Chase, KTM, and the media.

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Obviously Chase has been slow to get up to speed on the KTM. My point of this thread isnt whether its the bike, or Chase or a combo. That is what it is. But I'm finding it very weird and off-putting just how much "Chase, how is the bike" talk there is. Its literally all anyone talks about.

"Chase, you rode good today, does that mean you found something with the bike?".

"Chase, you seemed to a little off today, are you struggling on the bike with this type of dirt?"

I totally understand why people ask, and I appreciate the fact that Chase is willing to discuss it, but for shit's sake, lets talk about something else. Do we hear all this bike talk with Anderson, or Kenny, or anyone else? The narrative around Chase and the KTM almost makes it seem like Chase is on some sort of reality TV show where he agreed to develop some sort of hand built prototype bike and walk us through the process. This is not going to end well for Chase or KTM. If people thought it was a bad look when Webb left mid season to Yamaha, just wait until this relationship with Chase and KTM ends. I wouldn't be surprised if he has already signed with another team for 2026. I am a huge Chase fan, and KTM is my personal bike of choice more often then not, but looking at this objectively, this deal with him and the brand is a huge shit show. 

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6/16/2024 11:20am

I’m not convinced it’s the bike.  

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6/16/2024 11:22am
hartebreak wrote:
Obviously Chase has been slow to get up to speed on the KTM. My point of this thread isnt whether its the bike, or Chase or...

Obviously Chase has been slow to get up to speed on the KTM. My point of this thread isnt whether its the bike, or Chase or a combo. That is what it is. But I'm finding it very weird and off-putting just how much "Chase, how is the bike" talk there is. Its literally all anyone talks about.

"Chase, you rode good today, does that mean you found something with the bike?".

"Chase, you seemed to a little off today, are you struggling on the bike with this type of dirt?"

I totally understand why people ask, and I appreciate the fact that Chase is willing to discuss it, but for shit's sake, lets talk about something else. Do we hear all this bike talk with Anderson, or Kenny, or anyone else? The narrative around Chase and the KTM almost makes it seem like Chase is on some sort of reality TV show where he agreed to develop some sort of hand built prototype bike and walk us through the process. This is not going to end well for Chase or KTM. If people thought it was a bad look when Webb left mid season to Yamaha, just wait until this relationship with Chase and KTM ends. I wouldn't be surprised if he has already signed with another team for 2026. I am a huge Chase fan, and KTM is my personal bike of choice more often then not, but looking at this objectively, this deal with him and the brand is a huge shit show. 

Yeah it’s super weird to me as well. I think it’s because there is seemingly no reason at all for him to not be winning literally everything, so everyone just assumes that it has to be the bike. 

After the past two weeks though, I honestly just think he gets stupid in the head and fucks up. As harsh as that is, I don’t know what else it could be. How many times can we see the same thing, over and over again, and not start to think that it’s a purely Chase issue?

I love the guy, he’s one of my favorite riders. I just don’t know what else it could be at this point. It’s the same mistakes over and over again. 

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6/16/2024 11:35am

I’m not convinced it’s the bike.  

It wasn't the Honda 

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I’m not convinced it’s the bike.  

HonTech23 wrote:

It wasn't the Honda 

It’s not the ktm or Honda. The bike was perfect they said second Moto at Hangtown of course he won. When he’s not winning it’s the bike not him lol. U put Jett on the ktm he still wins 

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6/16/2024 11:43am

It never was the Bike.

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6/16/2024 11:45am

I’m not convinced it’s the bike.  

HonTech23 wrote:

It wasn't the Honda 

Money wrote:
It’s not the ktm or Honda. The bike was perfect they said second Moto at Hangtown of course he won. When he’s not winning it’s the...

It’s not the ktm or Honda. The bike was perfect they said second Moto at Hangtown of course he won. When he’s not winning it’s the bike not him lol. U put Jett on the ktm he still wins 

That's what I'm saying, everyone blamed the bike all last year while Jett rung his bell

Then this year, new hike and he still can't put it together if Jett is healthy and doesn't kill himself.

