Lamecross or Nationals?

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I hate to say it but Lamecross is where we are these days. Horrible production, cookie cutter tracks that are the same week after week and overall just boring. You have to brightest talent in generations and we truly don’t even get to see his potential because we have Lamecross. A watered down version of what it used to be. Just boring 

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Zycki11
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5/5/2024 9:43am

I will add, did anyone notice that Feld and the AMA stepped up when they heard about WSX with the purses? Now they have zero competition again. Damn shame 

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The tracks are ridiculous. Compared to a few years ago we probably use 30% less dirt.  

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Supercross is a good warm up until american real racing starts in Pala in May, Worldwide real racing started a few months ago, can't beat 30+2 outdoors, thats a fact

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Everything Mx/Sx peaked late 80”s through early 2000”s…with 90”s likely being the best tracks,  bikes and racing. 125 and 250 2 strokes are perfect fir Sx… 450”s are way too much for Sx… glad I witnessed all the greatness….

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sandman768 wrote:
Everything Mx/Sx peaked late 80”s through early 2000”s…with 90”s likely being the best tracks,  bikes and racing. 125 and 250 2 strokes are perfect fir Sx...

Everything Mx/Sx peaked late 80”s through early 2000”s…with 90”s likely being the best tracks,  bikes and racing. 125 and 250 2 strokes are perfect fir Sx… 450”s are way too much for Sx… glad I witnessed all the greatness….

90's were the best.

Alice in chains

LA riots

McGrath

President getting blow jobs

OBS Chevys with duel exhaust from the factory 

Every car had multiple ash trays

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5/5/2024 10:21am

At the risk of beating a dead horse, see my post in the verbal diarrhea thread.

 

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Zycki11
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Magoofan wrote:

At the risk of beating a dead horse, see my post in the verbal diarrhea thread.

 

I will say this, it isn’t beating a dead horse until improvement is made. Until then, it is constructive criticism 

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sandman768 wrote:
Everything Mx/Sx peaked late 80”s through early 2000”s…with 90”s likely being the best tracks,  bikes and racing. 125 and 250 2 strokes are perfect fir Sx...

Everything Mx/Sx peaked late 80”s through early 2000”s…with 90”s likely being the best tracks,  bikes and racing. 125 and 250 2 strokes are perfect fir Sx… 450”s are way too much for Sx… glad I witnessed all the greatness….

Sandusky26 wrote:
90's were the best. Alice in chains LA riots McGrath President getting blow jobs OBS Chevys with duel exhaust from the factory  Every car had multiple...

90's were the best.

Alice in chains

LA riots

McGrath

President getting blow jobs

OBS Chevys with duel exhaust from the factory 

Every car had multiple ash trays

Still rockin an OBS Chevy, 2 door 97 Z-71………ashtray never been used!!

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Supercross is a good "cabin fever reliever" during the winter until the real racing starts in May. Unfortunately by the time May gets here, the field of riders has been decimated due to riders getting hurt racing or training for Supercross. I'd like to see the AMA put more emphasis on the outdoor series and less on Supercross. 

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sandman768 wrote:
Everything Mx/Sx peaked late 80”s through early 2000”s…with 90”s likely being the best tracks,  bikes and racing. 125 and 250 2 strokes are perfect fir Sx...

Everything Mx/Sx peaked late 80”s through early 2000”s…with 90”s likely being the best tracks,  bikes and racing. 125 and 250 2 strokes are perfect fir Sx… 450”s are way too much for Sx… glad I witnessed all the greatness….

Sandusky26 wrote:
90's were the best. Alice in chains LA riots McGrath President getting blow jobs OBS Chevys with duel exhaust from the factory  Every car had multiple...

90's were the best.

Alice in chains

LA riots

McGrath

President getting blow jobs

OBS Chevys with duel exhaust from the factory 

Every car had multiple ash trays

wwdiii wrote:

Still rockin an OBS Chevy, 2 door 97 Z-71………ashtray never been used!!

That thing is worth more than it's weight in gold.

