Bring back little trucks!!!

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I'm actually thinking the opposite. I wish they would make midsize trucks with more rear legroom. I've been looking at trucks for a while. All the...

I'm actually thinking the opposite. I wish they would make midsize trucks with more rear legroom. I've been looking at trucks for a while. All the midsize trucks have little legroom for the rear passengers (I have a family of 3). The Honda Ridgeline is probably the best with its unibody, but still tight. Looks like I'll have to get a full size...

Ya'll gonna hate but I really want a Cybertruck. The price just needs to come down and the range increased. 

 

you need more than vehicle: 1 is the family hauler and another that is a no compromise truck. Not sure where the idea came from trucks should do everything in the same vehicle?

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I'm actually thinking the opposite. I wish they would make midsize trucks with more rear legroom. I've been looking at trucks for a while. All the...

I'm actually thinking the opposite. I wish they would make midsize trucks with more rear legroom. I've been looking at trucks for a while. All the midsize trucks have little legroom for the rear passengers (I have a family of 3). The Honda Ridgeline is probably the best with its unibody, but still tight. Looks like I'll have to get a full size...

Ya'll gonna hate but I really want a Cybertruck. The price just needs to come down and the range increased. 

 

RDnutz wrote:
you need more than vehicle: 1 is the family hauler and another that is a no compromise truck. Not sure where the idea came from trucks...

you need more than vehicle: 1 is the family hauler and another that is a no compromise truck. Not sure where the idea came from trucks should do everything in the same vehicle?

From people who want a vehicle with a bed that don't do heavy hauling. (And don't want to drive a giant lifted diesel with low profile tires as a daily driver)

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40caliber
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Picked up 2 of these in the last month

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2/24/2024 8:15am
40caliber wrote:
Picked up 2 of these in the last month

Picked up 2 of these in the last month

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2/24/2024 8:24am
need2ride wrote:
$45k sticker for one of those little mavericks is craziness to me and used tacomas have always been way overpriced imo.  I'll probably never sell my...

$45k sticker for one of those little mavericks is craziness to me and used tacomas have always been way overpriced imo.  I'll probably never sell my '07 tacoma 4 banger. Thing has 230k on it and still going. 

Yeah no $45k is BS. You can buy the top of the line loaded Ridgeline for that. Bigger and better truck.

Sandusky26 wrote:
You can buy an F150 for the same money and get similar gas mileage. Never understood the deal with the overpriced Tacoma. My extended cab F150...

You can buy an F150 for the same money and get similar gas mileage. Never understood the deal with the overpriced Tacoma. My extended cab F150 with the small Ecoboost averages 20 mpg and pulls my enclosed trailers.

A new F150? If so it's probably bare bones single cab. 

2/24/2024 8:28am

Yeah no $45k is BS. You can buy the top of the line loaded Ridgeline for that. Bigger and better truck.

RDnutz wrote:
Pretty sure your Ridgeline pricing info wrong. BTW, Ridgeline is nothing but a cutdown Honda van that is unibody and gets horrible mileage in their V6...

Pretty sure your Ridgeline pricing info wrong. BTW, Ridgeline is nothing but a cutdown Honda van that is unibody and gets horrible mileage in their V6. They get good reviews from mags because they drive like a car instead of a truck, not because they are a good truck.

Go check Hondas' website. The only thing the other mid-size trucks do better is offroading, payload, and towing. That's not what a lot of people buy a mid-size truck for. Just go read comparisons, it's no secret why the Ridgeline is ranked the best. 

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2/24/2024 8:28am
40caliber wrote:
Picked up 2 of these in the last month

Picked up 2 of these in the last month

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Why 2?😂

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2/24/2024 8:29am
need2ride wrote:
$45k sticker for one of those little mavericks is craziness to me and used tacomas have always been way overpriced imo.  I'll probably never sell my...

$45k sticker for one of those little mavericks is craziness to me and used tacomas have always been way overpriced imo.  I'll probably never sell my '07 tacoma 4 banger. Thing has 230k on it and still going. 

