Keefer testing 07 CRF 450 vs 2025 CRF 450

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Im with you on that one. I rode crf450’s in 07-08 in both MX and Enduro and dropped down and rode 250’s in 09.At the fall...

Im with you on that one. I rode crf450’s in 07-08 in both MX and Enduro and dropped down and rode 250’s in 09.

At the fall of 09 i tested the new EFI 450 and liked that bike way better than my 07 and 08 bikes, both engine and chassis. The 09 were stock part from kit suspension and a exhaust. 

Seems like we are a few along with Reed to like the 09-12 chassis better than the 08. 

 

I Think Reed has mentioned in the past that the 12 model was his favorite race bike.  Ben Townley has also mentioned that the 12 model was his favorite race bike as well.  Keefer has said the 12 model is a good solid bike.

Can't remember exactly, maybe in an interview, but Reed mentions that the 15 or 16+ KTM 450 models felt like the 12 CRF450r model. His reaction was that he suspected that it was copied.  Looked for the interview but couldn't find it.              

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add me to the "i loved my '07 CRF 450" group.  

other than my current bike it is hand's down my favorite bike i've ever owned.

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Tumic wrote:
Im with you on that one. I rode crf450’s in 07-08 in both MX and Enduro and dropped down and rode 250’s in 09.At the fall...

Im with you on that one. I rode crf450’s in 07-08 in both MX and Enduro and dropped down and rode 250’s in 09.

At the fall of 09 i tested the new EFI 450 and liked that bike way better than my 07 and 08 bikes, both engine and chassis. The 09 were stock part from kit suspension and a exhaust. 

Seems like we are a few along with Reed to like the 09-12 chassis better than the 08. 

 

H4L wrote:
I Think Reed has mentioned in the past that the 12 model was his favorite race bike.  Ben Townley has also mentioned that the 12 model...

I Think Reed has mentioned in the past that the 12 model was his favorite race bike.  Ben Townley has also mentioned that the 12 model was his favorite race bike as well.  Keefer has said the 12 model is a good solid bike.

Can't remember exactly, maybe in an interview, but Reed mentions that the 15 or 16+ KTM 450 models felt like the 12 CRF450r model. His reaction was that he suspected that it was copied.  Looked for the interview but couldn't find it.              

You might have lliked this bIke my ffriend oowned for a good wwhile. 2010 crf250r wwith 06 cr250 eengine. Had aanother one jjust like it with 06 cr125 eengine.

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Electro21 wrote:
I’m trying to find that exact bike to build. I have a fully rebuilt 07 250R I just finished and another one I’m about to start...

I’m trying to find that exact bike to build. I have a fully rebuilt 07 250R I just finished and another one I’m about to start putting the other one together soon. I’d love to add a 07 450R to the stable. 

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Rickyisms wrote:

I’ve been drooling over that SOB since it’s been posted. That is a well done machine. 

🤣Totally agree! I would love that thing. Really want to get a 450 to go with mine someday soon. That one doesn't look like it needs anything.

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You might have lliked this bIke my ffriend oowned for a good wwhile. 2010 crf250r wwith 06 cr250 eengine. Had aanother one jjust like it with...

You might have lliked this bIke my ffriend oowned for a good wwhile. 2010 crf250r wwith 06 cr250 eengine. Had aanother one jjust like it with 06 cr125 eengine.

Hey Joe.  I think I remember those builds you posted quite a few yrs. back on TT.  Most members didn't understand since they had the CR case reed engines.  I'm a big fan as I don't think they take much to run better than the traditional CR cyl / reed induction fed engine.     

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Tumic wrote:
Im with you on that one. I rode crf450’s in 07-08 in both MX and Enduro and dropped down and rode 250’s in 09.At the fall...

Im with you on that one. I rode crf450’s in 07-08 in both MX and Enduro and dropped down and rode 250’s in 09.

At the fall of 09 i tested the new EFI 450 and liked that bike way better than my 07 and 08 bikes, both engine and chassis. The 09 were stock part from kit suspension and a exhaust. 

