"Most people probably don't understand"

The last time he did that, it was on the 2014-2017 YZ450, which, while not a terrible bike, got dunked on relentlessly by the moto community over its run.

As long as you apply lots of elbow grease.

I'm glad to read some of you find this guys antics off putting also.

Dudes a creeper for sure.

Keefer on his own show is a lot better of a listen. He’s too much of a “character” when he’s on Pulp. 

But their growing the sport right? Lol

What an event of turns..

What’s a “tow”?

I love listening to those guys and I think that they’re the best and most entertaining of all the Moto media. But technically neither of them are very sharp, and I think that they should mostly stick to the jokes and rumors. 

I love how goofy those guys are. They totally make me laugh and smile and I appreciate all the content they put out. If it wasn’t for them thete would be a big void of moto comedy. 

Pulp , some has it's mioments, some good, some not so much. kind of like many shows, pod cast, etc.

Lots of other pod casts if this ione doesn't work for you.

Look at one of your feet - you should have 5 of them on there.

Now, if you ask me what feet are...

Now the vital know-it-alls 🤡 have decided they don’t like Keefer.

Are those who ARENT ‘core’, listening to a podcast about it? 

I don’t think they are. Only the ‘core’ are listening IMO.

Dumbing the show down seems like more of a Keefer thing. I believe Steve has said in the past "the casual viewer isn't listening to Pulp" etc. or something along those lines.

Why Keefer feels the need to do this, IDK.

Queefer is a fitting name. 

It's not about like or dislike, it's about a modestly patronizing and insulting way he said something on a podcast. Nobody is saying anything about liking or disliking him, it is his statement that raised neck hair. Of course I and others have mentioned his jerk off talk is off putting as well. Otherwise for the most part I think people are pretty indifferent about him.

It’s not about not liking the guy. 

He really needs to find his calling. I’d like him to do a podcast with very very good technical details about the bikes. 

He could do a few. Some about his observations of the pro bikes. What he can see ‘x’ riders bike is doing and why, and how certain riders use particular set ups. But don’t hold back! Don’t tell us how lengthening the chain effects steering, get much much more in depth. 

Then he could do one for us riders- with suggestions on what to try, how to experiment, what to look for and feel. 

This would be great

If Keefer saying that bothers you, you need thicker skin. 

The problem is some of his "hard" findings and observations have been proven to be factually incorrect. The floating axle thing is a perfect example. I remember another argument he had with Paul Perebijnos about bars where Keefer is just simply wrong.

Not hating on the guy, I'm sure in his mind he can feel the difference. But it's just not reality.

One guys opinion, or his PERCEIVED change in feel from something that literally changed nothing...isn't going to help anyone. Moto is so subjective on bike feel and preference.

Again, it is not just Keefer. It is the cumulative effect of the moto media constantly insulting the intelligence of the fans and audience. What he stated was harmless enough, I agree, but it is tiresome when it seems every podcast or airing insinuates moto fans as knuckle dragging idiots.

I like listening to Keefer, I think he's funny sometimes. Not the biggest fan of his after-dark attitude, but that's his personality. 

I have a hard time taking his testing seriously when he makes up words and testing "terminology". Maybe this is to dumb it down for the below average Joe, but I don't think it's appropriate. I also don't really trust his opinion fully when he doesn't wrench on his own bikes, especially if the part in question is something mechanical. 

On his Triumph Baseline Settings show he didn't even know if the bike had one or two oil drain plugs... Come on dude. 

Almost everything heard on a podcast is subjective. 

I’m happy to listen to various different interpretations of things and happy to make my own mind up on what I hear.

You know, I thought people listened to these guys for their opinions…?🤣

And it sounds like Keefer’s opinion is that sometimes “Most people don’t understand…”. 

Gotta say, really doesn’t bother me. At all. 

No way, an industry guy doesn't bother you?? 😂🍻

All in fun...

The biggest thing that blew me away from this episode was that a credentialed member of the motocross media didn’t know that Ecstar is Suzuki’s lubricant line…

I think these industry guys live in a pretty small bubble. They don’t really have any qualifications besides that they ride dirtbikes a lot. I was always pretty amazed about how much keefer didn’t know technically or mechanically about dirtbikes especially being as big a part of dirt rider as he was. A lot of times it sounds like he’s never worked on a bike before.

There’s a big technical change to a chassis or engine. Keefers explanation of said change “it’s got more comfortability”

Keefer seems like a solid person, but I find he is quite out of touch. As an example he laughed at me for running tires for 20hrs per set. I don't race but ride around 250 hrs a year, buy a new bike, spend around 4k in tires, then all the fuel, gear etc... Not everyone is filthy rich or gets free parts. 

They expect everything to be super serious. Everything must be professional and “class act.” 🤓

I mean damn, can’t the guys kick back, have some fun, say some crazy stuff to laugh at with their friends?

 Don’t act like you don’t say some off the wall shit when it’s just you and the fellas. 

Yet everyone that had something negative to say on this post will still listen every week. Getting this upset that they took 4 minutes to talk about what a tow is. Wild 

I like the guy, and I check his site regularly, I just take some of his advice with a grain of salt. Like the washers on triple clamp bolts, I’d need to see FEA to prove that one before buying that it could do anything. Maybe the Yamaha guys trolled him? On the other hand he’s got solid advice on baseline setups and I’ve learned how to make my bike work better from him. He gets a lot of bikes working better and I think that’s really cool.

Finding stuff to talk about for hours every week is tough and sometimes it sounds like filler material. But he’s making a living riding new bikes all the time, so he’s definitely doing better than I am, lol!