Hangtown is looking sexy!

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It was 94 Monday when we were riding. Even that was manageable compared to the 102 ride days last summer. Unloading the bikes at 8:30am and...

It was 94 Monday when we were riding. Even that was manageable compared to the 102 ride days last summer. Unloading the bikes at 8:30am and it was already 92. Any highs above 98 and I’m out this summer. 

JM485 wrote:
Keep in mind Hangtown is literally in the middle of a dirt pit that radiates heat, if the temperature is 86 in the surrounding towns it’s...

Keep in mind Hangtown is literally in the middle of a dirt pit that radiates heat, if the temperature is 86 in the surrounding towns it’s likely close to 100 down at the actual track.  Throw in the humidity from the water on the track and it can be miserably hot out there even in sub triple digits.  

Humidity from the track being watered? That's a new one for me Woohoo

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aeffertz wrote:

Oh no, I’ve summoned the “you think that temperature is hot/cold” people.  I’m sorry. 

jnickell wrote:
It's all relative...  I was just in Maui and 80 degrees feels considerably hotter than 80 in Sacramento. I grew up in Redding, CA where it...

It's all relative...  I was just in Maui and 80 degrees feels considerably hotter than 80 in Sacramento. I grew up in Redding, CA where it hits 105 to 110 on the regular and I was choking on the early morning heat (actually the humidity) in Oklahoma when I was in the military. So yeah, 87 is not "hot" in Sac.  Though it is close.

aeffertz wrote:
No, I get it. We get 90% humidity 90 degree days in the summer and -30 degree winters here as well. It's just funny and honestly...

No, I get it. We get 90% humidity 90 degree days in the summer and -30 degree winters here as well. It's just funny and honestly kind of strange how whenever you mention heat, cold or any sort of weather, there's always a group of people that want to brag how much gnarlier their weather is. 

90 degrees in the sun is still warm, I don't care if you dig ditches in 110 degrees during the summer. Like what are we suppose to say to them? "Cool dude, you've been outside in a hotter temp. Congrats, very proud of you. They should probably wear snow coats this weekend!"

It makes some people feel better to be a bigger victim of circumstances than others. Some sort of serotonin hit or something.

"I totally suffer more than you do!"

 

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Someone should tell them to irrigate with water not Brawndo. Yes, the stuff from the toilet.

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Sand is the new wood chips.

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Am I the only one who is a little confused by the people who run this sport's infatuation with sand? 

I agree. Some of the best recent races at Hangtown are when they didn't try to rip it deep. Let it be choppy and tricky and fast.

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CPR wrote:
Track looks great and there’s been some awesome races there over the years. However forgive my ignorance with not knowing the area, but around the track...

Track looks great and there’s been some awesome races there over the years.
However forgive my ignorance with not knowing the area, but around the track looks like a moonscape!
Is it usually that bad? Is it extra dry there?

The track is on the edge of the central valley, and this is the start of the dry season in California.  Probably won't rain again until late September/October.  6 weeks ago all of that grass would have been bright green, and just a few miles up the road it starts getting wooded, with thick pine forests only 20 or 30 miles east.  Its not a desert, the area actually gets 25 inches of rain a year with many lakes and rivers nearby, and just a bit further east of the track they get 40 to 50 inches a year as you get further up into the foothills... 

 

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5/30/2024 6:37am

People feel this way about Hangtown because we used to go Glen Helen and nothing really tops it in California. 

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Don't let Rich Taylor near that place!!!!

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alphado wrote:

Sand is the new wood chips.

Rice hulls

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alphado wrote:

Sand is the new wood chips.

Beats the poop chips.

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Is that was is considered sexy these days?

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Is that was is considered sexy these days?

Looks like the surface of Mars with a track dozed in.

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5/30/2024 9:41am

I wish they would bring back the half pipe thing they did by the finish line....that thing was cool!

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5/30/2024 10:07am

Am I the only one who is a little confused by the people who run this sport's infatuation with sand? 