Seems like we are a few along with Reed to like the 09-12 chassis better than the 08. 

 

H4L wrote:
I Think Reed has mentioned in the past that the 12 model was his favorite race bike.  Ben Townley has also mentioned that the 12 model...

I Think Reed has mentioned in the past that the 12 model was his favorite race bike.  Ben Townley has also mentioned that the 12 model was his favorite race bike as well.  Keefer has said the 12 model is a good solid bike.

Can't remember exactly, maybe in an interview, but Reed mentions that the 15 or 16+ KTM 450 models felt like the 12 CRF450r model. His reaction was that he suspected that it was copied.  Looked for the interview but couldn't find it.              

I thought Reed was more vocal about his '11 bikes? He was killing it outdoors too that year.

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My '06 450 - it still sports the original tires, grips, bars, etc.

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And no, it's not carbureted, but it's the last generation of the 250R Unicam engines; my '14 250 ~

 

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CrGuy2T wrote:
Anyone have and carbed crf's out there? Let's see them.. I'll go first 2007crf250

Anyone have and carbed crf's out there? Let's see them.. I'll go first 2007crf250

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Damn it. This pic just brought me back. All of a sudden Avenged Sevenfold just started playing in my head.

This just inspired my next project. Damn you. 

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SoCalMX70 wrote:
I thought Reed was more vocal about his '11 bikes? He was killing it outdoors too that year.

I thought Reed was more vocal about his '11 bikes? He was killing it outdoors too that year.

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Possibly? I thought the 11 model was a PC bike with very little factory support.  It wasn't till 12 that he got the factory support & was claiming what a big difference the HRC clamps made on the handling?   

 Behind Bars - Chad Reed's Two Two Motorsports Honda CRF450R - TransWorld Motocross - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_xCNn9VMJI&pp=ygU6QmVoaW5kIGJhcnM6IGNo…

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SoCalMX70 wrote:
I thought Reed was more vocal about his '11 bikes? He was killing it outdoors too that year.

I thought Reed was more vocal about his '11 bikes? He was killing it outdoors too that year.

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H4L wrote:
Possibly? I thought the 11 model was a PC bike with very little factory support.  It wasn't till 12 that he got the factory support &...

Possibly? I thought the 11 model was a PC bike with very little factory support.  It wasn't till 12 that he got the factory support & was claiming what a big difference the HRC clamps made on the handling?   

 Behind Bars - Chad Reed's Two Two Motorsports Honda CRF450R - TransWorld Motocross - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_xCNn9VMJI&pp=ygU6QmVoaW5kIGJhcnM6IGNo…

Almost positive he started getting factory parts half way through SX. He said the biggest difference (must have) was the transmission IIRC.

Still though, maybe it was '12. Those were fun (and devastating) years to be a Reed fan.

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And what is Keefer's verdict?

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I had an '08 and loved it. Extremely stable.

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You might have lliked this bIke my ffriend oowned for a good wwhile. 2010 crf250r wwith 06 cr250 eengine. Had aanother one jjust like it with...

You might have lliked this bIke my ffriend oowned for a good wwhile. 2010 crf250r wwith 06 cr250 eengine. Had aanother one jjust like it with 06 cr125 eengine.

H4L wrote:
Hey Joe.  I think I remember those builds you posted quite a few yrs. back on TT.  Most members didn't understand since they had the CR...

Hey Joe.  I think I remember those builds you posted quite a few yrs. back on TT.  Most members didn't understand since they had the CR case reed engines.  I'm a big fan as I don't think they take much to run better than the traditional CR cyl / reed induction fed engine.     

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This one the case reed eengine was pretty good with a pwk

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My 2008 Honda Crf450.  Bone Stock. Other than pegs. 3E4C4C7D-FA45-4D98-B2FD-558ED8D5DA33.jpeg?VersionId=Sr27SA69B1423-E538-4C08-8205-4726F7B44CCC.jpeg?VersionId=EArSKEIzz2tnpqxADZ

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M1000 wrote:
My 2008 Honda Crf450.  Bone Stock. Other than pegs.