I had a 98 with 300,000. It was a total piece of shit/my favorite truck

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5/5/2024 10:50am Edited Date/Time 5/5/2024 10:50am

Almost all of the core fans of the sport prefer outdoors. Supercross pays the bills though. 
 

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1997 is considered OBS..?

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5/5/2024 11:01am

They also ruined the Nationals going to 30-minute motos from 40.

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byke wrote:

1997 is considered OBS..?

That's what I was gonna say. Wtf are these guys on about?

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Never been into supercross that much anyway, just watch it because there's nothing else in the winter time. But yes the tracks have been pretty bad compared to a few years ago. I never really complain much about the broadcasts but they got to get rid of Ricky, his voice and mumbling on words are not great.

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sandman768 wrote:
Everything Mx/Sx peaked late 80”s through early 2000”s…with 90”s likely being the best tracks,  bikes and racing. 125 and 250 2 strokes are perfect fir Sx...

Everything Mx/Sx peaked late 80”s through early 2000”s…with 90”s likely being the best tracks,  bikes and racing. 125 and 250 2 strokes are perfect fir Sx… 450”s are way too much for Sx… glad I witnessed all the greatness….

Sandusky26 wrote:
90's were the best. Alice in chains LA riots McGrath President getting blow jobs OBS Chevys with duel exhaust from the factory  Every car had multiple...

90's were the best.

Alice in chains

LA riots

McGrath

President getting blow jobs

OBS Chevys with duel exhaust from the factory 

Every car had multiple ash trays

Incredible era

Only a matter of time until we have presidents GIVING blowjobs 😂

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5/5/2024 11:22am Edited Date/Time 5/5/2024 3:38pm

Im over supercross as soon as MXGP starts. Outdoors is where it's at for me, bring on the  ama nationals.

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5/5/2024 11:38am Edited Date/Time 5/5/2024 11:38am
studworx wrote:

The tracks are ridiculous. Compared to a few years ago we probably use 30% less dirt.  

Everything to do with supercross is getting/already is ridiculous, parking prices, broadcast, tracks. What happened to the gnarly cupped out whoops and gnarly tracks from 2022 and earlier? We need more dirt to build better tracks, not whatever the hell this series was this year. On top of that, the broadcast isn't helping at all, ricky needs to be fired, same for Leigh and Will, and even Bondo. We want to see actual racing and hear the bikes, this year has been a big let down track and broadcast wise. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk Smile

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Zycki11 wrote:
I hate to say it but Lamecross is where we are these days. Horrible production, cookie cutter tracks that are the same week after week and...

I hate to say it but Lamecross is where we are these days. Horrible production, cookie cutter tracks that are the same week after week and overall just boring. You have to brightest talent in generations and we truly don’t even get to see his potential because we have Lamecross. A watered down version of what it used to be. Just boring 

Actually boooooooooring: these stupid, useless threads and their ridiculous polls that won't change a thing.

If you "hate to say it", then STFU.

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Motocross can’t be raced for nearly half the year in America so therefore supercross is awesome. The production could be better for sure but I personally enjoy being able to watch dirt bike racing nearly year round vs. just 3 months in the summer. Racing outdoors will always be the top tier in my opinion but that doesn’t mean that the SX that happens inbetween is lame. 

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I like them both, but prefer outdoors by a fair amount.  I also respect the fans of Supercross, like my wife.  She goes to all the races with me and prefers Supercross because she can see the whole race.

And yeah, I’ll pile on…. The SX tracks have sucked this year.  And the 9 whoop thing is pathetic.

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5/5/2024 2:36pm Edited Date/Time 5/5/2024 2:42pm
Zycki11 wrote:
I hate to say it but Lamecross is where we are these days. Horrible production, cookie cutter tracks that are the same week after week and...

I hate to say it but Lamecross is where we are these days. Horrible production, cookie cutter tracks that are the same week after week and overall just boring. You have to brightest talent in generations and we truly don’t even get to see his potential because we have Lamecross. A watered down version of what it used to be. Just boring 

RACING wrote:

Actually boooooooooring: these stupid, useless threads and their ridiculous polls that won't change a thing.