It was never the Honda 

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6/16/2024 11:52am

What else are they going to ask him about?

"So Chase, do you love Ando after he he pulled that douche move on Jett?"

"So Chase, why do you think you crash more often than not?"

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6/16/2024 11:52am

It would be interesting to see Jett on a steel framed bike.  Would it be the same- same results as the Honda.  Or something else.  

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What else are they going to ask him about? "So Chase, do you love Ando after he he pulled that douche move on Jett?" "So Chase...

What else are they going to ask him about?

"So Chase, do you love Ando after he he pulled that douche move on Jett?"

"So Chase, why do you think you crash more often than not?"

I would like to see both questions asked lol

He's actually been asked the crash question plenty of times but this year yes there seems to be an obsession with the setup stuff. I'd be more sympathetic if it wasn't for the talk of bike being great after hangtown.

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What else are they going to ask him about? "So Chase, do you love Ando after he he pulled that douche move on Jett?" "So Chase...

What else are they going to ask him about?

"So Chase, do you love Ando after he he pulled that douche move on Jett?"

"So Chase, why do you think you crash more often than not?"

truck wrote:
I would like to see both questions asked lol He's actually been asked the crash question plenty of times but this year yes there seems to...

I would like to see both questions asked lol

He's actually been asked the crash question plenty of times but this year yes there seems to be an obsession with the setup stuff. I'd be more sympathetic if it wasn't for the talk of bike being great after hangtown.

Go back and watch that second moto, the bike looked fucking terrible just about everywhere. He just rode the ever loving shit out of it with aggression and anger, something he should learn to harness 

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6/16/2024 12:28pm

He picked up exactly where he left off ,just a tick slower then jett. Why did everyone think he was going to faster then last year.

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hartebreak wrote:
Obviously Chase has been slow to get up to speed on the KTM. My point of this thread isnt whether its the bike, or Chase or...

Obviously Chase has been slow to get up to speed on the KTM. My point of this thread isnt whether its the bike, or Chase or a combo. That is what it is. But I'm finding it very weird and off-putting just how much "Chase, how is the bike" talk there is. Its literally all anyone talks about.

"Chase, you rode good today, does that mean you found something with the bike?".

"Chase, you seemed to a little off today, are you struggling on the bike with this type of dirt?"

I totally understand why people ask, and I appreciate the fact that Chase is willing to discuss it, but for shit's sake, lets talk about something else. Do we hear all this bike talk with Anderson, or Kenny, or anyone else? The narrative around Chase and the KTM almost makes it seem like Chase is on some sort of reality TV show where he agreed to develop some sort of hand built prototype bike and walk us through the process. This is not going to end well for Chase or KTM. If people thought it was a bad look when Webb left mid season to Yamaha, just wait until this relationship with Chase and KTM ends. I wouldn't be surprised if he has already signed with another team for 2026. I am a huge Chase fan, and KTM is my personal bike of choice more often then not, but looking at this objectively, this deal with him and the brand is a huge shit show. 

Guessing all of the above 

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6/16/2024 12:55pm

I think the question is asked because everyone knows his potential but he hasn't been "consistent".

The bike has something to do with it but mostly he "has a hole in his swing".  In my recollection most of his crashes are a result of tucking or pushing the front.

If he can find and fix what he's doing that is causing it...Jett should be worried.

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6/16/2024 1:00pm

I’m a big fan of Chase. And I want to see someone beat Jett. But so far, Chase is not able to go the speed Jett can without crashing. It’s not an anomaly. There have been a lot of riders like this. Trey Canard and Adam Cianciarulo hauled ass too. But they couldn’t keep it off the ground. Luckily Chase doesn’t get hurt as much but it’s no different. All of us can ride over our heads and go faster, but it might only be for a lap or 2. Maybe one race. But it’s not consistent or sustainable

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He picked up exactly where he left off ,just a tick slower then jett. Why did everyone think he was going to faster then last year.