My 2008 Honda Crf450.  Bone Stock. Other than pegs. 3E4C4C7D-FA45-4D98-B2FD-558ED8D5DA33.jpeg?VersionId=Sr27SA69B1423-E538-4C08-8205-4726F7B44CCC.jpeg?VersionId=EArSKEIzz2tnpqxADZ

Exactly......

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M1000 wrote:
My 2008 Honda Crf450.  Bone Stock. Other than pegs.

My 2008 Honda Crf450.  Bone Stock. Other than pegs. 3E4C4C7D-FA45-4D98-B2FD-558ED8D5DA33.jpeg?VersionId=Sr27SA69B1423-E538-4C08-8205-4726F7B44CCC.jpeg?VersionId=EArSKEIzz2tnpqxADZ

That color combo is beautiful wow

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I'm really excited for this video. I never actually owned that gen of Honda but 1 of my best friends had an 08 that I rode all of the time and I just loved it. 1 of my favorite bikes, to this day. I actually really liked the 09-12 450 also, which I am probably in the minority. And I haven't really been a Honda fan since then. Didn't like anything from '13 on. Kind of odd. Now, the '25, that bike I would like to try. It sounds like the chassis I would gel better with, than some of the other recent red bikes. Either way, it would be really cool to ride those both back to back. The video should be really good. I'm happy he actually has a fresh 07 too. 

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M1000 wrote:
My 2008 Honda Crf450.  Bone Stock. Other than pegs.

My 2008 Honda Crf450.  Bone Stock. Other than pegs. 3E4C4C7D-FA45-4D98-B2FD-558ED8D5DA33.jpeg?VersionId=Sr27SA69B1423-E538-4C08-8205-4726F7B44CCC.jpeg?VersionId=EArSKEIzz2tnpqxADZ

Myke wrote:
Exactly...... 

Exactly......

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The 2008 model was available in an all-black Limited Edition.

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Should do an 08 RMZ vs a 24 RMZ

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I had a nice, low hour ‘08 RMZ 450 that I bought and rode regularly in 2018 and I rode it back to back with a...

I had a nice, low hour ‘08 RMZ 450 that I bought and rode regularly in 2018 and I rode it back to back with a friends new 2018 (essentially the ‘25 model) and the ‘08 hands down handles better and has better suspension IMO. The engine has improved on the newest gen and the ‘08 engine just did not rev out. 

In fact, I now have a 2012 RMZ 450 with 11 original hours and I feel that I can ride it just as fast and competitively as any newer 450 that I’ve ridden. ( I raced one in ‘12 also).  It is my favorite bike of all time no question. I had an ‘08 CRF 450 back in ‘08 and I really liked it as well. I would love to ride one again. 

I had an 05 CRF450R and a 12 RMZ and loved them both. The 05 had a ridiculous motor for the day, and the RMZ had...

I had an 05 CRF450R and a 12 RMZ and loved them both. The 05 had a ridiculous motor for the day, and the RMZ had a perfect Vet motor and would turn under anything else. Miss them both!

Wow, I had a 05 CRF and a 11 RMZ. I agree on both counts. I loved them both also. Although I never had to do anything to the Suzuki the three years a had it. The Honda would need the valves adjusted every so often.

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MXer391 wrote:
I had a nice, low hour ‘08 RMZ 450 that I bought and rode regularly in 2018 and I rode it back to back with a...

I had a nice, low hour ‘08 RMZ 450 that I bought and rode regularly in 2018 and I rode it back to back with a friends new 2018 (essentially the ‘25 model) and the ‘08 hands down handles better and has better suspension IMO. The engine has improved on the newest gen and the ‘08 engine just did not rev out. 

In fact, I now have a 2012 RMZ 450 with 11 original hours and I feel that I can ride it just as fast and competitively as any newer 450 that I’ve ridden. ( I raced one in ‘12 also).  It is my favorite bike of all time no question. I had an ‘08 CRF 450 back in ‘08 and I really liked it as well. I would love to ride one again. 

