Lawrence Bros fire agent!!

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1/23/2025 9:56am

Now that the Lawrence’s put out their statement, will any other riders Lucas used to work for also put out a statement?

Not sure about contract or business law but if he hasn't ripped off other riders, to fire him preemptively might breach the contract. I'm sure the other riders are digging deep into their accounts now.

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1/23/2025 9:56am Edited Date/Time 1/23/2025 12:55pm

I'm curious as to how deep this will go and who else is involved.   ?

 

Tax time probably brought this to the surface.

If talk last past this weekend, then it's probably a lone wolf.  

If it is killed quickly, then I would suspect it  goes deeper than one guy.  

Possible gambling and he's not allowed  because a conflict of interest? 

 

So many questions right now

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1/23/2025 9:56am

Now we know who stole Jett’s mojo 

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1/23/2025 9:57am Edited Date/Time 1/23/2025 9:57am

Jacob Hayes' day certainly took a turn for the better.

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1/23/2025 9:58am Edited Date/Time 1/23/2025 9:59am

I will wait for more facts. Both of these are bizarre. 1) Who goes on social media to fire someone, 2) who responds like that to such serious allegations? 

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1/23/2025 9:59am

I love it, all the vitard legal experts have analyzed the case and made their decision already, just hours after this was announced. 😂 

The efficiency is amazing. Who need lawyers or judges, we have the vitards.

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1/23/2025 9:59am Edited Date/Time 1/23/2025 10:01am
TriRacer27 wrote:

His defense is there's no way he could've done it because other people had logins to the accounts? Seriously?

crusty_xx wrote:
I think he meant if he would steal something he wouldn't do it on an account where missing money would be obvious because a bunch of...

I think he meant if he would steal something he wouldn't do it on an account where missing money would be obvious because a bunch of people and controllers have access to them

TriRacer27 wrote:
Embezzling almost always happens in complex accounts where multiple people have access. If you want to get away with robbing, you have to provide cover. Like...

Embezzling almost always happens in complex accounts where multiple people have access. If you want to get away with robbing, you have to provide cover. Like how a pick pocket always chooses places where there are many people around to blend in with. 

 

Honestly, this is more damaging to Wasserman. If I was an other athlete I would be wondering why it took the Lawrances to find the issue? Why didn't the accountants find the error? What kind of checks and balances do they have in place so it's not left to the athletes and celebrities they rep to double check everything?

I think there's a decent chance wassermann is who did discover the issue and that's why they had no issue firing him. It wasn't like Lawrence brothers just fired him as a client. Wassermann fire  mirtl and also kept the brothers despite whatever happened, which makes you think they are satisfied with their approach to all of it. 

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1/23/2025 10:00am

Now that the Lawrence’s put out their statement, will any other riders Lucas used to work for also put out a statement?

Really wondering about this, I feel like the Coenen’s almost have to say something

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Geez. Reading that only brought one question to mind: Is he on drugs?

He woke up this morning like..

He woke up this morning like..

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Nah, but seriously, there's a bunch of the red flags of substance abuse present here that somebody who is supposedly a professional in business communication and...

Nah, but seriously, there's a bunch of the red flags of substance abuse present here that somebody who is supposedly a professional in business communication and legal agreements pressed "send" on this as a public statement after serious criminal accusations.
 

Red flags:

The hasty writing style and lack of any proofreading prior to send.

The stream-of-consciousness organization.

Incomplete thoughts trailing off to nothing.

The defensive how dare you impugn me -- I am a known good guy, rather than directly responding to or, better yet from a legal standpoint, quietly cataloging accusations and saying nothing until seeking counsel.

The paranoid anger and revenge-seeking: I know one of you close to me did this, and I'll make your life hell.

The weird confessional pleading: Hey, I've made my mistakes, but haven't we all.

The call for allies: You're with me or against me.

The dispairing (and possibly suicidally coded): I don't know if I can even get through this moment.

The final lashing out: I hope this never happens to all you haters.

Yep same thing I thought. Anyone that hasn't been around an addict could easily miss these signs though.

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1/23/2025 10:00am Edited Date/Time 1/23/2025 10:09am
truck wrote:
Bet wassermann picked up on something and has been gathering the evidence for a while. No way they drop him that quickly unless they already know...

Bet wassermann picked up on something and has been gathering the evidence for a while. No way they drop him that quickly unless they already know everything there is to know about whatever happened. 

Going to be another story where the moto bros all tell us they heard rumblings a while ago but didn't report anything because reasons..... 

My guess is Mirtl will try to settle. If that happens there is sure to be a non-disclosure agreement and we'll never know.