It's a story because at his best he isn't slower than Jett. He can ride with him, push him, etc..... if the entire story was just that on his good days he runs with Jett and on his bad days he is just off the pace and finishing on the podium, it wouldn't be very interesting. But instead on his bad days he has ridiculous crashes, looks rough, acts like bike is a nightmare, etc..... I'm a chase fan and feel like I'm in an abusive relationship riding this roller coaster with him sometimes. 

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hartebreak wrote:
Obviously Chase has been slow to get up to speed on the KTM. My point of this thread isnt whether its the bike, or Chase or...

Obviously Chase has been slow to get up to speed on the KTM. My point of this thread isnt whether its the bike, or Chase or a combo. That is what it is. But I'm finding it very weird and off-putting just how much "Chase, how is the bike" talk there is. Its literally all anyone talks about.

"Chase, you rode good today, does that mean you found something with the bike?".

"Chase, you seemed to a little off today, are you struggling on the bike with this type of dirt?"

I totally understand why people ask, and I appreciate the fact that Chase is willing to discuss it, but for shit's sake, lets talk about something else. Do we hear all this bike talk with Anderson, or Kenny, or anyone else? The narrative around Chase and the KTM almost makes it seem like Chase is on some sort of reality TV show where he agreed to develop some sort of hand built prototype bike and walk us through the process. This is not going to end well for Chase or KTM. If people thought it was a bad look when Webb left mid season to Yamaha, just wait until this relationship with Chase and KTM ends. I wouldn't be surprised if he has already signed with another team for 2026. I am a huge Chase fan, and KTM is my personal bike of choice more often then not, but looking at this objectively, this deal with him and the brand is a huge shit show. 

Yeah it’s super weird to me as well. I think it’s because there is seemingly no reason at all for him to not be winning literally...

Yeah it’s super weird to me as well. I think it’s because there is seemingly no reason at all for him to not be winning literally everything, so everyone just assumes that it has to be the bike. 

After the past two weeks though, I honestly just think he gets stupid in the head and fucks up. As harsh as that is, I don’t know what else it could be. How many times can we see the same thing, over and over again, and not start to think that it’s a purely Chase issue?

I love the guy, he’s one of my favorite riders. I just don’t know what else it could be at this point. It’s the same mistakes over and over again. 

There’s two reasons he’s not winning it all. Jett and Hunter. 

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6/16/2024 1:11pm

The media likes to beat a dead horse. When Jett was undefeated they asked every rider 50 times what it was going to take to beat him.  The media doesn’t make their only stories by asking genuine questions. Just the same regurgitated crap.

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6/16/2024 1:21pm

I’m not convinced it’s the bike.  

HonTech23 wrote:

It wasn't the Honda 

Money wrote:
It’s not the ktm or Honda. The bike was perfect they said second Moto at Hangtown of course he won. When he’s not winning it’s the...

It’s not the ktm or Honda. The bike was perfect they said second Moto at Hangtown of course he won. When he’s not winning it’s the bike not him lol. U put Jett on the ktm he still wins 

Nobody said that bike was good after the second moto at Hangtown. If fact, AP said it wasn’t good at all and it’s why he was so tired at the end of the moto. 

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6/16/2024 1:22pm

He's mental. Jett lives rent free in his head....

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6/16/2024 1:27pm Edited Date/Time 6/16/2024 1:33pm

His issue is mental. Always has been. Even when he raced Eli. I think the main reason he left Honda was so that he didn’t have to share a tent with Jett. All the talk about the bike was to save face.

Chase was faster than Jett a few times last year, (i.e. Spring Creek, Budds Creek, and arguably Washougal), and he was clearly faster in Moto 2 yesterday, but the moment becomes too overwhelming for him and he chokes pretty much every time. It’s called being a headcase. And Jett gets in his head bad. He looks afraid to beat Jett, even when he is faster than Jett. That’s evidence that Jett is in his head. If Chase learns to ride his own race start to finish, and not think about his competition, I think we will see more Hangtown type all-time performances. Otherwise, it’s gonna be a what-could-have-been career.

 

*I just want to add that I am a big fan of Chase, I want to see him do well. I’m not hating. Just being real.

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6/16/2024 1:41pm

                Chase Sexton is the new Kevin Wyndham.