I had an 05 CRF450R and a 12 RMZ and loved them both. The 05 had a ridiculous motor for the day, and the RMZ had...

I had an 05 CRF450R and a 12 RMZ and loved them both. The 05 had a ridiculous motor for the day, and the RMZ had a perfect Vet motor and would turn under anything else. Miss them both!

mumbles wrote:
Wow, I had a 05 CRF and a 11 RMZ. I agree on both counts. I loved them both also. Although I never had to do...

Wow, I had a 05 CRF and a 11 RMZ. I agree on both counts. I loved them both also. Although I never had to do anything to the Suzuki the three years a had it. The Honda would need the valves adjusted every so often.

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That era of CRFs were notorious for collapsing valve seats esp on the intake side. Once they got hot they'd never start since the valves wouldn't close.  Almost everyone had to have Kibble White valves and new seats done. That and the bog were the 2 main issues I dealt with. The RMZ never needed anything but clutch plates and normal wear stuff. 

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Omg I rode my friends 2008 CRF450R and it felt like a two stroke at every rpm... Crazy fast but constant power all through the rpm...

Omg I rode my friends 2008 CRF450R and it felt like a two stroke at every rpm... Crazy fast but constant power all through the rpm rang e

 

Chad Reed still compares every bike he rides to it 

Incorrect 

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Spoonguy wrote:

And what is Keefer's verdict?

He just rode it today, you'll wanna watch the video when it comes out, it's going to be interesting...

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LOL "Bone Stock" is just as misused as "literally" these days.

 

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Was lucky to park close enough to get a sense of rider reactions today at GH for this epic test - Nearly everyone that got off the track after riding the 2007 had a big arse grin on their face! Appeared to start first kick for the round-robin of testers, sounded great in the pits, and was even cleaner in person than photos do it justice. The MX3S front tire and 110/90-19 MX34 rear were definitely updates over current MX33 tires (120/80-19 rear) on modern CRF’s, but seemed to be a good comparison nonetheless. Patiently waiting for the official verdict!

 

PS: If you have an 05’-08’ CRF450R for sale and it’s not currently moving, this test alone may increase your selling power…

 

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CrGuy2T wrote:
Anyone have and carbed crf's out there? Let's see them.. I'll go first 2007crf250

Anyone have and carbed crf's out there? Let's see them.. I'll go first 2007crf250

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I regret selling my 07 250 and picking up a 250 2T. The CRF was vet owned with a lot of goodies. I barely put any hours on it. Just needed to get the suspension resprung for my weight.

8/15/2024 7:30pm

My first big-bore was a brand new ‘06 CRF250R, four bikes later and I now have a ‘23 CRF250R, and I often think about how much faster and more confident I was on the ‘06. Sure, I was 16 or so at the time so that probably plays into the speed aspect, but I remember it feeling so much lighter and flickable than the ‘23 I have now. Felt like I could put it anywhere, where now I feel like I have to be more deliberate with corner entry.

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SoCalMX70 wrote:
I thought Reed was more vocal about his '11 bikes? He was killing it outdoors too that year.

I thought Reed was more vocal about his '11 bikes? He was killing it outdoors too that year.

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H4L wrote:
Possibly? I thought the 11 model was a PC bike with very little factory support.  It wasn't till 12 that he got the factory support &...

Possibly? I thought the 11 model was a PC bike with very little factory support.  It wasn't till 12 that he got the factory support & was claiming what a big difference the HRC clamps made on the handling?   

 Behind Bars - Chad Reed's Two Two Motorsports Honda CRF450R - TransWorld Motocross - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_xCNn9VMJI&pp=ygU6QmVoaW5kIGJhcnM6IGNo…

'12 was when he came out absolutely flying in sx. He was on the podium 5 out of 7 rounds until he had that nasty getoff dicing with RV. That was the last year i really felt lIke he was going to win the title

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They are such great bikes!

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