Have you rode there? It holds no moisture without adding sand.

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5/30/2024 11:08am Edited Date/Time 5/30/2024 11:09am
CDA331 wrote:
I’ve always hated Hangtown. Growing up 15 minutes away and racing there my entire childhood I always thought it was the driest, hottest biggest crap hole...

I’ve always hated Hangtown. Growing up 15 minutes away and racing there my entire childhood I always thought it was the driest, hottest biggest crap hole in a field that’s ever existed. But, it was always great to go up by the big double at the top of the hill to sit where you can see dang near the entire track. It’s just so ugly, and at least when I was racing on it it was so hard packed, Like riding on concrete. I always just wanted to go to Turlock, Marysville, Livermore, etc. 

 

I wish they would get rid of it, take it off the circuit, but unless someone buys the land out there, I’m sure it’ll stay

ProKawi24 wrote:
What's up Josh! I remember in the morning right after prep it was always ripped pretty deep and bogged down our mini bikes but 1-2 hours...

What's up Josh! I remember in the morning right after prep it was always ripped pretty deep and bogged down our mini bikes but 1-2 hours later it was hard as concrete and you could see tire marks in some turns, most of my injuries came from there. I came up just a hair short on that uphill double once clipping my back wheel and next thing I remember I was sitting on the couch at home lol. It was the worst dirt around for sure, I think Livermore was by far the best.  We spun so many laps out at Hangtown to this day I can remember every inch of that old layout.  This revamped layout and dirt looks incredible though I wish it was like that back when we raced. 

Did we race in the same class out at Hangtown? I mostly remember us riding together at Marysville. 

It's crazy to me how different local guys can have such different perspectives and opinions on tracks! To me Livermore (Club Moto) has some of the worst "dirt" in the area. Like weird clay with 30% wood chips thrown in, develops a couple ruts and if you go outside those, you're screwed.


If you're talking E Street in Marysville, I can get on board, but Riverfront would turn into a blue groove and dusty rutted nightmare on Golden State days.

Oatfield had the best dirt but nowhere near big enough for a legit national.

I've been around long enough to have raced at the old stadium track at Sacramento Raceway, so maybe I just aged myself compared to you guys!

And to the dude who thinks it's crazy to talk about added humidity from watering a track, I guess you've never experienced the Hangtown track down in that bowl on a hot summer day. It definitely changes the environment. 

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5/30/2024 11:43am

I remember the stadium at sac raceway by the start of the drag strip! I also remember the hangtown mudder. And unfortunately, I remember the all the hot effing days after that and don't feel the need to go there on race day anymore. If there's ever unsettled weather in the forecast, that's when I'll go again. 

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Track looks sweet and 100x better than Pala but being from the Midwest always amazed with 0 green space on these tracks out west 

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5/30/2024 12:11pm Edited Date/Time 5/30/2024 12:12pm
yak651 wrote:

Track looks sweet and 100x better than Pala but being from the Midwest always amazed with 0 green space on these tracks out west 

You dont see all that green grass and those 2 lakes ? heavy sarcasmWink

on a seriouse note,  anxious to see how the track races this weekend.    

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Cali tracks and high elevation dirt is garbage. I cant stand these SX races at high elevation bc they just cant keep moisture in the dirt...

Cali tracks and high elevation dirt is garbage. I cant stand these SX races at high elevation bc they just cant keep moisture in the dirt.

 

That being said, this is why this revamp looks so badass, even if it blows away after qualifying.

Did you reply to your own thread on a different account? 

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Mudd801 wrote:
You dont see all that green grass and those 2 lakes ? heavy sarcasm on a seriouse note,  anxious to see how the track races this...

You dont see all that green grass and those 2 lakes ? heavy sarcasmWink

on a seriouse note,  anxious to see how the track races this weekend.    

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just. couldn't. resist. 

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These dustbowl Cali tracks always look sad, even with the signage up on race day they look sad.  

