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No Kicker Kenny
Wonder if it’s a bike being built for MXoN?
Calls the members dumb, yet acts surprised when greeted with snark.
Maybe some of the members aren't the brightest, but with that take you also put yourself among the lot.
To everybody in this thread:
Larry Brooks did an interview with Swap back in January. He specifically said they had an electric start but ultimately did not use it before the SX season because of the vibration it caused in the engine. Well, here it is. If you don't believe me, go on Youtube and watch it yourself.
Geez, some of you guys are something else.
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Not sure what they are running here but what I do know is that I think the RMZ has the cam chain tensioner on the cylinder while the RMX has it on the head to make room for the starter so its not a simple head swap, also the RMX head design as far as porting and such is lacking in performance a lot compared to the RMZ.
There are all kinds of E-start kits for other bikes out there mainly Japanese two strokes, they aren't that complicated. I bet the hard part is fitting a starter big enough to turn a 450 over in that area of the engine is a pain and all the gears and such are hard to get right. It took KTM a couple generations to get a reliable starter system to work on a two stroke.
Nice, can you post a link and a time stamp to this video so all these clowns who think it's just a simple bolt can STFU?
I remember when Honda made the E-start an option for the 17 model CRF450R (I think it was 17) and they tested them and didn't like the feel or something. It may have been the drag on the starter clutch or extra spinning mass, I don't know. I think it was either Kenny or Brayton that didn't want it back then.
Another image of an RMX that shows that starter in KR's video is NOT an RMX.
I wonder if HEP had to fabricate it themselves since Suzuki has left the building?
I wonder how 10-12 extra pounds will affect it?
Seems like Pantera is the company behind it, same as make the E start for a bunch of other bikes.
They just make a new flywheel cover with a integrated start motor and a flywheel with a start gear on it.
As far as i know there would be zero problems to use that in a AMA series.
Same company did the E start for pastranas cr500 engine in the rmz frame he ran at RBSR
If so good for HEP that they can do something the lazy ass MFG refused to do 4 years ago.
Had to chuckle at some of the replies/down votes you got for basically explaining the situation. This place is a sewer.
I think it's awesome! Who's not cheering for No Kick Kenny???
Yep, pretty easy to spot the know-it-all clowns in this thread who were making all the cute little jokes.
Rickyisms, maybe try watching the video above at the three minute mark to educate yourself and your comedic followers. Several warm plates of crow have been served, again.
Real cute, watch the video above.
Yup I remember this too. I tried looking everywhere but couldnt find it. I remember it was in a video where they said having the kicker was less drag on the engine. All I could find was this mention from mxa:
“Factory Honda racer Ken Roczen was on fire at Budds Creek with a win in the first moto and leading most of the second. He rode great, but was it all Kenny or did the team find something in testing that made the bike work that much better? Kenny’s factory Honda CRF450 during the Budds Creek National was missing the electric starter and a kickstarter was added. But why?
We aren’t sure of all the benefits of removing the e-start, but saving about five pounds would be the obvious reason (and less rotating mass and drag from the gears that make the starter motor work). Here is what Kenny had to say about it in the Budds Creek press conference.
Ken Roczen when asked about the kickstarter: “As of right now we’re gonna do a lot of work, we have a lot of stuff set up for after the last race and obviously Des Nations, a bunch of testing and figuring some stuff out, but for right now I felt more comfortable that way so it helped me out this week for sure.””
https://motocrossactionmag.com/ken-roczen-ditches-his-electric-start-at-budds-creek-why/
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Exactly. The rmx head has cam chain tensioner in head vs cylinder and the ports are different making way less power. I’m sure they tried to port and tune a Rex engine package but it ultimately just couldn’t make enough power. So they had to try a different approach. I feel like that starter motor is very susceptible to damage from roost or a crash but I give them props for trying something. I think at this point on the consumer level people would be willing to take the added 8-10lbs to have the start even if it ends up being a even bigger pig.
Ken's gone with black...
Nobody insinuated bolting it on other than you on the first page, but alright man. I’m glad you think you won or something. Keep on kicking ✌🏻
Haha this is great thread, as someone who works for one of the yellow teams once again, I can only laugh at this forum. Definitely a HEP RMZ450 race bike and engine. Not any part of the RMX was used. LB is a magician and made “something happen.”
Hope it lasts longer than his shock. That was ugly.
Well anyway (and it's been posted like 50 times), I'd be glad to hear one of the guys who wrote "I can't believe why they don't put an RMX starter on" explain us what they do with the cam chain tensioner.
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How to get 1M+ views in under 24 hours? Put an electric start on an RMZ!
Even someone with half-assed vision can see it's not RMX related... Not sure what some of these nuts are looking at.
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Has no one noticed the bike in the video has Twisted Tea graphics and NOT Progressive graphics? I can't remember seeing Roczen ride with TT graphics on his practice bikes.
Maybe LB met up with some Suzuki higher ups to talk about the progress on the e start they have been working with. Could of possibly met with some engineers also.. Im sure we will hear something soon about it.
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