility......just had knee replacement surgery, the Dr. left me at home for 25 days, leg immobile, extreme pain, no movement for 25 days,  before he said  "we should prob start P.T."   Smile      It is very hard to have respect for most Dr.'s these days.   Guess I got lucky with with no blood clots.

That Weird, after my TKA they had me walking 8 hrs after surgery and 1st PT the next morning. 25 days of being I'm Bible must have been a hard PT to break up the scar tissue etc...

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Are blood clot issues with leg injuries normally around the time of the injury? Or is it something you are susceptible to years down the road...

Are blood clot issues with leg injuries normally around the time of the injury? Or is it something you are susceptible to years down the road? I only ask because I’ve had surgery on both in the last 22 years

Curious about this as well. Had a dislocated tibia, and 4 toes for roughly 5 hours before the Doctor relocated them, along with a broken fibula that required a plate and screws in 2020. What is the timeframe a blood clot could appear? 

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Are the Watchman devices still in regular use? They’re the clot filters that were used proactively for many different surgery situations. I heard about lawsuits against the manufacturer, the things did have occasional problems but overall they saved something like several hundred lives for each problem. 

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I snapped my femur 2 years ago at 45 years old, clean break. I too had blood clots and they were pretty freaked out. Had to put me on coumadin before the surgery. Its was a mofo because all the blood went to my knee during the surgery. It was purple and the size of a grapefruit , couldn't bend the fucker at all. Also had fatty embolisms floating around due to the amount of marrow that escaped from the femur. I also had super low Hemoglobin and needed a blood transfusion which finally got me home.  I guess leg breaks are not to be trifled with. 

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Are blood clot issues with leg injuries normally around the time of the injury? Or is it something you are susceptible to years down the road...

Are blood clot issues with leg injuries normally around the time of the injury? Or is it something you are susceptible to years down the road? I only ask because I’ve had surgery on both in the last 22 years

Had a friend of a friend die from a blood clot about one month after knee surgery. He passed a few days after being taken off blood thinners. His dad couldn’t get a hold of him and did a check in at his apartment and found him collapsed on the kitchen floor. 

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Are blood clot issues with leg injuries normally around the time of the injury? Or is it something you are susceptible to years down the road...

Are blood clot issues with leg injuries normally around the time of the injury? Or is it something you are susceptible to years down the road? I only ask because I’ve had surgery on both in the last 22 years

Camp332 wrote:
Curious about this as well. Had a dislocated tibia, and 4 toes for roughly 5 hours before the Doctor relocated them, along with a broken fibula...

Curious about this as well. Had a dislocated tibia, and 4 toes for roughly 5 hours before the Doctor relocated them, along with a broken fibula that required a plate and screws in 2020. What is the timeframe a blood clot could appear? 

My DVT was caught about a month or so after the surgery tib fib pilon fracture and my Talus was in six pieces 27 screws two plates! Doc said it was from the trauma from the injury and subsequent surgery and immobilization! My PT caught it early thank God was hospitalized for a little over a week the nurses and doctors scared the s*** out of me saying how lucky I was to be alive lol! I was 30 didn't know anything about blood clots! If you have any concerns you should really talk to your doctor and get the necessary scans it's only about a 20 minute ultrasound I still do one every year or so just to be safe!

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I've read that this can happen from staying seated for too long on flights (albeit rarely). If your legs aren't getting the circulation they need you can have some cardiac issues when you stand up upon landing.

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Are blood clot issues with leg injuries normally around the time of the injury? Or is it something you are susceptible to years down the road...

Are blood clot issues with leg injuries normally around the time of the injury? Or is it something you are susceptible to years down the road? I only ask because I’ve had surgery on both in the last 22 years

Blood clots risks are highest in the weeks and months after leg injury or surgery, mainly due to immobility, inflammation and increased clotting activity ( thats why you get blood thinners after surgery). If you had surgery on both legs years ago and never had a clot, your risk is very likely back to normal. However, if you've had previous blood clots, vein damage or some  underlying genetic disorder, your risk could still be elevated long-term. One important thing is, be aware to symptoms like swelling, pain and redness. 