If other riders know, they would be wise to keep their mouths closed because if for some reason it come out to be unfounded the they are open to slander charges. 

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1/23/2025 10:01am
His side, which was expected:

His side, which was expected:


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aeffertz wrote:
Amazing! Somehow he’s the victim in all of this. “I don’t know how to get through this right now.” Well if it’s a complete backstabbing like you’ve implied...

Amazing! Somehow he’s the victim in all of this. 

“I don’t know how to get through this right now.” 

Well if it’s a complete backstabbing like you’ve implied, get a lawyer for one. However, if you know you’ve fucked up, I would also be asking myself “How the fuck do I get out of this? I’ve ruined everything.”

Honestly, that post reads of a desperate man who’s just barely starting to understand the consequences of his actions as his world crashes around him. 

I would bet it was some sort of fine print shit where he gets some extra percentage on things but never actually talked to anyone about it even his employer and was just transferring funds to his personal account all so he can be like it’s right there in clause 278 of the 1000 page contract that they were suppose to read. Knowing full well it would get missed. Now he’s acting like blindsided like he just woke up in a jail cell after a night of drinking asking what happened. 

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1/23/2025 10:03am
I love it, all the vitard legal experts have analyzed the case and made their decision already, just hours after this was announced. 😂 The efficiency is...

I love it, all the vitard legal experts have analyzed the case and made their decision already, just hours after this was announced. 😂 

The efficiency is amazing. Who need lawyers or judges, we have the vitards.

Do you have anything of substance to add or are you going to just keep repeating this over and over?

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1/23/2025 10:04am
yak651 wrote:

lol, he made the Lawerence bros

Rickyisms wrote:
Like I said prior in this thread, Mirtl has always thought he’s way more important than he actually is. Every appearance on Pulp was him blowing...

Like I said prior in this thread, Mirtl has always thought he’s way more important than he actually is. Every appearance on Pulp was him blowing himself. 

The vibe I got too, but I always thought hey what do I know, he seems to be doing well for his clients.

Guess not.

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1/23/2025 10:06am
truck wrote:
Bet wassermann picked up on something and has been gathering the evidence for a while. No way they drop him that quickly unless they already know...

Bet wassermann picked up on something and has been gathering the evidence for a while. No way they drop him that quickly unless they already know everything there is to know about whatever happened. 

Going to be another story where the moto bros all tell us they heard rumblings a while ago but didn't report anything because reasons..... 

captmoto wrote:
My guess is Mirtl will try to settle. If that happens there is sure to be a non-disclosure agreement and we'll never know.If other riders know...

My guess is Mirtl will try to settle. If that happens there is sure to be a non-disclosure agreement and we'll never know.

If other riders know, they would be wise to keep their mouths closed because if for some reason it come out to be unfounded the they are open to slander charges. 

Embezzlement is very hard to prove criminally, because one of the elements is the funds/property have been entrusted to the suspect. So the gray area is substantial.

Settlement is very likely in my opinion.

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1/23/2025 10:07am
I love it, all the vitard legal experts have analyzed the case and made their decision already, just hours after this was announced. 😂 The efficiency is...

I love it, all the vitard legal experts have analyzed the case and made their decision already, just hours after this was announced. 😂 

The efficiency is amazing. Who need lawyers or judges, we have the vitards.

Yup....    Vital gives good Lynch Mob.   Better than any forum I've ever been on.

Not sticking up for Mirtl....but like I said earlier...."innocent until proven guilty".

 

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1/23/2025 10:10am

I cracked to code on Mirtl's statement, he mistook "embezzled" for "Bedazzled",  he thought he was getting fired for that jacket he's been working on........

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1/23/2025 10:11am Edited Date/Time 1/23/2025 10:12am
I love it, all the vitard legal experts have analyzed the case and made their decision already, just hours after this was announced. 😂 The efficiency is...

I love it, all the vitard legal experts have analyzed the case and made their decision already, just hours after this was announced. 😂 

The efficiency is amazing. Who need lawyers or judges, we have the vitards.

Dude every single one of your posts is acting like you’re somehow above the average vital users yet you sit here and argue with them all the time. You’re no different than anyone on this thread. 

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1/23/2025 10:15am

Now that the Lawrence’s put out their statement, will any other riders Lucas used to work for also put out a statement?

captmoto wrote:
Not sure about contract or business law but if he hasn't ripped off other riders, to fire him preemptively might breach the contract. I'm sure the...

Not sure about contract or business law but if he hasn't ripped off other riders, to fire him preemptively might breach the contract. I'm sure the other riders are digging deep into their accounts now.