RDnutz wrote:
yeah that is BS! Looking at the Buyers order from my 2022 Maverick XL with Turbo, AWD, 4k Tow package and paid $25921.03 OTD November 2...

yeah that is BS! Looking at the Buyers order from my 2022 Maverick XL with Turbo, AWD, 4k Tow package and paid $25921.03 OTD November 2, 2022 for it. They've gone up a little each year since like all the others, but somebody lied to you about the $45k thing unless it was a fully loaded top of the line Lariat.

That's how much the loaded Lariat Maverick costs...

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2/24/2024 8:48am
RDnutz wrote:
yeah that is BS! Looking at the Buyers order from my 2022 Maverick XL with Turbo, AWD, 4k Tow package and paid $25921.03 OTD November 2...

yeah that is BS! Looking at the Buyers order from my 2022 Maverick XL with Turbo, AWD, 4k Tow package and paid $25921.03 OTD November 2, 2022 for it. They've gone up a little each year since like all the others, but somebody lied to you about the $45k thing unless it was a fully loaded top of the line Lariat.

Nobody lied to me, I was on the lot yesterday and saw for myself.  Not sure what trim package it was but net cost was $45,7 something.  This is so cal pricing so maybe that's it.  Sounds like you got a good deal on yours.

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2/24/2024 9:48am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2024 9:50am

I paid $27,625 for the gray one, $30,125 for the terrain version.

Both are AWD $2200 option and spray in bed liner $495 included in final cost.

Ecoboost, not into hybrid and still averaging around 30 mpg.

Saved 500 on each, farm bureau member.

 

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Top selling vehicles overall in Australia are the Ford ranger and Toyota hilux. We have only been getting imported rams and silverados for a few years...

Top selling vehicles overall in Australia are the Ford ranger and Toyota hilux. We have only been getting imported rams and silverados for a few years now. I was tempted to get a Silverado this year but drove one back to back with a new ranger and getting the ranger was an easy choice. Silverado looks cool, but uses more fuel, was hard to manoeuvre in a park, slow, less driver comfort. I am not sure why they are so popular over there…

Sandusky26 wrote:

If you shared the roads with pro125, you would pick the Silverado over the Ranger.

In Tyler tx I saw a Simi drive over a Silverado in town at 30mph, I don't think it would have been any different with a ranger...

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2/25/2024 6:26am Edited Date/Time 2/25/2024 6:45am

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My 23 Mav XL hybrid. Ordered directly from dealership and waited 9 months. 30k OTD. I would never pay a mark up on a new rig, especially a cheap truck. Of course the money saved on dealer mark up was used for wheels, tires and springs but I couldn't be happier with my little bike hauler. 

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sandman768 wrote:

The deal with Toyota is resale value…. Or it used to be…

And reliability. Its never been uncommon to see them go a couple hundred thousand miles without issues. 

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sandman768 wrote:

The deal with Toyota is resale value…. Or it used to be…

JayByrd wrote:

And reliability. Its never been uncommon to see them go a couple hundred thousand miles without issues. 

I still drive all three today. The 85, I bought for 450.00 , 18 years ago...

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mx_563 wrote:
Digging up an old thread... Have y'all seen the Toyota Hilux Champ? From what I gather, Thailand is the primary market for the time being. Base price...

Digging up an old thread...

Have y'all seen the Toyota Hilux Champ?

From what I gather, Thailand is the primary market for the time being. Base price estimated to be the equivalent of about $13,000

Thoughts? 

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I would buy that truck.

 

 

 

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2/29/2024 4:16pm Edited Date/Time 2/29/2024 4:16pm

It's disappointing these aren't still available new in Australia...

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It's disappointing these aren't still available new in Australia...

It's disappointing these aren't still available new in Australia...

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A mate of mine makes a bloody good living buying those types of things - well, mainly the Holdens -  and sending them off to Britain.

Seems they have become a sort of "Sports Car" option over there among some. 

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Couple pages later…

Still ain’t no Ford fucking ranger!! 

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Wish I held onto this truck. Never had problems. Two 450s in the bed, tailgate closed.

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This just happened, my 2000 Tundra work truck. Best truck I’ve ever owned. 
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Really hope this little truck makes it to production.

The Alpha Wolf:

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bayodome wrote:
Really hope this little truck makes it to production. The Alpha Wolf:

Really hope this little truck makes it to production.