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I've read that this can happen from staying seated for too long on flights (albeit rarely). If your legs aren't getting the circulation they need you...

I've read that this can happen from staying seated for too long on flights (albeit rarely). If your legs aren't getting the circulation they need you can have some cardiac issues when you stand up upon landing.

Yes.  Just happened to a family friend, collapsed on the jetway leaving the plane after a 14 hour flight.

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JBecker 72 wrote:
Had a friend of a friend die from a blood clot about one month after knee surgery. He passed a few days after being taken off...

Had a friend of a friend die from a blood clot about one month after knee surgery. He passed a few days after being taken off blood thinners. His dad couldn’t get a hold of him and did a check in at his apartment and found him collapsed on the kitchen floor. 

Going off blood thinners is very dangerous and often causes heart attacks or strokes. Usually it's older people who are on them daily but then need surgery and are told to stop taking them 3 days before and bam.

Sorry about the loss of your friend. 

There are inflatable leg compressors/massagers now that are supposed to help with leg clots, hospital and PT ones are expensive, there's cheaper ones on Amazon but not sure the effectiveness of them. 

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About 1980 or so I was riding a YZ 465 at SIR (Seattle International Rockways) at a night MX. Got the holeshot from the outside. There was a slight bend to the left before a 90 to the right. At the bend my left foot was out and in the shadows was a big ass rock. I hit the sole of my boot on it and my foot went numb! I rode the 5 lap race and pulled off. Ended up at the hospital with a several broken bones in my foot. 2 days later I passed 2 blood clots up my leg and into my heart and then they ended in my lungs. The chest pain was over the top during this! The doc looked at the scans (both clots had followed the same path and were an 1 hour and half apart) and said that was an impossible occurrence and shook my hand as in his eyes that was a miracle!! Then he handed me a prescription for Coumadin, told be to sit on my ass for 2 weeks. 

 

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Boggins wrote:
Thank you for the blood clot info and dangers of leg immobility......just had knee replacement surgery, the Dr. left me at home for 25 days, leg...

Thank you for the blood clot info and dangers of leg immobility......just had knee replacement surgery, the Dr. left me at home for 25 days, leg immobile, extreme pain, no movement for 25 days,  before he said  "we should prob start P.T."   Smile      It is very hard to have respect for most Dr.'s these days.   Guess I got lucky with with no blood clots.

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That Weird, after my TKA they had me walking 8 hrs after surgery and 1st PT the next morning. 25 days of being I'm Bible must...

That Weird, after my TKA they had me walking 8 hrs after surgery and 1st PT the next morning. 25 days of being I'm Bible must have been a hard PT to break up the scar tissue etc...

I posted the same thing above. I've worked a lot of Ortho in my nursing career and all over and the push now is that if a patient has an early surgery, they try to get them up and going. They even have them go home same day. When I first started 14 years ago knees and hips got three in-patient days. Now it's about 1 days at most. But if it's a late surgery I've seen the PT guys go to the pacu area and start working them.

As for sitting 25 days I don't know how you even do that. But by that time of little to no activity I'm surprised he didn't have to go back to surgery to get a manipulation to free that knee up some.  

Interesting story and I'd like to hear more of it. Lots of places Ortho surgeries are part of core measurements for some hospitals and it's a big deal. Sounds like this place is lacking some to say the least. 

Lots of people dropped the ball on him. The Dr, his PA or NP, physical therapy, case management, even his nurses. He should have gotten something. Old and bad health you can get in-patient rehab, pretty decent shape and younger you can usually at least get home-health visits to show you some beneficial exercises. At worst they set you up to bring yourself into a rehab facility and do out patient rehab. Hopefully after sitting for 25 days he was on some kind of thinner. 