I don’t do athlete contracts, but my job is contacts and I’ve never seen a contract that doesn’t have an out for something like this. 

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1/23/2025 10:16am

Maybe that’s why they were a tick off at A-1?


Getting ripped off will mess with your mind, especially if you thought they were family/friend

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1/23/2025 10:17am

From "Super Agent" to Super "Fraudster".     It should be interesting to learn more details on this and how much money was involved. 

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1/23/2025 10:18am Edited Date/Time 1/23/2025 10:19am

This shit is bananas, b a n a n a s. If Wasserman fired him as well, there is definitely something there but we need more facts. Wonder if we are ever getting those details

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1/23/2025 10:18am
truck wrote:
Bet wassermann picked up on something and has been gathering the evidence for a while. No way they drop him that quickly unless they already know...

Bet wassermann picked up on something and has been gathering the evidence for a while. No way they drop him that quickly unless they already know everything there is to know about whatever happened. 

Going to be another story where the moto bros all tell us they heard rumblings a while ago but didn't report anything because reasons..... 

captmoto wrote:
My guess is Mirtl will try to settle. If that happens there is sure to be a non-disclosure agreement and we'll never know.If other riders know...

My guess is Mirtl will try to settle. If that happens there is sure to be a non-disclosure agreement and we'll never know.

If other riders know, they would be wise to keep their mouths closed because if for some reason it come out to be unfounded the they are open to slander charges. 

That's not how slander works. Slander is a false statement. You can freely say what is true

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1/23/2025 10:18am

Probably for not much longer.

Crazy how embezzler's cut off their nose despite their face.

 

He's done.

Minor thing but the saying is “to cut off your nose to spite your face.”

GrapeApe wrote:

This could be a blessing in the sky for the Lawrences' image

Blessing in disguise.

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1/23/2025 10:19am
I love it, all the vitard legal experts have analyzed the case and made their decision already, just hours after this was announced. 😂 The efficiency is...

I love it, all the vitard legal experts have analyzed the case and made their decision already, just hours after this was announced. 😂 

The efficiency is amazing. Who need lawyers or judges, we have the vitards.

Says the Vitard who is commenting about other Vitard's comments...

You better then us, bro? Maybe those classy Facebook moto discussion groups are a better fit for you.

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1/23/2025 10:19am

Minor thing but the saying is “to cut off your nose to spite your face.”

GrapeApe wrote:

This could be a blessing in the sky for the Lawrences' image

Jabe wrote:

Blessing in disguise.

😂

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1/23/2025 10:20am
I love it, all the vitard legal experts have analyzed the case and made their decision already, just hours after this was announced. 😂 The efficiency is...

I love it, all the vitard legal experts have analyzed the case and made their decision already, just hours after this was announced. 😂 

The efficiency is amazing. Who need lawyers or judges, we have the vitards.

Magoofan wrote:
Yup....    Vital gives good Lynch Mob.   Better than any forum I've ever been on.Not sticking up for Mirtl....but like I said earlier...."innocent until proven...

Yup....    Vital gives good Lynch Mob.   Better than any forum I've ever been on.

Not sticking up for Mirtl....but like I said earlier...."innocent until proven guilty".

 

Good thing you don't do social media!  land of make believe

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1/23/2025 10:20am
His response is wild, in many ways. This tiny little statement, lost in all the emotion, defending himself, and other nonsense....is very telling. So, there is...

His response is wild, in many ways. This tiny little statement, lost in all the emotion, defending himself, and other nonsense....is very telling. So, there is a "this" huh? Weird....

I'm my opinion an innocent party, IF they publicly responded at all, would just say something along the lines of "This is a false accusation and the truth will come out"

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I agree. Also,  as far as I know if you have a fiduciary responsibility and are found to have "allegedly" misappropriated funds, most employers are not going to call you ahead of time and let you know. It's you're fired not hey what's up with this. Odd response on his part. 

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1/23/2025 10:22am

dude is cooked. Wasserman/Lawrences are in cahoots with this situation and clearly did their homework via an investigation. Wasserman cans the guy, and already has the replacement agents to cover the Lawrences lickety split. 

Mirtl will either settle with Lawrences fast or he's gonna wake up in a jail cell soon.

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Minor thing but the saying is “to cut off your nose to spite your face.”

GrapeApe wrote:

This could be a blessing in the sky for the Lawrences' image

Jabe wrote:

Blessing in disguise.

ah man thats a killer 😂 gunna take awhile to live that one down GrapeApe

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