If you "hate to say it", then STFU.

Oh man you got me so good. I need to go cool off my god you are just amazing. Did you seriously think of that all on your own? Wow I’m just blown away, so many kudos to shower you with awesomeness. I just can’t believe you took the time to posted that amazing post. So well thought out and so well orchestrated. Just the best. I bet you downvoted it as well didn’t you? Oh man I bet you pressed it as quick as you could 😂

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Honestly I can't remember the last supercross I watched, lost all interest a good few years ago, can't put my finger on why, just boring.  Might be rose tinted glasses for myself but the 2 stroke days were phenomenal for SX.

These days it's pure Moto for me, mxgp & nationals.

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studworx wrote:

The tracks are ridiculous. Compared to a few years ago we probably use 30% less dirt.  

Shrinkflation tracks

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HERE IS WHAT NO ONE IS SAYING……

When WSX started to get a little traction it forced Feld and MX Sports in to talks and SMX was born. Now Feld is being forced to pay riders more and the bullshit stadiums we got this year are the result of it. 
 

Weege is employed by MX Sports AND Feld so he can’t really voice an opinion and try’s to promote these lame ass venues. Same for Jason Thomas.  Feld is cutting cost where it can due to the SMX payouts. The broadcast STILL acts like the people watching have never seen a dirt bike race before. This is all because everyone that works at Feld is completely clueless to our sport. They are just a business entity. That’s it. As a result, we got lame ass stadiums this year and it will happen again next year. 

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Cant just enjoy a great supercross season can we.  Yes, Great.  The outcome is all but wrapped but, its the last round.  Watching Jett come of age in SX has been nice to watch.  Get your ass kicked by Ando, close.  Have Webb do Webb things after halfway, yep. Both coasts on 250's have been good as well.

The tracks are good, IMO.  90's good? nope.  But, we cant have death defying triples and quads ( Albertyn anyone?) anymore.  Bikes can jump out of the stadium now, from 7'.

Broadcast teams.  Great?  eh, theres some good announcing for sure, and some absolute shite as well.

 

We cant have it all but, this year has been stellar.  Wait until Jett starts to make it like the RC years, or MC.  Those were snoozers to watch, even if you were a fan of the riders.  When Huffman came out in his bitchen green Kawi and took it to MC, that was so great. If Jett goes on a run like those two, youll be praying seasons like this year.

 

You all would complain about a free lunch because of some reason.  Quit your bitchen and enjoy the sport

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Regardless of the lack of dirt, why are the layouts so damn bad? 

90 degree corners, switchbacks, crappy whoops into turns onto the main straight.

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Zycki11
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Zacka 161 wrote:

Regardless of the lack of dirt, why are the layouts so damn bad? 

90 degree corners, switchbacks, crappy whoops into turns onto the main straight.

Careful, if you have criticism of the same boring tracks and aren’t just satisfied with them racing you will get downvoted and internet shouted 

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Zycki11 wrote:
I hate to say it but Lamecross is where we are these days. Horrible production, cookie cutter tracks that are the same week after week and...

I hate to say it but Lamecross is where we are these days. Horrible production, cookie cutter tracks that are the same week after week and overall just boring. You have to brightest talent in generations and we truly don’t even get to see his potential because we have Lamecross. A watered down version of what it used to be. Just boring 

RACING wrote:

Actually boooooooooring: these stupid, useless threads and their ridiculous polls that won't change a thing.

If you "hate to say it", then STFU.

Zycki11 wrote:
Oh man you got me so good. I need to go cool off my god you are just amazing. Did you seriously think of that all...

Oh man you got me so good. I need to go cool off my god you are just amazing. Did you seriously think of that all on your own? Wow I’m just blown away, so many kudos to shower you with awesomeness. I just can’t believe you took the time to posted that amazing post. So well thought out and so well orchestrated. Just the best. I bet you downvoted it as well didn’t you? Oh man I bet you pressed it as quick as you could 😂

Dude, listen to yourself. It’s fucking embarrassing.

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