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6/16/2024 1:45pm
hartebreak wrote:
Obviously Chase has been slow to get up to speed on the KTM. My point of this thread isnt whether its the bike, or Chase or...

Obviously Chase has been slow to get up to speed on the KTM. My point of this thread isnt whether its the bike, or Chase or a combo. That is what it is. But I'm finding it very weird and off-putting just how much "Chase, how is the bike" talk there is. Its literally all anyone talks about.

"Chase, you rode good today, does that mean you found something with the bike?".

"Chase, you seemed to a little off today, are you struggling on the bike with this type of dirt?"

I totally understand why people ask, and I appreciate the fact that Chase is willing to discuss it, but for shit's sake, lets talk about something else. Do we hear all this bike talk with Anderson, or Kenny, or anyone else? The narrative around Chase and the KTM almost makes it seem like Chase is on some sort of reality TV show where he agreed to develop some sort of hand built prototype bike and walk us through the process. This is not going to end well for Chase or KTM. If people thought it was a bad look when Webb left mid season to Yamaha, just wait until this relationship with Chase and KTM ends. I wouldn't be surprised if he has already signed with another team for 2026. I am a huge Chase fan, and KTM is my personal bike of choice more often then not, but looking at this objectively, this deal with him and the brand is a huge shit show. 

It’s not “literally” all anyone talks about. I hate that word so much, 

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                Chase Sexton is the new Kevin Wyndham.

Windham doesn't have a big bike championship 

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                Chase Sexton is the new Kevin Wyndham.

Only if you mean they may both be playing second fiddle to a phenom.  Kevin wasn't known as a crasher or headcase.

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6/16/2024 2:19pm

It might be the bike. 
 

But whose job is it to develop and dial in the bike??

It’s Chase’s Fault they aren’t winning. 
 

Dazzy L even told us earlier this year- words to the effect of;

”the previous team riders really didn’t get the bike dialled in good”

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6/16/2024 2:43pm

I had this conversation watching this weekend. 
  That looked like a similar Honda front end wash. I hope he figures it out and just rides. It’s not Jett it’s just another thing in my way should be the thinking. Of course when you are at a high heart rate at the tip of the spear, racing the freak. Easier said than done. 

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I agree that there is a mental component to this, but to say Jett is in his head seems like a reach. To say he's intimidated or scared of the moment doesn't seem accurate either. He was having the same issues when tomac was his main competition and he beat tomac often. 

I don't think the issue has anything to do with other riders, I think it has everything to do with comfort and knowing the limits of his bike. Doesn't seem to be any middle ground between hating his setup and not being able to push, and pushing it beyond what his bike is capable of and ending up on the ground. He just needs to figure out how to feel comfortable on a bike and know what the limits are as that seems to be the root of most of his issues. 

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truck wrote:
It's a story because at his best he isn't slower than Jett. He can ride with him, push him, etc..... if the entire story was just...

It's a story because at his best he isn't slower than Jett. He can ride with him, push him, etc..... if the entire story was just that on his good days he runs with Jett and on his bad days he is just off the pace and finishing on the podium, it wouldn't be very interesting. But instead on his bad days he has ridiculous crashes, looks rough, acts like bike is a nightmare, etc..... I'm a chase fan and feel like I'm in an abusive relationship riding this roller coaster with him sometimes. 

At his best? I don't ever remember him beating jett straight up.

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The media likes to beat a dead horse. When Jett was undefeated they asked every rider 50 times what it was going to take to beat...

The media likes to beat a dead horse. When Jett was undefeated they asked every rider 50 times what it was going to take to beat him.  The media doesn’t make their only stories by asking genuine questions. Just the same regurgitated crap.

This. It’s just Gypsy that ask some new questions at the post race press conference sometimes.

The rest of the media just ask the same lame questions each weekend going on repeat. 

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I think Jett is in his head along with buckling under pressure to ride above his comfort zone. Couldn't believe the finish of the 2nd moto when Jett almost stopped at the finish line and looked back at Chase only to have Chase stall it at the last corner... 

Jett is in his head...

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