As an east coaster who now lives in Cali, I agree. Hangtown is not a visually appealing facility. It’s for sure a national caliber track, but the visuals aren’t great. 

The issue is just that all California tracks are in the ugly high dez or valley. 

A national at Mammoth would be a cool event. I think the issue there though is Semi-hauler parking though. 

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JM485 wrote:
Now THAT looks like a fun track, can't wait to try it out on amateur day then have the pros show me just how bad I...

Now THAT looks like a fun track, can't wait to try it out on amateur day then have the pros show me just how bad I suck on Saturday Laughing.

Hell yeah! I could roll the shit outa those jumps!!! 

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These dustbowl Cali tracks always look sad, even with the signage up on race day they look sad.  

chasetwo79 wrote:
As an east coaster who now lives in Cali, I agree. Hangtown is not a visually appealing facility. It’s for sure a national caliber track, but...

As an east coaster who now lives in Cali, I agree. Hangtown is not a visually appealing facility. It’s for sure a national caliber track, but the visuals aren’t great. 

The issue is just that all California tracks are in the ugly high dez or valley. 

A national at Mammoth would be a cool event. I think the issue there though is Semi-hauler parking though. 

Have a National race on Easter and it’s all green and wet.

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It's cool to see some pretty big track changes for this year that should hopefully help with more passing opportunities.

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GrapeApe wrote:

Someone should tell them to irrigate with water not Brawndo. Yes, the stuff from the toilet.

But.. It’s what tracks want! 

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5/30/2024 12:49pm
byke wrote:
I remember the stadium at sac raceway by the start of the drag strip! I also remember the hangtown mudder. And unfortunately, I remember the all...

I remember the stadium at sac raceway by the start of the drag strip! I also remember the hangtown mudder. And unfortunately, I remember the all the hot effing days after that and don't feel the need to go there on race day anymore. If there's ever unsettled weather in the forecast, that's when I'll go again. 

Same, man! I was planning on taking my son's to the race this year to see Tomac and Jett in person, but Tomac being out just made me pass. These days the coverage is just good enough to not go.
I was there for the 91 mudder also, what a day.
Watching the Vohland brothers on that stadium track was something I'll never forget. First time I ever saw someone blitz whoops...mind blowing experience.
Back to the layout this year, I see a lot of potential there, but no matter what the second motos are going to be brutal with all that sand added. 

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5/30/2024 1:33pm Edited Date/Time 5/30/2024 1:34pm

Being a Tomac fan, were you there when the 243 won his first pro race? I was big into photography back then and he made that day A LOT of fun, back when the track ran literally right up to the fence on the far right side going up the hill...

 

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5/30/2024 1:39pm

that’s going to end up being a slot car race should make for fantastic racing 🙄

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After riding practice today here are a few takeaways:

 

1. I suck

 

2. There's a lot of sand, definitely more than years past but it will get mixed in a bit throughout the amateur racing tomorrow.  The sand isn't everywhere though and there will still be some hardpacked sections, so the variety might make for some interesting tire choices.

 

3. The Fly triple is BIG, I don't know how big exactly but I was in 4th on my YZ250 giving it about all it had to get over it.  It's built well though, when you get over the size it's a super fun jump but damn was it scary the first time haha.

 

4. There are actually some kind of old school feeling sections to the track, most notably in the sandier sections after the first corner and coming down the first hill.  They built some really large rolling features in those areas that aren't really jumps, just kind of big sandy mounds.    

 

5.  I'm very curious to see what the pro do through the uphill rollers.  I never found a good rhythm through them today with the limited track time we had so I want to see how they tackle it, they're all kind of oddly sized and spaced

 

6. Did I mention that I was reminded just how bad I suck at this riding thing?

 

Overall I love the track, this actually feels like a pro level track that's very challenging to ride and tests you in a lot of different ways.  If our local tracks weren't glorified vet freeways it probably wouldn't seem so crazy but it was really refreshing and fun to ride something that made you think about how you approach it, looking forward to the races tomorrow.      

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