The Alpha Wolf:

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Oh man that thing is beyond cool!  I've been watching that company for a while now hoping they would hold on and start producing vehicles, the retro styling of all of their concepts is exactly what I'd want to buy.  I don't know how I feel about owning an electric truck but theirs might put me over the edge. . .

3/5/2024 12:24am
It's disappointing these aren't still available new in Australia...

It's disappointing these aren't still available new in Australia...

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Bearuno wrote:
A mate of mine makes a bloody good living buying those types of things - well, mainly the Holdens -  and sending them off to Britain...

A mate of mine makes a bloody good living buying those types of things - well, mainly the Holdens -  and sending them off to Britain.

Seems they have become a sort of "Sports Car" option over there among some. 

The HSVs are highly sought over here. 

Not a pick up, but I had a Monaro as a daily driver for about 6 years. Still miss it.

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Alpha Wolf is certainly interesting. Even if you aren't into EV's, the fact that there are more truck options/styles on the horizon is exciting. I hope the new Hilux Champ will become available worldwide. 

My current setup. Downsized from a Sprinter. 

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Tyler D wrote:
someone buy this 300 hp dakar homologation special. 1 of 2,500 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-mitsubishi-pajero-evolution-12/ "But to me, the most surprising dynamic trait of these is their high-speed stability...

someone buy this 300 hp dakar homologation special. 1 of 2,500

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-mitsubishi-pajero-evolution-12/

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"But to me, the most surprising dynamic trait of these is their high-speed stability. Short wheelbase vehicles, especially high ones like Jeep Wranglers, 2 door Broncos and Land Rover Defender 90’s, really do not instill confidence at high speeds. As that air packs up under the chassis, the trucks begin to get light. Not stable. But these Pajero Evo’s are simply incredible at high speed. They were designed to do 100mph… OVER ANY TERRAIN." 

A friend of a friend had one of those, very cool. He raced CR's in Europe back in the day with a little Honda support, cool bloke.

All about little pickups though. I need to pull my finger out and start the engine swap / general de-lame-ing of my ghetto old ranger.

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bayodome wrote:
Really hope this little truck makes it to production. The Alpha Wolf:

Really hope this little truck makes it to production.

The Alpha Wolf:

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For the love of God, someone sell one of these with a 2.0 turbo instead of some Duracells.

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40caliber wrote:
Picked up 2 of these in the last month

Picked up 2 of these in the last month

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did you get the 4k towing package and hope you are ok I see handicap  sign? I sell Fords and the Maverick and Ranger are selling great. Not sure if bike would fit but saw this topper
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3/5/2024 6:23am
RDnutz wrote:
Toyota has exactly that model in the new lineup, can even get a manual trans. I went with Frontier King Cab that was already available with...

Toyota has exactly that model in the new lineup, can even get a manual trans. I went with Frontier King Cab that was already available with little to no waiting and IMO better value for my hard earned $ Also liked the powertrain better than any of the others. YMMV

It’s the size that’s a turn off for me. They’ve gotten significantly wider/taller over the years here in the States while the rest of the world...

It’s the size that’s a turn off for me. They’ve gotten significantly wider/taller over the years here in the States while the rest of the world stuck to a thinner more utilitarian design. Product of our environment though really given our landscape, roadways and overall lifestyles. I’ll run 90’s Toyotas unless they start importing their newer utes and utility vans. 
 

Here’s some comparison specs on size (I used the regular cab as the examples). Doesn’t seem like much but living in a city where I have to parallel park everyday, those numbers add up and circling up and down blocks looking for a big enough spot to park is miserable. 
 

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davis224 wrote:
This! I want a small, maneuverable vehicle that has a bed on it. The new Ranger is just as big as my old F-150. I just...

This! I want a small, maneuverable vehicle that has a bed on it. The new Ranger is just as big as my old F-150. I just want to get good mileage, haul a bike, and the occasional odd job.

At 62 with mangled hips,,, my old 97 Red Rocket Nissan is as high as I can get in the back of. I figure it probably has more miles left in it than I do. I'll stand pat.

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6/18/2024 9:32am

Just picked up a 2000 Ranger 6cyl ext. cab with 90k miles. There is some paint failing on the bed and some other little stuff going on but runs smooth. I had a small Ranger growing up and several S10's. Excited to be able to haul my bike without a trailer and if I get home late can just roll the truck into the garage and call it a night.

 

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