 

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2/13/2025 7:59am Edited Date/Time 2/13/2025 8:02am

I almost died eight years ago three times in two weeks from a blood clot in my portal vein (esophageal bleeding into the stomach). The blood clot was caused by a jak2 gene mutation. It was an undiagnosed blood clot I had for years while training and competing in the Leadville100. 

If you have a history of blood clots in your family. It may be good to get tested (my mother reportedly had one in high school but refused to get tested for the gene mutation when mine was discovered). There are several gene mutations that can increase a person's risk for one. 

I'm not a doctor obviously, but just pointing out how a lot of things can cause blood clots. Including being a super fit athlete due to increased blood volume and low resting heart rates. 

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This thread is a drag.  I miss Jeffy and it's cool to remember him but this latest resurrection is kinda like an episode of "A 1000 Ways to Die".  🙃

 

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munsch121 wrote:
Lesson for everyone.....about a month after Jeff Passed I myself had a heart attack. 47 Years old, healthy, no red meat, no sweets, road my bike...

Lesson for everyone.....about a month after Jeff Passed I myself had a heart attack. 47 Years old, healthy, no red meat, no sweets, road my bike upward of 100 miles per week, I was even taking a daily asprin and medication to reduce my triglycerides......While on a 25 mile bike ride on 11/11/2023 at about 930 am on a brisk 27 degree day I instantly knew I was having a heart attack...on a biek trail in the middle of no where...i called my wife and she called 911 and I rode 2 miles to the nearest landmark knowing that was my only chance....15 minutes later I was in full cardiac arrest and received 37 minutes of chest compressions and 10 defibrillator "shocks" Much of it right in front of my wife in the ER. Breaking my sternum half my ribs and even 2 vertebrae in my back...these heros just would NOT give up on me.

What happen was called a "widow maker" basically a piece of plaque broke off my Left Anterior Descending artery and it almost instantly clot and thanks to some amazing Paramedics, police officers and ER Doctors and Nurses I am here to tell the tale and have made a full recovery. I was told about 10% of people survive this when they experience it in a hospital.....outside of hospital ? probably less than 1%.

Moral of this story ? I have horrible Genetics, I know I do so I was doing everything I could to prevent this from happening AND IT STILL HAPPEN. If you have terrible Genes, dont ignore them !!! Numbers that are "normal" for most are elevated when you genetically predisposed to it. If you have a grandfather, a father, an uncle who died from a heart attack at a young age ? take care of it as young as you can.....

Middletown NY, I must know you! I am from Monticello but recently moved to Fla. MSC?

2/13/2025 9:30am

This is somewhat of an eye opening thread with lots of people sharing their or others experiences with blood clots. I had no idea.

I don't know all the details but my 31 year old daughter in law has blood clot issues that she is on top of, taking some medication. However, and this was horrible for all to go through, when she was pregnant with her first child and on the blood clot medication her baby doctor did a blood test and concluded that their unborn child had down syndrome or was going to be born with some mental handicap. To say this was upsetting is an understatement!

Well, she wasn't really gelling with this doctor to begin with so she got referred to a new doctor, and guess what. The new doctor looked at her blood test, checked to see what medications she was on and said the baby was more then likely fine and that her blood numbers were off because of the blood clot medication! Everything turned out wonderful and we now have 2 healthy granddaughters but when she delivered they had to be extra careful about any bleeding she had. 

Moral of the story, if you have a gut feeling your doctor isn't very good, get a second opinion no matter how much it hurts their ego.

 

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This thread is a drag.  I miss Jeffy and it's cool to remember him but this latest resurrection is kinda like an episode of "A 1000...

This thread is a drag.  I miss Jeffy and it's cool to remember him but this latest resurrection is kinda like an episode of "A 1000 Ways to Die".  🙃

 

Maybe if something good can come out of Jeff's passing it would be people sharing the reality of blood clots!

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