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Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Brian has always been the same way.
Are you EMS? Not being a dick just curious. But how could walking off be more beneficial than a back board? I’m not even talking about only Forkner’s incident specifically but that seems like an odd claim.
i always thought immobilization was best 🤷♂️.
During the first heat I recall thinking how fast guys were going in that rhythm section, and how if there were any big get offs of the night, it’d probably be in that section of the track being that everyone was wheelying in to load up for the first triple. Lots of risk involved there and they had to do it to be competitive.
Removing sections that contain more than 9 whoops or dragon’s backs, have effectively made the tracks faster. We’ve just gotten lucky with no big crashes that led to big injuries like that the first few rounds.
Just goes to show that you can’t account for every variable and it’s a good reminder that regardless of what you do, the sport is still hella dangerous.
Not to stir the pot here, but if there was a dragon’s back at the beginning of that section, you know it would’ve slowed everyone down substantially. One of those damned if you do, damned if you don’t, sorts of things.
That was a gnarly, gnarly, gnarly crash. Sucks to see him go down again, hopefully he didn’t fracture anything and come back out in 4-5 weeks or motocross. We need guys like Forkner out there.
as far as landing on concrete, not much they can do about it, they have to maintain a gap between the track and wall for the equipment and Alpinestars crew to navigate the track quickly, just one of the parts of SX that makes it the toughest sport on earth. Maybe one day they can find something to help though.
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I more so get the impression that in his videos, he’s fairly relaxed, while at the races, he’s excited, which I can appreciate.
Nevertheless, he definitely comes poorly at times, really lacking empathy. He could’ve easily said something like “I’m bummed for Austin, but I’m so stoked on this win…” but he feels a need to poke the bear a little bit.
Not the right time to poke obviously, but I think they’re trying to make him Connor McGreggor like, but he’s just coming across like a cocky 18-year old.
Still gunna watch the next YouTube video tho 👀
Ho man, another one of these damn Stark posts.
RacerX report says "suspected shoulder injury" which is bad, but not as bad as it could have been landing on his back that way.
That was the worst hit I can recall seeing in many years. Hopefully it is not a serious injury and he can recover quickly.
At least he made it to round 2 this season
At this point the road is a straightaway at Lommel after a GP…
poor guy can’t catch a break
For those that do not want to scan 6 pages so far, here is the cliffs notes:
1. We still do not know the extent of his injuries.
2. The Asterik medical crew is a bunch of negligent morons.
3. We now are demanding foam pits surrounding the track for the 1 in 10000 scenario, but corporate greed is preventing it.
Keep scanning if you want an actual injury update.
I'm very skeptical of conventional doctors, but the medical crew had a lot more info than we do when they made their decisions on how to treat Forkner. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. I hope he's able to return to SX this season.
This sport and life in general, could do without assholes like you.
Serious question petef930, what do you get personally out of being a dick? Do you feel better about yourself? I don't understand this mentality.
"Both races this season"
That is the point he was making, two races and he is out with probably a broken neck. Knowing the point standing, he would've been more than fine with a second place.
Hate to say this, but Kitchen is more mature on the bike than Forkner, even if he is so much younger than AF. Downvote me as much as you want, but there is no way around this.
18yr old Deegan is catching major flack for his podium speech. Meanwhile grown men are saying much more heinous comments on here. Where does the desire come from to kick a guy when he down? And down hard
Deegan gave a good interview here.
The damned if you do, damned if you don't is not acceptable. People's lives are at stake, young uneducated people working for multi billion dollar international companies. There are absolutes that everyone knows that result in less injuries in motor sports, what is going on now smacks of exploitation. I don't know about anyone else, but as a fan of this sport for decades, I am fucking sick of it. Somebody needs to stick up for the riders.
Prayers to Forkner and his family! I hope he is ok.
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What are you guys trying to analise? He is just not a likeable person that's all, probably I'm not a likeable person too... really, I know many people like that, it can be his face his voice etc. it's simple as that. We don't need to justify why we hate this guy. Obviously nothing against his fans. But for me.. I hate that face.
If riders won’t even wear chest protectors, do you honestly believe you can talk them into wearing an inflatable plastic vest under their jersey?
4. And somehow Deegan was brought into the thread. Vital doesn't like Deegan
Things need to be done. Like mandatory safety equipment for riders, like mandatory safety requirements for the tracks, this shit is getting ridiculous. The powers that be and many fans quote the obvious, "this sport has always been dangerous". What a bunch of shit, any sport as it evolves should become safer as time goes on.
Dude is tough as nails and hope he recovers sooner than later.
Buddy sent me a screenshot of a text…broken transverse process on his I3 I4, broken scapula and bruised lungs. No surgery
If this is the case he is extremely lucky and I am happy that it is just bone related. Bones heal…. Hope he comes back with the same vigor and I think Ryno will help in this regard.
He is right. We are sick of fake kindness like we can read here. No one cares and not even forkner.
Stfu you are disgusting saying you are gutted for him and praying.
I did a little bit of Googling and from what I can find, ONE person, Jason Ciarletta, has died from injuries, during 50 years of Supercross. MotoGP/World Grand Prix has lost 31 riders during the same time period, with most of those being in the 70s and 80s and only a handful since then.
There IS mandatory safety equipment for riders and the track, and it's improving all the time. Top of mind:
- Whatever MIPS technology is in Forkner's helmet probably helped a lot last night.
- When Even Ferry hit the wall at Detroit, it was padded and not concrete or wood (which could break and impale).
- Most of the time when a rider lands body-first on a Tuff Block, they're better off than if they'd hit the ground.
- The Steve Matthes Memorial Nets have kept people from launching over corners.
There are some counterintuitive arguments to be made about safety as well:
- A more powerful bike has meant fewer riders are casing triples and are able to "throttle out" of more sketchy situations.
- Safety equipment allows a person to push the envelope of recklessness. Put these guys in sneakers and bicycle helmets and I bet the riding will change. Just like how if you take helmets out of the NFL you'll see a lot less head-to-head hits.
My point: Austin's massive wreck came from pushing the limits of his bike, his technique and the track. These guys had the option of landing in the flat and then jumping over the gap he was trying to downside. It would be slower, but that's the whole thing: in racing (motocross, motorcycles, cars, boats, downhill skis, etc.) skill is shown by being able to go fast without losing control. Most of us didn't get to this level because we can't navigate corners, ruts or fly through the air fast enough without crashing. This part of the sport will never go away, and it's not realistic to think every single thing can be padded and safe. It's a dangerous sport because Earth is harder than our bones and we tempt it with high speeds and gravity.
I didn't do well in anatomy, so for anyone else: L3 and L4 are your lumbar spine / lower back. L5 is the last one before your pelvis. The transverse process is an attachment point for muscles and ligaments that keep you stable and help you move.
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